Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 27, Part 2

[Dr. Know?]

Interesting, Jodi is sounding like a "playa" for PPL. That's being nice and all I have to say on that subject.

j/k

 

[bettybaby00]

All I know for sure is Jodi Ann already had anal and oral with Travis by Nov 2006 (if she is telling the truth), and on Dec 2006, Abe's hand was inside her pants.

:floorlaugh:

 

[TartLemon]

Okay, I read the letter. Not being a handwriting analyst, I can still see the glaring story it's telling. Starts out large bold writing. She gets small and tries to hide behind the lies of the relationship. Jodi cannot hide her salivating during the climax of the fast, sloppy and flourished ninja passage. Then, she comes back down to the finale of the neat, small controlled 'poor widdle victim ME'.

 

[Kamille]

Interesting, Jodi is sounding like a "playa" for PPL. That's being nice and all I have to say on that subject.

j/k

Well only for the "executives" doncha know. So they can help her with "business and relationship advice".

 

[Ricki]

Iirc, JA boasted about how she matched him up with someone(Joy?)... yet I also seem to recall her indignation from somewhere(possibly her journals), that she had basically caught him "cheating"(even though he was already in the middle of a separation or divorce at the time). Perhaps JA was sidelining as an escort, that pays pretty well I hear.

I have rumors about that. Don't know if they are true.

 

[krkrjx]

Not sure what, but he was not nice to KCL....thats enough for me besides him being part of the defense team

Also, he has a real dislike for JM...

According to KCL, MK made some comments within earshot of the public/others in the courtroom, during breaks, about Travis. Seriously ugly, totally uncalled-for comments. I can't stand the man, not because of his reporting so much as his inability to interact with others in an acceptable manner and his not taking the time to ensure his brain is in working order before he speaks.

 

[Mystymiss]

But Abe claimed he previously met her at a high level event that he qualified for because of his sales quota.

My understanding was JA was attending a monthly PPL work shop and that's where she met Abe. Then she attended another one in Vegas where TA introduced himself to her. That's what I thought I read but of course I could be
confused! JMO

 

[ElleElle]

Maybe she did some "favors" for Gus, who is a six figure ring earner. I would imagine that putting him as high up in Legal Shield.

I always wondered what exactly went on in the trailer in Vegas.

 

[khaki]

I just re-watched Deanna's testimony from the first trial and one thing I had forgotten is that she was asked about her knowledge of Travis's childhood. It brought tears to my eyes to watch this part because the camera panned over to Travis's family and they were so choked up. It was utterly gut wrenching. But anyway, Deanna said she had knowledge of his childhood from what Travis shared with her and from what he wrote in his book, and it was really more neglect. Not physical abuse. She also mentioned that Travis had happy memories too, and that he was so proud that his dad was starting to turn himself around. Also, Deanna met Travis's mom. So emotional. Such a dear she is.

And you see, this doesn't fit with what ALV and team were trying to sell.

 

[cindymac]

Oh thank you! I kept thinking it was Travis that introduced her into PPL and the Mormon Faith. it sure is hard to keep it all straight with all the lies she told! WS is very good at getting to the bottom of the pile and finding the true story! thanks again

Oh my goodness... the lies. I can't count the number of times I've been trying to make sense of something and then realized (slap myself round the head) that I've been assuming that something Arias said is true.

A classic example is that I've always taken it for granted that Arias and Travis dated ("officially") for five months, and really hoped that Juan would ram the brevity of their relationship home in this penalty retrial.

But Juan's gone well above and beyond, and shown there's no reason to believe that they dated at all, let alone for five months. And I have to ask myself, why on earth did I ever think they did?!

There really is no end to her lies.

 

[ElleElle]

BBM

What does anything the defense is doing have to do with anything?

Right. But today ended with that question today (JW - DR), so it has me wondering what the DT is leading up to for tomorrow.

 

[Truth Detector]

How and when did she meet Gus? Anyone know?

He told Greta Van Susteren that he met JA at a PPL gathering and dinner in Arizona a little more than a year before she killed TA.

 

[KPinMN]

Ya, someone found you over in the You're so vain thread last night. I was gonna go drag you back over here but it looked like you were having fun and behaving so I left you alone

Stalker alert, lol

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I do have a relative who is an atty. in Arizona....handles civil cases....he can't answer most of my questions...:facepalm:

I want to know why.....Sherry allowed the killer to testify in secret. That was unconstitutional. COA and Supremes shut her down. So, the killer got a days worth of testimony, free from cross exam and now, the jury won't even be told what that was all about??

Will they be thinking everything she said must be true?

How is that fair to the taxpayers of Arizona?

The judge screws up so the defendant gets a free pass?? When a judge does something so egregious, there should be some remedy for it.

Besides waiting for the next time she's up for election! How many other trials will she influence with her incompetence before then?

:seeya:

BBM: I totally agree.

This is very, very concerning IMO because ya never know WHAT jurors are thinking.

Also, the only thing the public/media have regarding that super secret testimony of JA is the Transcript itself:

- There are NO tweets.

- There are NO reports as to what the jury was doing -- note taking, sleeping, whatever.

- There are NO reports as to what JA's "body language" was when she was "lying" on the stand -- because we know that that is what she was did was lie.

Something -- anything from the Tweeters/Observers in the courtroom would be helpful ... but we have NOTHING -- ZIP -- all because JSS was worried about "appeal issues" :gaah:

And because JSS made a HUGE mistake, IMO the jury should be told the TRUTH !

I know I know ... there are rules, procedures, etc.

It's not fair at all to the prosecution, and it is NOT fair to the Alexander Family. They deserve much better than this from the Court after everything this Court has put them through !

:moo:

 

[DexterMorgan]

The state should be ashamed for the sentencing process. If the jurors couldn't have agreed on death than it should have automatically been life without parole. I guess Juan and the judge have no other cases that need serious attention. Juan is probably stalling on other cases which leave defendants in limbo while he drains our money on this sentencing phase. Attn Juan and The Judge: We need you sending people to jail and not spend a year on one person sentencing phase. Even if she gets death then we will have to hear from her for the next 20 years. Just for some college kid (who will then be Governor) commute her sentence to life 20 years from now. Good grief.

 

[Brattinella]

Can anyone tell me how many days/nights (in total) TA and the murderess actually spent together?

 

[MeeBee]

It's becoming clearer to me now that Jodi has amplified this relationship in her mind even more than I thought before. I thought they did have a long distance thing and then broke up. I am so convinced now, especially after reading her letter and hearing Abe's testimony, that they were never official. It's all coming together now.

Jodi and Travis met, engaged in a flirtation, dated a little, but he seems to have definitively decided she wasn't the one. When she was in Cali she tried hard to get him to commit to her. He liked her but didn't want to take it further. She rationalized in her mind that the only reason he wouldn't committ to her and make her his girl was just to keep crazy Deanna happy. She was in a battle for his attention and devotion and was never worthy. She complained to the Hughes' to make him commit and they played along because they liked her before realizing they'd been had.

The goal was to make him get her to move there. Eventually he tells her it's never gonna happen so she just takes the initiative and moves there anyway, with great resistance from him. The rest of it was her finding ways to insinuate herself into his life, knowing she could always take advantage of his good nature. Can I keep my stuff in your garage? Can I use your car? Can I get some money? Can I get a ride? Oh, is this your bed? Where'd my clothes go? And it always felt like she was so close, so close to winning him. But it just wasn't going to happen.

She convinced herself that they were just on the DL, they were really together but had to keep it underground. But why would Travis do that? When he was with someone, he was with them. He made it known, they were together, he called her his girlfriend. Jodi never got this from him. I never saw any evidence that he held her in the same regard as Deanna or Lisa or Linda or any other girl. She was just another girl he got his rocks off with. And so she had to convince herself in her mind that it's just because she's more special. They were star crossed lovers. Never got the timing right. Travis did love her the most but there were people in his life that we're keeping him from her. So she had to drive a wedge between them. Still didn't work.

Travis should really have put up better boundaries because every time he slept with her it gave her a glimmer of hope. Her obsession with him was deep. All she wrote about, talked about, thought about, wanted was Travis. She had to make this go away because she was finding it impossible to move on. There was a journal entry that I believe encapsulates her need to kill Travis. It basically said there was something that needed to be cut off at its source, shut off like a light. This was Travis. She would only have freedom when he was gone. When Flores was grilling her, just before she changed her story to the ninjas, she's crying and seems close to confessing. "I had to move on."

What's happening now isn't so much hatred of Travis (though that's part of it) as it is a need to convince the world of what the truth of them was, of what she knows she and Travis were. She knew more about him than anyone. Was treated differently than anyone else. Meant more to him than anyone. Make her fantasy a reality in his death. She's done a darn good job too. And Travis isn't here to tell full truth of it and what she put him through.

 

[Kamille]

Right. But today ended with that question today (JW - DR), so it has me wondering what the DT is leading up to for tomorrow.

The DT is trying to discredit DR as a liar with what appears to be an answer she gave about whether she knew if TA had ever had sex, during a pre trial interview with the DT before the original trial, that was taken completely the wrong way or purposely manipulated with the transcript and perhaps used in the original trial to say that DR had lied in her interview about whether she knew if TA had ever had sex before JA and said something different on the stand by admitting that they had sex. I take it that there was a lot of confusion in that original trial about that question and answer and it was glossed over. So it looks like the DT are trying to strong arm Deanna once again with the testimony from the original trial, regarding the same question and answer, and this time she's not having any of it. She wants that issue clarified by forcing them to play the audio tape of the interview and to show how they may have manipulated an answer she gave to be in their favour. Because she claims that she never lied about whether she had sex with Travis. Fact is, it doesn't appear as thought the DT ever asked her that question direct in their original interview.

At least that's my take on it. I guess we shall see tomorrow how it plays out.

MOO

 

[Sulamith]

I just re-watched Deanna's testimony from the first trial and one thing I had forgotten is that she was asked about her knowledge of Travis's childhood. It brought tears to my eyes to watch this part because the camera panned over to Travis's family and they were so choked up. It was utterly gut wrenching. But anyway, Deanna said she had knowledge of his childhood from what Travis shared with her and from what he wrote in his book, and it was really more neglect. Not physical abuse. She also mentioned that Travis had happy memories too, and that he was so proud that his dad was starting to turn himself around. Also, Deanna met Travis's mom. So emotional. Such a dear she is.

And you see, this doesn't fit with what ALV and team were trying to sell.

BBM TA wrote on his blog that he did suffer from physical abuse inflicted on him by his mother.

" As she progressively got more involved in drugs she progressively got less capable of raising children. Most commonly was a beating for waking her up. It hurt but we got used to it. I learned how to turn so that when she hit me she would strike my back and arms, the pain was less there."

http://travisalexander.blogspot.com/

 

[Brattinella]

The state should be ashamed for the sentencing process. If the jurors couldn't have agreed on death than it should have automatically been life without parole. I guess Juan and the judge have no other cases that need serious attention. Juan is probably stalling on other cases which leave defendants in limbo while he drains our money on this sentencing phase. Attn Juan and The Judge: We need you sending people to jail and not spend a year on one person sentencing phase. Even if she gets death then we will have to hear from her for the next 20 years. Just for some college kid (who will then be Governor) commute her sentence to life 20 years from now. Good grief.

Wow I think you are in the wrong forum.