Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 27, Part 2

[Wing Ding]

Originally Posted by cindymac
Oh my goodness... the lies. I can't count the number of times I've been trying to make sense of something and then realized (slap myself round the head) that I've been assuming that something Arias said is true.

A classic example is that I've always taken it for granted that Arias and Travis dated ("officially") for five months, and really hoped that Juan would ram the brevity of their relationship home in this penalty retrial.

But Juan's gone well above and beyond, and shown there's no reason to believe that they dated at all, let alone for five months. And I have to ask myself, why on earth did I ever think they did?!

There really is no end to her lies.

Same here Cindy!!!!! Same here, exactly!

Does anyone remember what the start-up date was for this fake relationship of hers, and then when she called the fake relationship off because, oh dear, Travis had texts on his cell phone from other women, and was thereby cheating on her?

Were they both dates she could easily remember like someone's birthday or something like that?

I know she wrote that horrible letter to Travis' family on his birthday, but that's just because her mind is warped.

 

[whisperOFwings]

I have rumors about that. Don't know if they are true.

Google any known older phone #'s and "ADS" will pop up if she is doing that. ( don't ask LOL... )

Edit... because sometimes you need to **find people**, not because I would know about this particular business...whew, I felt the need to clarify LOL

 

[ParrotGal]

Just when I think I have reached some understanding of how deluded JA was (is), another layer of the onion-of-madness is peeled away!
Seriously, this is one loony gal. I just revisited her word-vomit blog. Those few entries (written with the same cluster-**** of garbled jawing
that comes out of her lie-hole when she speaks) were written in April & May of 2008. IMHO she was worked up into a pre-murder frenzy.
Her desperation to be noticed, admired and wanted by TA is puked out in these "deep thoughts". She wrote this hot-mess of junior high school faux-philosophy
for HIM to read. http://jodiarias.blogspot.com/
NOTHING about her thought process is normal.
I need to go wash my brain in hot soapy water and hit the hay. :gaah:

 

[ElleElle]

Well, hopefully if he does fly in, tomorrow can go longer into the evening to make up for the morning's loss. I'm more stunned at how cavalier the judge is with the jury's and witnesses time than I am about the DT's shenanigans. I find it beyond insulting.

I think it will be short and sweet. He will testify there was no on his computer, discrediting Witness #1 - MMg's affidavit.

 

[Kamille]

Oh yes, there would have to be a selfie!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/06/jodi-arias-boys-underwear-travis-alexander_n_2634221.html

After spending the first part of Wednesday describing her sex life in graphic detail for the jury in her murder trial, Jodi Arias detailed a package she received from the ex-boyfriend she is accused of killing that contained several gifts, including boys' underwear.

"There were a variety of things … there were some chocolates ... beneath that was a shirt ... pink shorts [and] boys' underwear," Arias testified during questioning by her attorney during her third day on the witness stand. "They were Spiderman underwear ... I was confused … They were still in the package."

Arias said she received the package in the mail from Travis Alexander on Valentine's Day 2007, more than a year before Alexander's slaying. The shirts and the pink shorts both had the text "Travis Alexander's" screen-printed on them, Arias said. She said there was a letter inside the box, but didn't get a chance to describe it before court ended for the day.

[video=youtu;ZP6Q11gIiPI]http://youtu.be/ZP6Q11gIiPI?t=2h52m10s[/video]
Advance to 2:52:10 to hear about the Valentine

NO WAY that someone who hung on to books and boxes of old kitchen crap and "art" like she did, and was OBSESSED with TA, would not hang on to every letter or card he ever sent or gave her. I can't recall anything like that ever making it into evidence.

MOO

 

[Val1]

All I know for sure is Jodi Ann already had anal and oral with Travis by Nov 2006 (if she is telling the truth), and on Dec 2006, Abe's hand was inside her pants.

And all the while JA was professing her "eternal" love for her beloved TA.... just wondering, which Christmas was it that she so conveniently fell asleep under the tree after being told there was no room for her to spend the night, 2006 or 2007? Didn't she go home for at least one of those holidays? Oh wait, wasn't she still in her house in 2006...

From: http://lindapariscrimeblog.com/?p=664 and originally from CNN transcripts iirc:
"Another woman, who wanted to only be know as, “Debbie,” said that her daughter “Ashley,” met Arias in October, 2006. Later in January, 2007, when Arias claimed that Brewer, “left her high and dry”…Ashley moved into Arias’s home, to help out with expenses. Ashley found it extremely troubling that Arias had a constant and steady stream of men in and out of her bedroom, at all hours. When these men would show up, Arias would order Ashley to her room, and tell her to shut the door. Ashley could clearly hear them, having sex. Arias would call these encounters “bible studies.” Ashley lasted all of three weeks, living with Arias but as many do, she found it difficult to extricate herself from Arias. Debbie had to step in and threaten Arias with a restraining order, in order to get Arias, to leave her daughter, alone. The same Arias that was trying to woo Alexander!! (Ashley met Alexander, as he visited, too) The same Arias, that wanted the world to know that, she wasn’t promiscuous!"

 

[ElleElle]

Well that picture was taken before the murder trip. So she had the shirt then. When and where did she claim that pic was taken?

I don't know. I will look!

She is blonde in this pic, so it was not taken post murder. :waitasec:

 

[Wagara]

The state should be ashamed for the sentencing process. If the jurors couldn't have agreed on death than it should have automatically been life without parole. I guess Juan and the judge have no other cases that need serious attention. Juan is probably stalling on other cases which leave defendants in limbo while he drains our money on this sentencing phase. Attn Juan and The Judge: We need you sending people to jail and not spend a year on one person sentencing phase. Even if she gets death then we will have to hear from her for the next 20 years. Just for some college kid (who will then be Governor) commute her sentence to life 20 years from now. Good grief.

I agree the state has plenty to be ashamed of in this case but it's not Juan or the pro table. I'd be more upset about the tactics of the defense team and the absolute mockery being made if a certain AZ courtroom...but that's just me.

 

[Renee110]

BBM You know what, Steely. That may have been a blessing in disguise. At first I was angry it was kept out. But later on, after pondering the day in full, I think it might be a good thing.

If AA had said that comment, which was pretty over the top, then the DT could basically say 'any proof' of that? It sounds like you are trying to make her look bad. And it might be seen as him sliming her. So it was maybe better if he took a more moderate approach, in which it didn't look like he was show boating or trashing her. ---just telling the facts about their date.

In the big picture, it does not really matter. they still got that she was stepping out with guys and talking with guys, even while the DT tried to slime TA for doing the same thing.

And he also got it in the jurors minds that he never committed to her at all in 2007, and AA kept telling her that TA was not into her. LOL I loved hearing that.

Kind of pours cold water on all of her talk about him begging her to marry him. LOL

Excellent points! Add to those that she obviously told TA something to inflame him and incite him into fighting Abe, because just a hug from a year ago wouldn't have don't that. She obviously lied about something. "He won't leave me alone". He wouldn't take no for an answer. Something along those lines...

 

[katydid23]

Well that picture was taken before the murder trip. So she had the shirt then. When and where did she claim that pic was taken?

Some of Travis's friends have said that the T-shirts were ones that he designed, that had an ad for his BLOG on the back of the tee.

So she may have used that tee shirt as the top and then made an iron on lettered pair of shorts.

 

[Kamille]

Or, if they'd actually worked within the jury framework to convince the others that LWOP was better than a hung jury... instead all we hear is how the foreman basically said it was his way or the hwy and then stuck his fingers in his ears and sat by the door.

And just as a refresher, the jury came back with a hung verdict 2 HOURS after they started deliberating. 2 HOURS!! JSS sent them back but it didn't do anyone any good. So someone must have made it clear within the first 2 hours that they were NOT budging on their stance, nor would they entertain any attempts to convince them with evidence. I believe it was either another 5 hours later or 5 hours in total that they came back in and JSS declared the mistrial.



MOO

 

[Wing Ding]

Regarding the "spideys"... here's a refresher course for those that didn't catch it on Vinnie's show on In Session during the main event two years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422327029&v=FV3-1TsnoIc&x-yt-cl=84838260

Is everything in Jodi's life taken from a book or movie?

 

[Val1]

Well that picture was taken before the murder trip. So she had the shirt then. When and where did she claim that pic was taken?

Iirc from previous posts, I'm pretty sure that was one of the ones TA had made up for his new business spinoff from his Being Better Blog, which apparently the back of the t-shirt read...

 

[Wagara]

The DT is trying to discredit DR as a liar with what appears to be an answer she gave about whether she knew if TA had ever had sex, during a pre trial interview with the DT before the original trial, that was taken completely the wrong way or purposely manipulated with the transcript and perhaps used in the original trial to say that DR had lied in her interview about whether she knew if TA had ever had sex before JA and said something different on the stand by admitting that they had sex. I take it that there was a lot of confusion in that original trial about that question and answer and it was glossed over. So it looks like the DT are trying to strong arm Deanna once again with the testimony from the original trial, regarding the same question and answer, and this time she's not having any of it. She wants that issue clarified by forcing them to play the audio tape of the interview and to show how they may have manipulated an answer she gave to be in their favour. Because she claims that she never lied about whether she had sex with Travis. Fact is, it doesn't appear as thought the DT ever asked her that question direct in their original interview.

At least that's my take on it. I guess we shall see tomorrow how it plays out.

MOO

I'm often wrong but it wiuldn't surprise me if it is dropped by the DT. I doubt they want the audio played and the abrupt end if court today may have been a put up or shutup by JSS.

 

[Val1]

Oh yes, there would have to be a selfie!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/06/jodi-arias-boys-underwear-travis-alexander_n_2634221.html

After spending the first part of Wednesday describing her sex life in graphic detail for the jury in her murder trial, Jodi Arias detailed a package she received from the ex-boyfriend she is accused of killing that contained several gifts, including boys' underwear.

"There were a variety of things … there were some chocolates ... beneath that was a shirt ... pink shorts [and] boys' underwear," Arias testified during questioning by her attorney during her third day on the witness stand. "They were Spiderman underwear ... I was confused … They were still in the package."

Arias said she received the package in the mail from Travis Alexander on Valentine's Day 2007, more than a year before Alexander's slaying. The shirts and the pink shorts both had the text "Travis Alexander's" screen-printed on them, Arias said. She said there was a letter inside the box, but didn't get a chance to describe it before court ended for the day.
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Ha! Maybe Sheriff Joe was already courting her too...

 

[Kamille]

I bet the story of this meeting is another of her lies. No doubt she came to the meeting intending to hook him. She had already got her hooks into how many upper echelon PPL guys? It would have been very easy for her to have heard about Travis and deliberately created the "casual encounter" which she claims TA initiated. He called her the day after the event......about Mormonism.

Nah...she was fishing all right but I don't think she had an intended target going in. At this point she already had Abe on the line but was looking to throw him back and catch a bigger fish. She obviously thought she'd found the prize winning catch when she learned more info about TA from her friends after meeting him and especially after he brought her to the banquet and into the executive area during the speeches. Although she did still keep Abe in the bucket for a while...just in case.

MOO

 

[TartLemon]

Not that it matters but yes, theY met in passing. In Vegas, outside the Rainforest Cafe, in the MGM. They were both there for a convention but they weren't set up to meet. He walked up to her (her story) and started talking. He later invited her to be his date at the big event.

Yup that's what she says alright, but wasn't there testimony in the first trial that Travis was needing a date for a dinner and someone set him up with Jodi?

 

[Val1]

Yeah, I think Abe was talking about when he was on his date with Jodi in December that she mentioned to him she was dabbling.

But it was news to me too that Jodi met Abe in Aug. She never talked about that convention that I know of. I've only heard her talk about carpooling with some friends to go in Sept as if it was her first time.

Did Jodi get the front row treatment at the Aug convention too???

That's how AA and JA got talking, she somehow was "magically" sitting just a couple chairs down from him on the "executive only" row, oh and noone was seated between them. It was a Super Saturday in Anaheim, late August 2006.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Is JA still guilty or are they doing the whole trial over again? I thought when it came to sentencing that the DT and the DA simply state mitgating factors on why the person should or should not die and then leave it for the jury to decide. But I didnt know that this process takes this long. So is this a retrial? Iam seriously asking because I stopped following her case after the guilty verdict was read.

 

[GigiG]

The state should be ashamed for the sentencing process. If the jurors couldn't have agreed on death than it should have automatically been life without parole. I guess Juan and the judge have no other cases that need serious attention. Juan is probably stalling on other cases which leave defendants in limbo while he drains our money on this sentencing phase. Attn Juan and The Judge: We need you sending people to jail and not spend a year on one person sentencing phase. Even if she gets death then we will have to hear from her for the next 20 years. Just for some college kid (who will then be Governor) commute her sentence to life 20 years from now. Good grief.

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Not sure how to respond to this tone deaf posting without sounding harsh. Justice isn't measured in dollars, it's meted out in sentences deemed appropriate according to the laws of the land. The laws in play here are the result of a finely honed system based on centuries of legislation and jurisprudence, both of which have evolved independent of one another. While far from perfect, the system as a whole works pretty well. The fact that an admitted killer has been afforded millions of dollars in defense of her heinous actions speaks directly to that point. Please don't blame Arizona for this debacle. If it weren't for the murderer's many lies and manipulation of the facts, this case would have been settled long ago.