Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 7

[Hatfield]

from the hearing

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They look official

I wish that stop watch clock would have been used on JA + ALV during the 1st trial.

 

[~Lyric~]

MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 2m2 minutes ago

We are about to hear decision on media appeal to stay in #JodiArias court for mystery witnesses -- Now there is more than one #abc15

 

[gerard11]

In agree. I don't think JSS will give her LWP but it's too bad there isn't a 4th option - LWOP and solitary except for a weekly shower. I'm afraid she'll get along just fine in prison.

I'm NOT OK with LWOP. I want the DP - not especially because I want her put to death (although she absolutely DOES meet the criteria) - she will never be put to death before the end of her natural life - but because I want her on Death Row, with all the limitations that comes with that. In LWOP - she's allowed to mingle in the prison population, with certain privileges. Psychopaths/sociopaths are able to adapt & thrive in any circumstance. That's what they DO. They adopt personalities according to their situation. Jodi will thrive in prison. She'll be a celebrity/pin-up. She'll MAKE it work for her. On Death Row - she'll be shut down. Nobody to manipulate. Nothing to control. NO sense of empowerment whatsoever. And she'll languish & die there. THAT'S what I want.

 

[MeeBee]

The more important question is..did the jury forget?

Exactly. Not too crazy if we don't have it ingrained in our minds when we couldn't even see it. The case would have been moving along anyway, moving further away from the VISs having happened. But who cares about us? It's not about is and what we forgot. That this was a successful tactic to put them out of people's minds...don't buy it. They could have done that by simply presenting their case.

 

[Hope4More]

I think Juan just wants to get on with his job - of getting justice for Travis - and doesn't care whether the media are there or not. He just wants to get things done. Fair enough. I absolutely agree with that. (And it also proves the idiots wrong who were calling him a 'rock star' in search of the limelight).

HOWEVER - I think this is an important appeal for the media to win. There needs to be open court & open justice - otherwise it's a long but deceptively slippery road to danger.

Sure. But no stay isn't a loss. The heart of the matter would still be before the AC.

A de-escalation of all the drama is what's in order, IMO. Time for the show to end.

 

[SweetT]

Or how one responds. That's exactly it. Coming into this case so long ago, I could never reconcile why Jodi would go back...of course, why does anyone? That, we know, is a very complex answer - but never have I met an abuse victim with Jodi's particular set of circumstances to have gone back. Never have I met a victim who stalked her abuser and slashed his tires (dear fate - can you just imagine the wrath harming an abuser's possessions creates!?!) or threaten a prospective girlfriend or cyberstalk or any of the other coercive, manipulative, and controlling things she did to 'keep' Travis.

But I've known abusers aplenty to pull those kind of antics.

For a "victim", Jodi had it made. She had an abuser apparently willing to allow her to date others and relocate to another state; he wasn't even calling her hundreds of times a day, cyber-stalking her, or downloading images of her house via google earth. She was relatively independent; had the support of her family; didn't have children or a mortgage to be concerned over; wasn't controlled financially; had access to a vehicle and was employed. She had what so damn many victims only wish they did - the power and means to leave and stay gone.

JMO and FWIW

SO TRUE! I have been a victim myself and I can tell you doing something to my abusers personal items well,..the fear of what would have happened to me I cannot explain. So slashing tires, not an option..for you know whatever you can do, they can and will do back even worse. All the other things you are point on about also. If your abused..your afraid, your happy to not go back, ever! If your lucky enough to get that option. I see no abuse toward Jodi, only toward Travis. How an expert cannot see that is just beyond words.

 

[Nali87]

Kirk Nurmi spoke well. But his argument is just weak.

 

[Madeleine74]

In agree. I don't think JSS will give her LWP but it's too bad there isn't a 4th option - LWOP and solitary except for a weekly shower. I'm afraid she'll get along just fine in prison.

That's really none of the public's concern and, IMO, the public really needs to get over worrying how Arias will feel or react or adjust to her surroundings in state prison.

The judge doesn't dictate how prisons are run and that is not their perview. Once Arias is sentenced and at Perryville, it's not up to the judge where she spends her time or how she spends her time.

As far as the public is concerned, their only consideration should be if they (the public) are safe. And yes they are with Arias in prison for the rest of her (and many other people's) lives. This constant need for revenge and torture is not the definition of justice. Justice is making sure this killer will never be able to prey on the public again. And that is assured and it's forever.

 

[gerard11]

Sure. But no stay isn't a loss. The heart of the matter would still be before the AC.

A de-escalation of all the drama is what's in order, IMO. Time for the show to end.

And a "show" is exactly what it is. Conducted by Puppetmaster Jodi Arias. Time to cut her strings....

 

[MeeBee]

Kirk Nurmi spoke well. But his argument is just weak.

I thought he spoke well, too.

 

[mydirtysecret]

Kirk Nurmi spoke well. But his argument is just weak.

It is funny because even KN had a difficult time talking in the 10 minutes without exposing too much information that has been or is currently sealed. So, his argument was confusing and appeared all over the place.

 

[Dmacky]

How Ironic that Nurmi is trying to keep this the trial away from the public.
He couldn't even keep the PUBLIC away from his murderer/client after the last trial. She hunted the news people down, demanding makeup to do interviews!

I wouldn't even know who JA was if I hadn't seen her on 48 hours Mystery right after she was arrested! :gaah:

 

[Madeleine74]

As a point of comparison. How many posters actually think about and worry how Scott Peterson spends his time in San Quentin? He's in there for life, he's finishing his 12th year on death row, he will never be executed. He socializes with a compatible group of DR inmates, he's out of his cell for many hours each day. Do you give him any thought at all? Lacey's family sure doesn't.

I'm for the DP, btw, but it's really more like LWOP.

Once Arias is put away forever that will be the end of her and all this focus on her.

 

[gerard11]

I thought he spoke well, too.

He SPOKE well, but... did he actually have any cold hard legal facts to back up his argument? I'm no lawyer, but it seemed like he didn't. Just a lot of well-spoken words meaning absolutely nothing... :thinking:

 

[dog.gone.cute]

MaryEllen Resendez @maryellenabc15 · 11m 11 minutes ago

We are about to hear decision on media appeal to stay in #JodiArias court for mystery witnesses --

Now there is more than one #abc15


BBM: Does anyone know what the "more than one" means ?

TIA !

 

[MeeBee]

He SPOKE well, but... did he actually have any cold hard legal facts to back up his argument? I'm no lawyer, but if seemed like he didn't. Just a lot of well-spoken words meaning absolutely nothing... :thinking:

Bodney was far more eloquent.

 

[grammieto5]

The public did? How do you know? I sure didn't.

Neither have I, and as long as the jury remembers, that's what counts. I have faith in this jury, they won't forget who the true victim is.

 

[MeeBee]

MaryEllen Resendez @maryellenabc15 · 11m 11 minutes ago

We are about to hear decision on media appeal to stay in #JodiArias court for mystery witnesses --

Now there is more than one #abc15


BBM: Does anyone know what the "more than one" means ?

TIA !

More than one secret witness.

 

[mydirtysecret]

MaryEllen Resendez @maryellenabc15 · 11m 11 minutes ago

We are about to hear decision on media appeal to stay in #JodiArias court for mystery witnesses --

Now there is more than one #abc15


BBM: Does anyone know what the "more than one" means ?

TIA !

I am wondering the same thing, more than one witness? Who knows, because it was sealed LOL

 

[gerard11]

Bodney was far more eloquent.

Oh definitely. But for Nurmi, he spoke well....