*REVISIT* Does Anyone Feel Sad for Casey? Or Family Members?

[GreenEyes727]

David,

I joined WS because of my obsession with the Laci Peterson case. I never left because WS is an awesome place, with awesome people and it's just not for crime and you will find compassion here. I don't know how much compassion you will find here for KC. I, myself, am not even close to being sure that KC murdered Caylee or covered up an accident that happened to Caylee while Caylee was with her. If Caylee is gone, I think someone else did it and KC was warned not to tell anyone by someone powerful in the crime world or at least someone evil in some capacity. If Caylee is still here, I still think that KC was warned not to say anything, especially in light of the jailhouse visit by PB and my feeling that he warned her not to talk. But then there is the backing up of the car to the Anthony garage and the borrowing of the shovel that makes her look as if she put Caylee's body in the trunk of her car but maybe she used the shovel to break the lock on the door of the shed to steal the gas cans but I don't think that works with the timeline.

You feel that something bad happened to her, as others do here. Have you read RG's theory on that? Supposedly, he will be telling what he knows about that in the future and does insinuate that KC was sexually abused. Susan Smith comes up often here. She was sexually abused by her stepfather, well into her adult years, including when she was married. I have always felt compassion for Susan Smith. I have her mother's book about her. If her mother can have compassion for her after she admittedly drowned her 2 little boys, then I can too. But her mother is nothing like CA. It seems that CA plays a big part in KC's problems. I think that GA knows that. I am not even sure that CA will stay with GA now. LA seems to have disappeared. Why? Is he guilty or is he ashamed?

There are so many questions in this case. I hope we get more answers now that the game is over, for the most part. Caylee deserves to be found.

Oh, and welcome to WS!

I am quoting my own quote from the first page of this thread. I just couldn't wrap my head around the part of this story that was of a 22 year old mother who chose, out of spite, to kill her baby girl and proceed to act like nothing happened around everyone. It had to be an act. There had to be more to this. What did she really do for a job? Was this connected? Did she owe someone money and they were holding Caylee for ransom? About the death ring around the hair that belonged to Caylee, surely there was that very slight possibility that the test was wrong. About the decomposing body in the car, maybe it was that of NG or another murder victim, part of the world that KC was involved in at the time and more reason for her to clam up. And then came December 11th and then came the word that the remains of the small child found very near the Anthony home were Caylee's.

So now I'm trying to wrap my head around this 22 year old mother who now resides in a jail cell, awaiting trial for the murder of her daughter, who appears in Court looking as if she were trying to beat a traffic ticket, smiling despite the news that her baby is dead and her father was very close to suicide, for all the world to see. Does she think she's getting over on everyone? What does she think about 24/7 in that jail cell? Is she so delusional that she thinks she will be out shopping at Target in the very near future for a new outfit to wear to Fusion Lounge? Or is she just so sure that she will get away with the perfect murder and spend the rest of her life laughing at the world?

The truth: In the end, we can feel sorry for KC as we are human but I really, truly think that if I had enough money to bond her out and brought her home for creature comforts until trial, supported her to no end, she would stab me in the back at a moment's notice and would never look back. That's KC. She's not what she looks like. It is very hard for me to accept this - that evil walks among us every day but it is true.

I don't know if there really is some dark secret that makes this family band together as they do, or if KC is really the way she is because of her mother, or whatever . . . but Good God, can she show us that she's at least a little bit human? If that tape of her finding out about the remains would show her being human, wouldn't she want that to be released to the entire world?

I do feel sorry for the KC who could have been and the Caylee who would be 3 now, no Timer55 about it.

Am I making sense? Have a good day all!

 

[cloud]

I am quoting my own quote from the first page of this thread. I just couldn't wrap my head around the part of this story that was of a 22 year old mother who chose, out of spite, to kill her baby girl and proceed to act like nothing happened around everyone. It had to be an act. There had to be more to this. What did she really do for a job? Was this connected? Did she owe someone money and they were holding Caylee for ransom? About the death ring around the hair that belonged to Caylee, surely there was that very slight possibility that the test was wrong. About the decomposing body in the car, maybe it was that of NG or another murder victim, part of the world that KC was involved in at the time and more reason for her to clam up. And then came December 11th and then came the word that the remains of the small child found very near the Anthony home were Caylee's.

So now I'm trying to wrap my head around this 22 year old mother who now resides in a jail cell, awaiting trial for the murder of her daughter, who appears in Court looking as if she were trying to beat a traffic ticket, smiling despite the news that her baby is dead and her father was very close to suicide, for all the world to see. Does she think she's getting over on everyone? What does she think about 24/7 in that jail cell? Is she so delusional that she thinks she will be out shopping at Target in the very near future for a new outfit to wear to Fusion Lounge? Or is she just so sure that she will get away with the perfect murder and spend the rest of her life laughing at the world?

The truth: In the end, we can feel sorry for KC as we are human but I really, truly think that if I had enough money to bond her out and brought her home for creature comforts until trial, supported her to no end, she would stab me in the back at a moment's notice and would never look back. That's KC. She's not what she looks like. It is very hard for me to accept this - that evil walks among us every day but it is true.

I don't know if there really is some dark secret that makes this family band together as they do, or if KC is really the way she is because of her mother, or whatever . . . but Good God, can she show us that she's at least a little bit human? If that tape of her finding out about the remains would show her being human, wouldn't she want that to be released to the entire world?

I do feel sorry for the KC who could have been and the Caylee who would be 3 now, no Timer55 about it.

Am I making sense? Have a good day all!

Perfectly, IMO.

I don't really care if they never show the tape about her reaction to daughter's remains being finally found in her very near neighbourhood.

Her initial reaction, or lack thereof, to her child being "kidnapped" said it all.

MO

 

[grammieto5]

I have decided to write to KC. I find her very fascinating. I've come to realize since Caylee has been laid to rest I look at this case differently. There is a part of me that feels she will not answer. I wonder if she will even get the letter. Well time will tell.

 

[dunlurken]

NO, I don't feel sorry for Casey. I feel sorry for Caylee.

 

[elle1919]

Not one meazly iota. No I do not feel sorry for this woman and if by chance I ever do begin to feel the least bit sorry, I will envision a little skull void of flesh, duct taped at the mouth, laying for months, 15 houses away from the only home she ever knew, a tragic vision....but I will remember this to honor the memory of a little girl that I came to love more than her own mother did.

 

[Paintr]

No, I do not feel sorry for KC...nor Cindy...nor George....nor Lee, since they began their cover up.

I feel very sorry for Caylee for so many reasons and for the LE people who have had to grope their way through this fog of murder and deceit.

 

[chi-mama]

Sad for Casey? No. A general sadness on the whole situation? Yes.

 

[okiedokietoo]

http://www.oregoncounseling.org/Handouts/PsychopathicPersonality.htm
(quoted from article)
*adult psychopaths do not benefit from traditional counseling therapy and may in fact offend again and sooner because of it
The following is a list of items based on the research of Robert Hare, Ph.D. which is derived from the "The Hare Psychopathy Checklist-Revised, .1991, Toronto: Multi-Health Systems." These are the most highly researched and recognized characteristics of psychopathic personality and behavior.

glibness/superficial charm -grandiose sense of self worth
need for stimulation/prone to boredom pathological lying
conning/manipulative - lack of remorse or guilt
shallow emotional response - callous/lack of empathy
parasitic lifestyle -poor behavioral controls
promiscuous sexual behavior - early behavioral problems
lack of realistic long term goals - impulsivity
irresponsibility - failure to accept responsibility for their own actions
many short term relationships - juvenile delinquency
revocation of conditional release - criminal versatility

 

[scrabble]

I have decided to write to KC. I find her very fascinating. I've come to realize since Caylee has been laid to rest I look at this case differently. There is a part of me that feels she will not answer. I wonder if she will even get the letter. Well time will tell.

I think Casey will get your letter however I doubt that you will receive a reply. I went to church this morning and the priest talked about we need to open our hearts and forgive others in order for God to forgive us, and I am trying to adopt this into my thinking regarding this case. Out of the whole family, my heart goes out to George and if I were to write to anyone, I believe it would be to him. He is a good speaker and I would like to see him help others who have gone thru what he has experienced, for instance, like on the order of what John Walsh does. Personally, and I am no expert by any means, but I think that Caylee's death was accidental and then the Mom didn't know what to do.

 

[samiam2]

I’m so glad that someone started this thread...I, too, have become so drawn to this case. Ok, I really mean – addicted....

I don’t know what it is that I feel for Casey. I hate to admit that I do feel sorry for her at times and I hate that I feel that way. Hopefully, I just feel sorry for what could have been. I thought, at first, that it must have been an accident. It had to have been. But, then the document dumps came out and so much more information and I truly believe she killed that precious child.

So why don’t I feel a total disgust for her. I’m not sure. I am a mother of 3 children. I have a daughter who just turned 4. I had my first child when I was barely 18. It was hard but I definitely grew up. I did some things that I wasn’t too proud of in my younger days - took my son to a few parties that I probably shouldn’t have. I’ve had to “borrow” some of my kids’ money sometimes when we needed something and I didn’t have the money. I lied about working (on a rare occasion because I REALLY DID HAVE A JOB) to get a babysitter because I wanted to go out. My kids have been such pains in the neck before crying and screaming and not stopping that I would get so aggravated and would just want to shut them up. I sometimes wondered – how different my life would have been had I not had kids. The freedom to come and go and I pleased. No responsibility. But then the feeling passed and God knows if anything ever happened to one of them I would surely die.

I think – she had to have loved Caylee – right? Whether she wanted to give her up for adoption or not. Whether Cindy made her keep the baby or not. She eventually loved her didn’t she? I mean, I see the pictures that she’s taken of Caylee. I see Casey smiling in the pictures. She loved her, didn’t she? I mean Casey lies BUT she’s not a GOOD liar. She didn’t fake being happy in those pictures did she?

Then, of course, I think of that precious child in Casey’s trunk. She drove around with that baby in the trunk!! She actually wrapped duct tape around her mouth. She actually triple bagged that baby and dropped her off in the woods. All the while, she partied it up. She slept. She ate. Life went on. I woke up several nights thinking about Caylee rotting in her trunk and she’s not even my daughter.

I think the whole situation just makes me sad.

 

[Gray's Mom]

I do not feel sorry for her at all.

 

[laura08]

I don't feel sorry for Casey not at all. I feel sorry for Caylee, I also feel sorry for Zenaida the lady was working a real job trying to support her family and feed and clothe her kids, and lost her job because of Casey throwing her name in something she was never involved in. Rip sweet Caylee!

 

[debbie0604]

When I look at the photos (all 1 million of them) of Casey, I see a very pretty girl. She has beautiful hair, no matter how it is styled or cut. She certainly knows how to apply make-up.
I do not feel sorry for her. But I do think it's a shame she is in this situation. I'm sure there was something worthwhile to work with to guide her into a responsible and capable person with a career.

I agree with part of this. I don't think she is that pretty, because inner beauty has to mix with outer beauty IMO. Even not considering what happened to Caylee - if that had not happened, just knowing her personality as she is - who she is inside is not pretty and that shines more so that her outer features IMO. It is a shame that she has created this situation and she took her precious daughter and hurt so many people. Caylee touched so many lives and would have continued to enriched so many more. Casey on the other hand is poison. I do not feel sorry for Casey.

But, I lay most of the blame for her behavior at the feet of Cindy. I think they had a relationship of jealousy and confusion since Casey was a child.
I think she learned how to lie and cover up from her mother.

I doubt Casey ever bonded with CAylee as her mother. She lived with a woman who took over the mother role of Caylee but kept insisting Casey act as the mom. I think Casey continued to receive mixed messages as to what she was supposed to do. AS long as she lived at home, she was under Cindy controll. I hate to place all of the blame at the parents feet. I will say that their ways of dealing and talking with KC is definitely not the way that I would be handling it. They definitely seem to be placating her and walking on eggshells around her and it seems that that is the way that they are used to dealing with her. But for me, I reserve judgement in laying blame on parents particularly since KC is a grown woman who definitely knows right from wrong now. She definitely knows that what she has done is wrong and she should be able and willing to take responsibility for it. I agree that CA lies, as the LE testimony with YM proves it. KC is a big girl now. If she didn't want Caylee, she should have said that to CA and left. She's a big girl now, she should face the music with this IMO. /quote]

Bolded by me.

 

[Nana46]

Not even for one second.

IMO

 

[krimekat]

I don't feel sad for Casey . . .

 

[abbra]

Casey Anthony has Free Will. She made bad choices in her life, her own choices. Caylee Anthony was a little baby girl with no conception of evil. All evidence points to Casey, Caylees mother as being the killer of her daughter. " the trunks smells like a dead body" . Free Will!

Only a monster would murder their own child even if it was an accident- I can't shed tears or feel sorry for Casey Anthony. Casey Anthony USED and still uses her Free Will in everything she does.

 

[cheko1]

Absolutely positively not a ounce of sadness.......

She could of put her up for adoption or given custody to her parents. She instead was a cruel cold callous killer!

 

[Blooming Rose]

I feel sad for little Caylee who had duct tape wound tightly around her little head and across her mouth with scalp hair sticking to it and was then dumped in the woods in a garbage bag after she died...that's who I feel sad for...

 

[tiredofthis]

I feel sad for little Caylee who had duct tape wound tightly around her little head and across her mouth with scalp hair sticking to it and was then dumped in the woods in a garbage bag after she died...that's who I feel sad for...

ITA!! I feel sorry that Caylee will never grow up. She was never given the chance and her killer still has her life.

I do not now, nor will I feel one ounce of sadness for Casey.

 

[DiDi]

Now this one I can answer without a doubt. No, I do not feel sorry for Casey.