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RI RI - Linda Carman, 54, Point Judith, 18 Sept 2016 *SON ARRESTED, dies before trial*
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And Nathan strikes me as a singular being- that is devoid of relationships except as they serve his needs and wants. I suspect his mother and grandfather had outlived their usefulness to him ALIVE and so he relegated them to death where they could continue (by means of inheritance) to meet his needs.
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Martin Manilla, Nathan Carman's attorney, tells me he is in shock over this news. He found out Carman died through court filings. He says he is currently trying to figure out what happened
Nathan Carman was being held at the Cheshire County House of Corrections in Keene. Supt. Doug Iosue confirms Carman was found dead in his cell this a.m. He was the sole occupant. Manner/cause of death will be determined by the medical examiner.
Martin Manilla, Nathan Carman's attorney, tells me he is in shock over this news. He found out Carman died through court filings. He says he is currently trying to figure out what happened
Nathan Carman was being held at the Cheshire County House of Corrections in Keene. Supt. Doug Iosue confirms Carman was found dead in his cell this a.m. He was the sole occupant. Manner/cause of death will be determined by the medical examiner.
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Nathan Carman, charged with killing mother at sea, dies in jail
Nathan Carman, who was set to go on trial this fall after being charged with killing his mother at sea during a 2016 fishing trip off the coast of Rhode Island, died in jail, prosecutors said.
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BURLINGTON, Vt. – Nathan Carman, who was set to go on trial this fall after being charged with killing his mother at sea during a 2016 fishing trip off the coast of Rhode Island, died in jail, prosecutors said Thursday.
Charges against Carman have been dismissed, prosecutors said, after U.S. Marshals reported that he died "on or about" Thursday. The cause of death is not known yet.
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awwww, los started this thread....
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Nathan Carman, charged with killing mother at sea, dies in jail
Nathan Carman, who was set to go on trial this fall after being charged with killing his mother at sea during a 2016 fishing trip off the coast of Rhode Island, died in jail, prosecutors said.
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just had to bring this article forward.... What a family story.
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A Son Took His Mother Out Fishing. She Never Came Back.
When rescuers found Nathan Carman after seven days at sea, his mother had vanished without a trace. But his past was about to resurface.
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It's truly sad but a story as old as time: the betrayal of a son/grandson for the love of money (is the root of all evil...).just had to bring this article forward.... What a family story.
A Son Took His Mother Out Fishing. She Never Came Back.
When rescuers found Nathan Carman after seven days at sea, his mother had vanished without a trace. But his past was about to resurface.
Wowza! Didn't see this coming!
Federal authorities say the man charged with killing his mother at sea during a 2016 fishing trip off the coast of New England has died.
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The Vermont man charged with killing his mother off the coast of New England in a scheme to inherit millions of dollars has died awaiting trial, federal authorities said Thursday.
Nathan Carman, 29, pleaded not guilty last year to fraud and first-degree murder in the death of his mother, Linda Carman, and was scheduled to go on trial in October.
An eight-count indictment also says Carman shot and killed his wealthy grandfather John Chakalos as he slept in 2013, in order to obtain money and property from his grandfather’s estate. But the indictment does not charge Carman with his grandfather’s killing, and he had consistently denied any involvement in the two deaths.
The cause of Carman’s death was not immediately clear.
Federal authorities say the man charged with killing his mother at sea during a 2016 fishing trip off the coast of New England has died.
A Vermont man charged with killing his mother at sea over his inheritance dies awaiting trial
The Vermont man charged with killing his mother off the coast of New England in a scheme to inherit millions of dollars has died awaiting trial, federal authorities said Thursday. Nathan Carman, 29, pleaded not guilty last year to fraud and first-degree murder in the death of his mother, Linda...
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The Vermont man charged with killing his mother off the coast of New England in a scheme to inherit millions of dollars has died awaiting trial, federal authorities said Thursday.
Nathan Carman, 29, pleaded not guilty last year to fraud and first-degree murder in the death of his mother, Linda Carman, and was scheduled to go on trial in October.
An eight-count indictment also says Carman shot and killed his wealthy grandfather John Chakalos as he slept in 2013, in order to obtain money and property from his grandfather’s estate. But the indictment does not charge Carman with his grandfather’s killing, and he had consistently denied any involvement in the two deaths.
The cause of Carman’s death was not immediately clear.
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From this, it’s either natural causes or suicide. Nathan Carman's death not considered suspicious, coroner's report says
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From that article, I noticed this: "In a media availability on Thursday afternoon, Carman's attorneys said that he left a note for them that they have not yet had a chance to read."
Also this: "Carman’s attorneys said they spoke with him as recently as Wednesday evening and he did not seem distressed or acting out of character."
To me, it sounds like he committed suicide.
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With this extraordinary story...
I so hope the note he left will provide some closure.
He "left a note that they have not had a chance to read". Yeah, right
I so hope the note he left will provide some closure.
He "left a note that they have not had a chance to read". Yeah, right
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Ok, that settles it then. Almost certainly suicide. Thanks
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Honestly, it might have been kept from him if it's true that he didn't even hear from this until court releases, like he claims.
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Appears to be true - he learned through the court filing.
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This is also interesting. NC was a defendant in Federal Court so he was not being held in the County Jail but at Cheshire County Dept. of Corrections which appears to appeal to the Feds (i.e., 42 U.S.C. Chapter 21- Civil Rights). And if suicide, they will hate this occurred under their watch. Otherwise, he definitely had a better than most defendants awaiting trial!
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District of Vermont (Rutland)
CRIMINAL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 5:22-cr-00049-gwc-1
Case title: USA v. Carman | Date Filed: 05/02/2022 Date Terminated: 06/15/2023 |
| Assigned to: Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford | ||
Defendant (1) | ||
| Nathan Carman TERMINATED: 06/15/2023 also known as Nathan James Carman TERMINATED: 06/15/2023 | represented by | FPD Office of the Federal Public Defender District of Vermont 95 Pine Street, Suite 150 Burlington, VT 05401 (802) 862-6990 Email: [email protected] TERMINATED: 05/12/2022 ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED Designation: Public Defender or Community Defender Appointment |
| Terminated Counts | Disposition | |
| 18:1341.F FRAUDS AND SWINDLES - knowingly caused documents to be delivered by U.S. mail or commercial interstate carrier for the purpose of executing a scheme to defraud and obtain money (1-3) | Dismissed by gov't | |
| 18:1343.F FRAUD BY WIRE, RADIO, OR TELEVISION - transmitted by email documents for the purpose of executing a scheme to defraud and obtain money (4-6) | Dismissed by gov't | |
| 18:1111.F MURDER, FIRST DEGREE - unlawfully killed L.C. willfully, deliberately, maliciously and with premeditation (7) | Dismissed by gov't | |
| 18:1343.F FRAUD BY WIRE, RADIO, OR TELEVISION - devised a scheme to defraud and to obtain money from Boat U.S. and the National Liability and Fire Insurance Co. by means of an email that attached his narrative about the sinking of the Chicken Pox (8) | Dismissed by gov't |
| Date Filed | # | Docket Text |
|---|---|---|
| 05/02/2022 | 1 | INDICTMENT as to Nathan Carman (1) count(s) 1-3, 4-6, 7, 8. (esm) (Entered: 05/02/2022) |
| 05/02/2022 | 2 | MOTION to Seal 1 Indictment and Arrest Warrant by USA as to Nathan Carman. (esm) (Entered: 05/02/2022) |
| 05/02/2022 | 3 | ORDER granting 2 Motion to Seal 1 Indictment and Arrest Warrant as to Nathan Carman (1). Sealed until the arrest of the defendant. Signed by Judge Kevin J. Doyle on 5/2/2022. (esm) (Entered: 05/02/2022) |
| 05/10/2022 | | INDICTMENT UNSEALED as to Nathan Carman pursuant to notification of Defendant's arrest. (hbc) (Entered: 05/10/2022) |
| 05/10/2022 | 5 | ORDER Appointing FPD for Nathan Carman. Signed by Deputy Clerk on 5/10/2022. (pjl) (Entered: 05/10/2022) |
| 10/19/2022 | 51 | JOINT MOTION for Extension of Time to File Pretrial Motions and Exclusion of Time Pursuant to the Speedy Trial Act by USA as to Nathan Carman. (Burris, Nathanael) (Main Document 51 replaced on 10/19/2022) (esm). (Additional attachment(s) added on 10/19/2022: # 1 Proposed Order) (esm). (Entered: 10/19/2022) |
| [....] | [...] | |
| 10/19/2022 | 52 | NOTICE OF DOCKET ENTRY CORRECTION as to Nathan Carman re: 51 JOINT MOTION for Extension of Time to File Pretrial Motions and Exclusion of Time Pursuant to the Speedy Trial Act. (Attachments: # 1 Proposed Order). The Motion and Proposed Order were entered as one pdf. They have now been separated and are attached to 51 and this entry. (esm) (Entered: 10/19/2022) |
| 10/19/2022 | 53 | ORDER granting 51 JOINT Motion for Extension of Time to File Pretrial Motions as to Nathan Carman (1). Pretrial motions are due by 12/6/2022. Signed by Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford on 10/19/2022. (esm) (Entered: 10/19/2022) |
| 12/06/2022 | 54 | THIRD REVISED NOTICE OF HEARING as to Nathan Carman: Status Conference reset for 12/15/2022 at 1:30 PM in Rutland Courtroom before Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford. (pjl) (Entered: 12/06/2022) |
| 12/09/2022 | 55 | TEMPORARY CASE REASSIGNMENT ORDER as to Nathan Carman to Judge Christina Reiss. Signed by Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford on 12/9/2022. (esm) (Entered: 12/09/2022) |
| 12/13/2022 | 56 | JOINT MOTION for Extension of Time to File Pretrial Motions by USA as to Nathan Carman. (Attachments: # 1 Proposed Order, # 2 Certificate of Service) (Burris, Nathanael) Modified on 12/13/2022 to clarify text (sjl). (Entered: 12/13/2022) |
| 12/14/2022 | 57 | ORDER granting 56 Joint Motion for Extension of Time to File Pretrial Motions as to Nathan Carman (1). Pretrial motions now due 2/15/2023. Signed by Judge Christina Reiss on 12/13/2022. (law) (Main Document 57 replaced on 12/14/2022) (law). (Entered: 12/14/2022) |
| 01/05/2023 | 58 | ORDER REASSIGNING CASE as to Nathan Carman to Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford. Judge Christina Reiss no longer assigned to the case. Signed by Judge Christina Reiss on 1/5/2023. (sjl) (Entered: 01/06/2023) |
| 01/17/2023 | 59 | FIRST MOTION for Bill of Particulars as to Counts One through Six and Count Eight by Nathan Carman. (Attachments: # 1 Memorandum in Support)(Sullivan, David) Text modified on 1/18/2023 (esm). (Entered: 01/17/2023) |
| 01/19/2023 | 60 | NOTICE OF HEARING as to Nathan Carman: Status Conference and Hearing re: 59 FIRST MOTION for Bill of Particulars as to Counts One through Six and Count Eight set for 2/2/2023 at 1:30 PM in Rutland Courtroom before Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford. (pjl) (Entered: 01/19/2023) |
| 01/19/2023 | 61 | ORDER re 60 Notice of Hearing: In the course of the pre-trial conference, the court intends to set a firm trial date. The court will appreciate advice from both sides about when to schedule the trial and for how long. Signed by Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford on 1/19/2023. (This is a text-only Order.) (jal) (Entered: 01/19/2023) |
| 01/26/2023 | 62 | MOTION for Partial Disclosure of Grand Jury Minutes by Nathan Carman. (Attachments: # 1 Memorandum in Support, # 2 Exhibit A) (Sullivan, David) Text modified on 1/27/2023 (esm). (Entered: 01/26/2023) |
| 01/27/2023 | 63 | ORDER re 62 MOTION for Partial Disclosure of Portion of Grand Jury Minutes as to Nathan Carman. The Goverment shall respond to this motion no later than February 1, 2023. Signed by Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford on 1/27/2023. (This is a text-only Order.) (jal) (Entered: 01/27/2023) |
| 01/30/2023 | 64 | ORDER re 62 MOTION for Partial Disclosure of Portion of Grand Jury Minutes as to Nathan Carman. The Government shall respond to this motion no later than February 6, 2023. Signed by Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford on 1/30/2023. (This is a text-only Order.) (jal) (Entered: 01/30/2023) |
| 01/31/2023 | 65 | REVISED NOTICE OF HEARING as to Nathan Carman: Status Conference and Hearing re: 59 FIRST MOTION for Bill of Particulars as to Counts One through Six and Count Eight, 62 MOTION for Partial Disclosure of Portion of Grand Jury Minutes reset for 2/7/2023 at 1:30 PM in Rutland Courtroom before Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford. (pjl) (Entered: 01/31/2023) |
| 02/03/2023 | 66 | RESPONSE in Opposition to 59 FIRST MOTION for Bill of Particulars as to Counts One through Six and Count Eight by USA as to Nathan Carman. (Burris, Nathanael) (Entered: 02/03/2023) |
| 02/06/2023 | 67 | REPLY to Response to 59 FIRST MOTION for Bill of Particulars as to Counts One through Six and Count Eight by Nathan Carman. (Sullivan, David) (Entered: 02/06/2023) |
| 02/06/2023 | 68 | RESPONSE in Opposition to 62 MOTION for Partial Disclosure of Portion of Grand Jury Minutes by USA as to Nathan Carman. (Van de Graaf, Paul) (Entered: 02/06/2023) |
| 02/07/2023 | 69 | MINUTE ENTRY for proceedings held before Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford: Motion Hearing as to Nathan Carman held on 2/7/2023 re 59 FIRST MOTION for Bill of Particulars as to Counts One through Six and Count Eight and 62 MOTION for Partial Disclosure of Portion of Grand Jury Minutes. P. Van de Graaf, AUSA and N. Burris, AUSA present for gov't. D. Sullivan, Esq. and M. Minnella, Esq. present with deft. Court makes inquiries and counsel make statements re: (1) 59 & 62 Motions, (2) speedy trial & scheduling deadlines, and (3) trial dates. Court makes findings. ORDERED: 59 FIRST MOTION for Bill of Particulars as to Counts One through Six and Count Eight and 62 MOTION for Partial Disclosure of Portion of Grand Jury Minutes are taken under advisement. Gov't to submit a motion extending pretrial motion deadlines. A jury trial will be scheduled from 10/2/2023-10/20/2023. Deft to submit supplemental memorandum re: charged vs uncharged conduct by 2/10/2023. (Court Reporter: Sunnie Donath) (eh) (Entered: 02/07/2023) |
| 02/09/2023 | 70 | NOTICE OF HEARING as to Nathan Carman: Jury Draw set for 10/10/2023 at 9:00 AM in Rutland Courtroom before Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford. Jury Trial to begin immediately after and continue through 10/27/2023 from 9:00 AM to 5:00 PM each day in Rutland Courtroom before Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford. (pjl) (Entered: 02/09/2023) |
| 02/10/2023 | 71 | SUPPLEMENTAL DOCUMENT(S) RE: Charged vs. Uncharged Conduct by Nathan Carman re: 62 MOTION for Partial Disclosure of Portion of Grand Jury Minutes. (Sullivan, David) (Entered: 02/10/2023) |
| 02/16/2023 | 72 | ORDER denying 59 FIRST MOTION for Bill of Particulars as to Counts One through Six and Count Eight; denying 62 MOTION for Partial Disclosure of Grand Jury Minutes as to Nathan Carman (1). Signed by Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford on 2/16/2023. (esm) (Entered: 02/16/2023) |
| 02/16/2023 | 73 | JOINT SCHEDULING MOTION and Exclusion of Time Pursuant to the Speedy Trial Act by USA as to Nathan Carman. (Attachments: # 1 Proposed Order) (Burris, Nathanael) Modified on 2/17/2023 to clarify text (sjl). (Entered: 02/16/2023) |
| 02/17/2023 | 74 | ORDER granting 73 Joint Scheduling Motion and Exclusion of Time Pursuant to the Speedy Trial Acts as to Nathan Carman (1). Pretrial Motions due by 4/17/2023. Signed by Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford on 2/17/2023. (sjl) (Entered: 02/17/2023) |
| 03/21/2023 | 75 | MOTION for Release of Brady Materials by Nathan Carman. (Attachments: # 1 Memorandum in Support)(Sullivan, David) (Entered: 03/21/2023) |
| 03/21/2023 | 76 | MOTION for Disclosure of Giglio Material by Nathan Carman. (Attachments: # 1 Memorandum in Support)(Sullivan, David) (Entered: 03/21/2023) |
| 04/04/2023 | 77 | RESPONSE to 76 MOTION for Disclosure of Giglio Material, 75 MOTION for Release of Brady Materials by USA as to Nathan Carman. (Burris, Nathanael) (Entered: 04/04/2023) |
| 04/14/2023 | 78 | MOTION for Disclosure of Jencks Material by Nathan Carman. (Attachments: # 1 Memorandum in Support)(Sullivan, David) (Entered: 04/14/2023) |
| 04/14/2023 | 79 | MOTION for Disclosure of Rule 404(b) Material by Nathan Carman. (Attachments: # 1 Memorandum in Support)(Sullivan, David) (Entered: 04/14/2023) |
| 04/14/2023 | 80 | MOTION for Notice of Intent to Use Residual Hearsay Exception under Rule 807 by Nathan Carman. (Sullivan, David) (Entered: 04/14/2023) |
| 04/18/2023 | 81 | NOTICE OF HEARING as to Nathan Carman re: 75 MOTION for Release of Brady Materials , 78 MOTION for Disclosure of Jencks Material, 76 MOTION for Disclosure of Giglio Material, 79 MOTION for Disclosure of Rule 404(b) Material, 80 MOTION for Notice of Intent to Use Residual Hearsay Exception under Rule 807: Motion Hearing set for 5/17/2023 at 1:00 PM in Rutland Courtroom before Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford. (eh) (Entered: 04/18/2023) |
| 04/28/2023 | 82 | RESPONSE to 78 MOTION for Disclosure of Jencks Material, 79 MOTION for Disclosure of Rule 404(b) Material, 80 MOTION for Notice of Intent to Use Residual Hearsay Exception under Rule 807 by USA as to Nathan Carman. (Burris, Nathanael) (Entered: 04/28/2023) |
| 05/03/2023 | 83 | REVISED NOTICE OF HEARING as to Nathan Carman re: 75 MOTION for Release of Brady Materials, 78 MOTION for Disclosure of Jencks Material, 76 MOTION for Disclosure of Giglio Material , 79 MOTION for Disclosure of Rule 404(b) Material, 80 MOTION for Notice of Intent to Use Residual Hearsay Exception under Rule 807: Motion Hearing set for 6/14/2023 at 1:30 PM in Rutland Courtroom before Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford. (eh) (Entered: 05/03/2023) |
| 05/27/2023 | 84 | MOTION to Withdraw as Attorney by Nathan Carman. (Katims, Robert) (Entered: 05/27/2023) |
| 05/30/2023 | 85 | ORDER granting 84 MOTION to Withdraw as Attorney as to Nathan Carman. Signed by Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford on 5/30/2023. (This is a text-only Order.) (jal) (Entered: 05/30/2023) |
| 05/30/2023 | | ATTORNEY UPDATE as to Nathan Carman. Attorney Robert W. Katims, Esq terminated pursuant to Doc. 85 (TOO). (sjl) (Entered: 06/05/2023) |
| 06/08/2023 | 86 | SECOND REVISED NOTICE OF HEARING as to Nathan Carman re: 75 MOTION for Release of Brady Materials, 76 MOTION for Disclosure of Giglio Material, 78 MOTION for Disclosure of Jencks Material, 79 MOTION for Disclosure of Rule 404(b) Material, 80 MOTION for Notice of Intent to Use Residual Hearsay Exception under Rule 807. Motion Hearing set for 7/12/2023 at 1:30 PM in Rutland Courtroom before Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford.(eh) (Entered: 06/08/2023) |
| 06/15/2023 | 87 | NOTICE OF DISMISSAL by USA as to Nathan Carman.(Burris, Nathanael) (Entered: 06/15/2023) |
| 06/15/2023 | 88 | ORDER granting 87 Notice of Dismissal as to Nathan Carman. Signed by Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford on 6/15/2023. (sjl) (Entered: 06/15/2023) |
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ETA: Pulled NC's docket and only thing I see of note is his 5th lawyer's motion to withdraw was granted on 5/30/23 after he learned he was being appointed as a Judge. His firm was a contractor the the FPD's office but the firm is being dissolved so NC was sent back to the FPD office for a staff attorney. IMO, the change for new counsel at this date most likely would delay the Oct trial date.
