RI - Mass Shooting at Brown University - Providence 13 Dec 2025

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CNN interviewed CV's neighbors from the time he was a student at IST. According to former neighbors, CV lived in their apartment building and was reclusive. He cut his parents off and even changed the locks to the apartment, which he later sold without his parents' knowledge. They would come to visit him, but he wouldn't open the door. At times they would hide near the apartment, hoping to see him. On one occasion they came with firefighters and police, checking if something happened to him. He was not home and was very upset by the incident. His mother got the information from the neighbors about his well being. She stated that her son needed help but didn't want to get it.



I wonder what was his grudge against his parents?
Yikes, this definitely sounds like he had something going on that his parents recognized and wanted him to get help for, but he refused. That something could be what also caused him to do what he did or at least maybe that underlying issue contributed to him being able to carry out such an awful attack with so much planning and preparation. IMO
 
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(NewsNation) — Professor Scott Watson, a former friend and classmate of Brown shooting suspect Claudio Manuel Neves Valente, says the alleged shooter was “very bitter” during their days at the Ivy League school.

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“He was very bitter,” Watson remembered. “He thought he knew more than everybody else. The sad part about that is he did … he could have already had a PhD.

“We had another classmate who was Brazilian, and as you know, Portugal had a slave colony in Brazil,” Watson said. “So, he would refer to this student, as he walked in, as ‘the slave.’ And one day it escalated to a fighting match that I had to break up.”

Watson told NewsNation he did not know Loureiro but suggested his motive may have been due to a “rivalry” between Valente and the MIT professor.

 
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CV should have listened to this NL's 2018 speech On failure. "The most important thing is how you deal with failure." NL's point is that every failure is a learning moment.

 
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In thinking about this case - and JMO - it seems probable to me that CV would have wanted to make sure that NL knew that he, CV, was the Brown University shooter. Cascade of horrors kind of thing.

In so many ways, despite his reclusive lifestyle and rejection of his family, this man craved attention.
 
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There is no indication of animosity between CV and NL when they studied together at IST. With only 45 students in the class, they attended the same lectures but were not in the same group for practical work. CV achieved a higher grade than NL (19 versus 16). At the time, the program lasted five years and led to a bachelor's degree, which today would be considered equivalent to a master's degree. CV was invited to become a teaching assistant in his third year.

Their professional paths did not cross after IST, so the attack on NL seems to be (IMO) the result of jealousy that developed years, even decades, later. Since NL did not attend Brown, CV's resentment toward the school seems unrelated. NL never stood in the way of CV's success, but he was probably recognized as the most successful IST alum, which may have bothered CV.

CV's former classmates at IST considered him to be a normal person. They believe that mental health issues may have been a factor in the murders.


 
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There is no indication of animosity between CV and NL when they studied together at IST. With only 45 students in the class, they attended the same lectures but were not in the same group for practical work. CV achieved a higher grade than NL (19 versus 16). At the time, the program lasted five years and led to a bachelor's degree, which today would be considered equivalent to a master's degree. CV was invited to become a teaching assistant in his third year.

Their professional paths did not cross after IST, so the attack on NL seems to be (IMO) the result of jealousy that developed years, even decades, later. Since NL did not attend Brown, CV's resentment toward the school seems unrelated. NL never stood in the way of CV's success, but he was probably recognized as the most successful IST alum, which may have bothered CV.

CV's former classmates at IST considered him to be a normal person. They believe that mental health issues may have been a factor in the murders.


It's been mentioned that CV was the top of their class, higher than NL at the institute. Plus he won a bunch of coveted awards. At Brown, CV found the program and course work "easy" not challenging. Being labeled a top university, that must have been a let down. My theory is he resented both NL and Brown for presenting themselves as supreme when he knew they weren't. It's a strange thing to have a grudge about, but that's my sense. I don't think he's jealous as he could have done these things himself. Clearly, based on his actions, he was unwell. Being a loner and out of touch with his parents, he likely had no one to counter balance for his off kilter POV. There's a fine line between genius and madness.
 

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