Romanian Church Wants Pregnant 11-year-old Rape Victim to Give Birth

  • #21
I assume it will be tragic to the mother - in this case a child killing her unborn.

Yes , God loves life in all it's stages...but, to choose in this stage to kill over giving live birth,- is one that the mother has to deal with, not the unborn.
all I can say is WOW
an 11 year old rape victim has to deal with it either way-
what way would you choose if it was your 11 year old daughter who was raped by your brother or brother-in-law
 
  • #22
all I can say is WOW
an 11 year old rape victim has to deal with it either way-
what way would you choose if it was your 11 year old daughter who was raped by your brother or brother-in-law
Not sure.

How would you tell your child, pregnant with a life, to handle the scary life involving, poss. live ending , life changing situation?
 
  • #23
Not sure.

How would you tell your child, pregnant with a life, to handle the scary life involving, poss. live ending , life changing situation?

The key is the decision being made is by adults who know this child best. The determination was made by them that the pregnancy needs to end. The Church is grandstanding to reinforce a point...why have they chosen her do you suppose?
 
  • #24
all I can say is WOW
an 11 year old rape victim has to deal with it either way-
what way would you choose if it was your 11 year old daughter who was raped by your brother or brother-in-law

Not sure.

How would you tell your child, pregnant with a life, to handle the scary life involving, poss. live ending , life changing situation?
not sure-
how would you tell your child she was going to give birth , and would either be held repsonsible for this life, or give it up to someone else to raise after going thru the birth, perhaps and most likely never seeing this baby ?
 
  • #25
Not sure.

How would you tell your child, pregnant with a life, to handle the scary life involving, poss. live ending , life changing situation?

I would make the decision for her at this age. I would tell her that being pregnant endangered her in numerous ways, and that she was going to have an operation to end that pregnancy.
 
  • #26
Not sure.

How would you tell your child, pregnant with a life, to handle the scary life involving, poss. live ending , life changing situation?

If my CHILD had been raped, I would let HER choose. I would want my child NOT to have the baby, but ultimately it would be HER decision...
How would you tell YOUR child to handle the scary life involving her, pregnant with a life to handle the scary life possibly involving live birth and yes, life changing..
Would YOU respect YOUR chikd NO matter what?
 
  • #27
I would make the decision for her at this age. I would tell her that being pregnant endangered her in numerous ways, and that she was going to have an operation to end that pregnancy.
thank you-
I would also- the only thing in this instance that does take me aback, is the timeframe of the pregnancy-
 
  • #28
If my CHILD had been raped, I would let HER choose. I would want my child NOT to have the baby, but ultimately it would be HER decision...
How would you tell YOUR child to handle the scary life involving her, pregnant with a life to handle the scary life possibly involving live birth and yes, life changing..
Would YOU respect YOUR chikd NO matter what?
at 11 years old? you would let her choose?
 
  • #29
thank you-
I would also- the only thing in this instance that does take me aback, is the timeframe of the pregnancy-

Yes - that is unfortunate and seems to be at least part of the issue in Romania. In many places in the US, had the rape been reported, this girl would have probably been given the morning after pill (at least that was SOP at the Rape Crists Center where I worked).

But it sounds like this young girl may not have said anything until it was discovered she was pregnant.

Still - just being honest - given what I know about the case, I would rather my 11-year-old go through the "trauma" of abortion than the "trauma" of childbirth. Also - I would not leave such a decision in her hands at that age.
 
  • #30
Yes - that is unfortunate and seems to be at least part of the issue in Romania. In many places in the US, had the rape been reported, this girl would have probably been given the morning after pill (at least that was SOP at the Rape Crists Center where I worked).

But it sounds like this young girl may not have said anything until it was discovered she was pregnant.

Still - just being honest - given what I know about the case, I would rather my 11-year-old go through the "trauma" of abortion than the "trauma" of childbirth. Also - I would not leave such a decision in her hands at that age.
Dont get me wrong, i agree with you 100 %- and thought the same thing as far as Romania and her not saying anything until she did- I would do the same thing fr the same reasons-
 
  • #31
Dont get me wrong, i agree with you 100 %- and thought the same thing as far as Romania and her not saying anything until she did- I would do the same thing fr the same reasons-

No worries - I saw that we were on the same side of the street with this one.:blowkiss:
 
  • #32
Yes - that is unfortunate and seems to be at least part of the issue in Romania. In many places in the US, had the rape been reported, this girl would have probably been given the morning after pill (at least that was SOP at the Rape Crists Center where I worked).

But it sounds like this young girl may not have said anything until it was discovered she was pregnant.

Still - just being honest - given what I know about the case, I would rather my 11-year-old go through the "trauma" of abortion than the "trauma" of childbirth. Also - I would not leave such a decision in her hands at that age.

I agree, the reprecussions of it being her decision could bother her all her life. I would rather take it as my decision than to expect her to deal with it when it shouldnt have happened to her in the first place.

Im prolife but when it comes to my child I am prochoice. I would do whatever I could to protect her from harm and I would always be supportive in her choices. The stage of pregnancy is a bit bothersome for me since if it was just 4 weeks later the baby could survive.

Thinking of this just makes me sick, I pray my daughter never has to think about an unwanted pregnancy/rape especially at such a young age. Prayers for the family that are having to deal with this.
 
  • #33
At 11, she is not old enough to choose. Death is not real to her. A baby is just a dollie. I would absolutely make the choice for my child - and no way would I force her to go through all the trauma of pregnancy and childbirth after she'd been raped. Imagine the trauma of every pregnancy checkup when she has to let a doctor examine her.

Respecting your children doesn't mean I am a fool who expects them to do things beyond their age. Right now if I respected my child's wishes, every meal would be a banana and donut holes. She's not old enough. She's not old enough to even make the decision to have sex, for many more years now - no way is she old enough for this choice.
 
  • #34
Yes I did. And your point???


My POINT IS that an 11 year old rape victim should not have to give birth.

You think GOD wants a child born who was concieved in a brutal attack on a CHILD?
Your God isn't my God.
 
  • #35
If my CHILD had been raped, I would let HER choose. I would want my child NOT to have the baby, but ultimately it would be HER decision...

What? You would let an 11 year old choose?
You going to let an 11 year old choose to smoke too?

:doh:
 
  • #36
At 11, she is not old enough to choose. Death is not real to her. A baby is just a dollie. I would absolutely make the choice for my child - and no way would I force her to go through all the trauma of pregnancy and childbirth after she'd been raped. Imagine the trauma of every pregnancy checkup when she has to let a doctor examine her.

Respecting your children doesn't mean I am a fool who expects them to do things beyond their age. Right now if I respected my child's wishes, every meal would be a banana and donut holes. She's not old enough. She's not old enough to even make the decision to have sex, for many more years now - no way is she old enough for this choice.


Finally!! Someone with logic! :clap::clap::clap:
 
  • #37
  • #38
The key is the decision being made is by adults who know this child best. The determination was made by them that the pregnancy needs to end. The Church is grandstanding to reinforce a point...why have they chosen her do you suppose?

The key is that life is life. The Church is not grand standing, but simply following mandites

not sure-
how would you tell your child she was going to give birth , and would either be held repsonsible for this life, or give it up to someone else to raise after going thru the birth, perhaps and most likely never seeing this baby ?
you ask a lot of questions here. Which is it?

I would make the decision for her at this age. I would tell her that being pregnant endangered her in numerous ways, and that she was going to have an operation to end that pregnancy.
Sure, fine...but being pregnant and giving birth is only a bad thing to a mind that makes it so. What about the child that believes that the unborn is worthy of life??
 
  • #39
  • #40
....Sure, fine...but being pregnant and giving birth is only a bad thing to a mind that makes it so. What about the child that believes that the unborn is worthy of life??

I agree with this completely. In this situation, I would under no circumstance let my child make the decision to carry the pregnancy to term even if she felt like she wanted to. I do not believe an 11-year-old is in a position to make that decision.

I would tell her that the pregnancy endangers her and that, as her parent, I cannot allow her continue to be in danger. Hence - an operation to end the pregnancy.

If she was angry at me (in the instant or later), I would be okay with that.
 

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