Ron C. # 10

[DenVIP]

I don't know who gets to decide what is okay and what isn't, but I can comment on the impression it leaves me with..... people who don't have any questions and don't want to work with the police to put the pieces together generally already know the answers

like ron not having asked misty questions about the night Haleigh went missing....hmmm makes me wonder

 

[Gracenote]

Unfortunately everything that everyone posts here is out there in cyber-world. The more people post about Haleigh's parents or relatives all it takes is a few simple words in "google" and up pops everything including what is posted at WS.

That's how I found WS with a few words at google.

Me too!

I tell ya between Facebook, this place, other groups, emails, blogs and work-related things, if I ever run for public office I will be paying all of you off to say I never said what I said. *LOL* Nooooo, she never said that. Must be a hacker that did that.

And you can't erase it, ever. Once it gets into cyber space it is saved, cached, whatever. Permanent.

I never said that...

 

[MaedchenX]

Just bouncing off your post, not replying to it, well kind of I am.

The thing is I feel like {IMO} if you insert a different name in the sentence "________ has broken off communication with LE and is refusing to speak to them because they got too personal and they were rude" this whole thread would stand on its end. You pick the name and try it out. Try the AC man. The pedophile down the road. Or, say, Crystal.

Why is it ok for two people to do it but no one else?

Thank you for saying this.

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

I don't know who gets to decide what is okay and what isn't, but I can comment on the impression it leaves me with..... people who don't have any questions and don't want to work with the police to put the pieces together generally already know the answers

:clap::clap::clap:

 

[lonetraveler]

IMO...I think it is exactly what Ronald has done for Misty by marrying her...clean her up completely.
IMO...he is trying to provide for her, give her support, love, and to prevent other people from harming her as a husband should do.
IMO...she is much better off with the Cummings' family than with the people who pushed her out the door or allowed her to leave as a young teenager with no supervision other than her abusive brother in Daytona who has no respect for the woman he married.
IMO...she is probably doing better without her family during this stressful time in her life with them adding additional stress on her.

I was being facetious, surely you are not serious, Serious? Do you really see Ron as an exemplary example of manhood? As a model for all young boys? Please tell me it isn't so. Ron as "Father of the Year"? I may need to take a break.......

 

[kamky]

I can understand why Ron might not want to talk to LE, based on some perceived bad experiences early on. It apppears that he has taken offense that he and/or Misty may still be regarded as possible supects and are being treated accordingly by LE.
However, the whole objective of LE is to determine who took Haleigh and to find her. The feelings of any other parties, including her parents, is of secondary importance. Ron should view LE as being correct for putting Haleigh first, even if it means they have to do their job and make a parent uncomfortable. He has far more to gain by cooperating with them and being proactive in staying in constant touch with LE. In fact, being a pest would probably be a far better tactic.

 

[lonetraveler]

How do you think it would help them to know that mommy didn't bring Haleigh to doctor's appt's because she didn't feel like getting out of bed? I don't get that, particularly given you seem to staunchly support Crystal. Do you think they should also know about her mishap with the ax, the crack found on her property, the dog fighting etc?? Or do you just want them to read the bad stuff about their dad?

No, I don't support Crystal. I support Haleigh. It is not my fault that there is much more suspicion on Ron and Misty than Haleigh's mother. I had nothing to do with the evidence and the fact that Haleigh was last seen by these two people. I absolutely had no control over that at all. If you will read my post entirely, I said both parents, everything about them period. Both, read my lips. Both parents. Go back read it, there will be a pop quizz later on comprehension

 

[lonetraveler]

I can understand why Ron might not want to talk to LE, based on some perceived bad experiences early on. It apppears that he has taken offense that he and/or Misty may still be regarded as possible supects and are being treated accordingly by LE.
However, the whole objective of LE is to determine who took Haleigh and to find her. The feelings of any other parties, including her parents, is of secondary importance. Ron should view LE as being correct for putting Haleigh first, even if it means they have to do their job and make a parent uncomfortable. He has far more to gain by cooperating with them and being proactive in staying in constant touch with LE. In fact, being a pest would probably be a far better tactic.

ITA, how effective or successful would LE be if they had to tip toe around people so that feelings would not get hurt?

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

No, I don't support Crystal. I support Haleigh. It is not my fault that there is much more suspicion on Ron and Misty than Haleigh's mother. I had nothing to do with the evidence and the fact that Haleigh was last seen by these two people. I absolutely had no control over that at all. If you will read my post entirely, I said both parents, everything about them period. Both, read my lips. Both parents. Go back read it, there will be a pop quizz later on comprehension

I did read your post in full. Don't know that I'll be subjecting myself to your comprehension test though....lol.

I still don't get why you think it would be good for the children to read that rubbish about their parents. How do you think it would help Haleigh to know her mom couldn't be bothered getting out of bed to get her to a doctor and that played a role in her father getting custody? I think it would be much healthier if they simply were told that mom and dad both loved them very much and both would have loved to have had them and fought to have them etc. I'm not a huge Crystal fan, but she was young when she had her children, and assuming she now lives a productive life, I really don't believe her children need to know all the sordid details about her past or their father's past.

 

[kamky]

ITA, how effective or successful would LE be if they had to tip toe around people so that feelings would not get hurt?

I didn't suggest that.

 

[lonetraveler]

I did read your post in full. Don't know that I'll be subjecting myself to your comprehension test though....lol.

I still don't get why you think it would be good for the children to read that rubbish about their parents. How do you think it would help Haleigh to know her mom couldn't be bothered getting out of bed to get her to a doctor and that played a role in her father getting custody? I think it would be much healthier if they simply were told that mom and dad both loved them very much and both would have loved to have had them and fought to have them etc. I'm not a huge Crystal fan, but she was young when she had her children, and assuming she now lives a productive life, I really don't believe her children need to know all the sordid details about her past or their father's past.

I believe that when all is said and done in this case that the children if there is more than one child surviving, will not get the truth of how both parents loved them. They will get whatever story that the Hatfields and McCoys decide they need to know. This case will be their history unfortunately and they will eventually have to understand the facts so that the rumors and fairytales will not take over and influence their way of thinking and dealing with this tragedy. One day they need to know the truth about what really happened to Haleigh. No matter how awful it may be, Jr. if he is the lone survivor needs to know that his big sister did not just leave him there alone by choice.

 

[lonetraveler]

I didn't suggest that.

Sorry, I agreed with your post and I didn't know that I said that you suggest anything. Didn't mean to say that you suggested anything.

 

[kiki the parrot]

What evidence convinces you that LE will bend..twist and manipulate what comes out of RC and Misty's mouth.

(respectfully snipped)

This makes me truly sad, I sincerely hope that you do not really believe that LE would rather wrongly convict Ron and/or Misty just because it would be easier or quicker than finding someone else who might be truly guilty. I would never want that to happen, and my own belief is that neither would LE ever want that to happen. If they are innocent, then cooperation and information is the path to clearing their names. For the sake of Haleigh and especially Jr. I wish that this would be the outcome.

(bbm) ...phew... (plodding thru thread) Exactly. If it leads to Haleigh, it leads to Haleigh. LE's gonna feel you're either with them, or against them. So if they aren't convinced you're being entirely cooperative, helpful or available, I see no reason LE would owe you investigative updates or take you into their confidence. JMO

arrot:

 

[mysticrose]

One thing I will say is I was very happy to see Ron on TV, on video talking about Haleigh.
I also commend him for not going on about the altercation he had with the in laws.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Originally Posted by raeann
This makes me truly sad, I sincerely hope that you do not really believe that LE would rather wrongly convict Ron and/or Misty just because it would be easier or quicker than finding someone else who might be truly guilty. I would never want that to happen, and my own belief is that neither would LE ever want that to happen. If they are innocent, then cooperation and information is the path to clearing their names. For the sake of Haleigh and especially Jr. I wish that this would be the outcome.

Oh, but I sincerely do believe that LE could possibly try to convict either one of them if they find any way to make it fit their "theory"...MY OPINION OF COURSE. My bet is they are tailoring all the "evidence"...or the lack of evidence that is...towards that end, IMO.

 

[nomoresorrow]

All this concern over Ron C's surviving children reading what others have said about him someday via the internet will fade in comparison to the records that speak for themselves as to the "man" that RC's is/was (or perhaps more appropriately, "the man that he wasn't" . . . In my opinion). Apparently he seems he$$ bent on adding to his legacy - or should I say, he could care less, in my opinion, what his surviving children someday know, read about or think of him - RC and RC only is responsible for how his children choose to see him someday, not you and not me. That seems to have worked quite well where TN's & AS's are concerned but do not volunteer me up or offer my services as an additional female scapegoat/enabler to aid in the continuation of carrying responsibility and blame that should be solely RC's to carry! I have one son who is RC's age and another who is a couple years older - I worked too hard to raise two responsible, compassionate, decent and law abiding men, men who have NEVER had any conflict with the law whatsoever, to allow anybody to try to put the responsibility or blame in my lap for the outcome of how RC's children view him someday. If RC's cared enough about how his children viewed him/or would view him someday, I can think of a dozen things right off the top of my head that he would have, could have and should done differently - his most recent arrest is just another example of how much RC's cares about what his children will think of him someday . . .

The views expressed here are my opinions only and do not reflect on anyone else . . . JMO

 

[kiki the parrot]

LE can not, of course, convict anyone--wrongfully or rightfully. The evidence is what it is. In this case, it lead investigators in numerous directions and they extensively interviewed, and gathered info from, multiple sources. Everyone who wants to find Haleigh, but especially the custodial parent and the one to last see her, present at the time she disappeared, should be assisting LE in every way possible--w/out worrying about where any evidence leads. I know I would be. I'd be at their beck and call--put myself at their disposal volunteering as much time as it took--and demonstrate thru my willingness to work w them that I was an open book. LE has more info, obviously, on which they're basing the course of the investigation. JMO

arrot:

 

[kiki the parrot]

I really don't recommend dredging up/comparing previous histories between these parents--neither repeatedly, incessantly here but certainly not in front of any children.

But if Junior should happen to read an account someday of this particular story, if it is any sort of reliable publication of any integrity I'm quite confident most fairminded reporters won't feel the need to 'spin' or wrongly depict this as just some "trespassers," (nor as "intruders," as has also been used) guilty of attempted kidnapping, but rather will clarify they were family, risking their own necks, in responding to an earlier cry from their daughter/sister for help. But this should be addressed on Arrest thread just as Crystal, I believe, belongs on CS thread.

arrot:

 

[Patty G]

If you want to discuss the recent arrest of DS, take it to the Parking Lot. Should this person become part of the Haleigh case, we can always move it back to the Main Forum.

 

[lil momma]

Action News has learned that her parents meet with detectives once a month to talk about leads and what they've found. There's also a new chief investigator, overseeing Haleigh's case. She was one of the first deputies at the scene when Haleigh disappeared.
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/conten...ths-missing-today/Lz_91PDOSU2XXRzHEeHdYA.cspx

Interesting.

I am confused, in the article and the headline it doesn't state that the "parents" meet once a month. It only states that the investigators meet once a month. Is there more to this article, that i did not see? TIA