Ron C. # 11

[stilettos]

I changed my post:

ETA: Clearly, I consider "examined" to mean "looked over" which means they used their EYEBALLS, IMO, to view the evidence collected at some point, IMO, but did not send it in for further "analysis" until after the task force found it had not been tested, IMO.

There are many ways to "process" evidence...just one of which is to "process" it with their "eyeballs" looking into a microscope. We will agree to disagree...I support LE who are trying to find HaLeigh.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

The above bolded by you plainly states that some has yet to be analyzed, and priorities were set for that analysis. Standard operating procedure in any case...they are trained to set those priorities. No where in that link does it state your eyeball test theory. They will test in priority asignment the evidence provided by crime scene techs. If you have any other evidence of malfeasance by LE, please don't just post about it...report it.

And how many months after Haleigh went missing and this "evidence" was collected did the participants of this roundtable conclude that it had not been "analyzed"?! So why then did the "participants" of the roundtable at that time decide it was SOP and set those priorities after months of having it in their possession?!

I am quite sure that PCSO became aware this took place as some of them were attending the meeting, imo.

 

[stilettos]

And how many months after Haleigh went missing and this "evidence" was collected did the participants of this roundtable conclude that it had not been "analyzed"?! So why then did the "participants" of the roundtable at that time decide it was SOP and set those priorities after months of having it in their possession?!

I am quite sure that PCSO became aware this took place as some of them were attending the meeting, imo.

I hear what you are saying SS but the link you provided clearly states that priority was assigned to the evidence. One officer may have a differing opinion about the urgency of one piece of evidence over another. you have posted that there is a concerted effort to manufacture evidence and deliberate LE efforts to basically frame someone. I do not see that. If you do know of factual evidence to prove that...please notify the appropriate authorities.

 

[Bobbisangel]

I think it's a great incentive. Pay your support, and you don't have to worry about it. Don't pay, and you can use transit, bicycle, walk, taxicab, carpool, ask friends and relatives for help ec to get to work, or go to jail.

I totally agree. When I was raising my four kids alone and trying to support them without a penny of child support there was nothing done to the fathers if they didn't pay. I think it is about time that the system cracked down on the fathers who aren't fulfilling their responsibilities to their kids. It is the kids who get hurt when dad doesn't pay his support. I sure agree with that.

 

[CrankyPants]

I hear what you are saying SS but the link you provided clearly states that priority was assigned to the evidence. One officer may have a differing opinion about the urgency of one piece of evidence over another. you have posted that there is a concerted effort to manufacture evidence and deliberate LE efforts to basically frame someone. I do not see that. If you do know of factual evidence to prove that...please notify the appropriate authorities.

bbm

Respectfully, I didn't see any of SS's posts suggesting framing/manufacturing of evidence. I understood the posts to express the opinion that LE did not act on the analyzing of evidence in a manner SS considers timely.

Maybe there's been a misunderstanding? I do remember reading a number of opinions similar to SS's after that "round table" meeting.

JMO

 

[Bobbisangel]

I changed my post:

ETA: Clearly, I consider "examined" to mean "looked over" which means they used their EYEBALLS, IMO, to view the evidence collected at some point, IMO, but did not send it in for further "analysis" until after the task force found it had not been tested, IMO.

It has been six months or more since Haleigh went missing. You would think that everything and anything that LE considered could possibly be evidence would have been sent to labs way before this. Labs are always so far behind and it takes forever for them to do the testing. It just makes sense to me that they would have sent everything that they had in as soon as they had it. If they have evidence that hasn't even been sent yet it will probably be six months before the results come back on it. I can't imagine them looking at evidence and setting it aside until who knows when. One piece of that evidence could be what they need to solve the case.

 

[cajun]

It has been six months or more since Haleigh went missing. You would think that everything and anything that LE considered could possibly be evidence would have been sent to labs way before this. Labs are always so far behind and it takes forever for them to do the testing. It just makes sense to me that they would have sent everything that they had in as soon as they had it. If they have evidence that hasn't even been sent yet it will probably be six months before the results come back on it. I can't imagine them looking at evidence and setting it aside until who knows when. One piece of that evidence could be what they need to solve the case.

After the one and only "round table discussion" which was in the beginning of June, Le stated that some things that had not been sent to the lab and tested, that was 4 months later. They didn't take the back door in for testing till after the mobile home was released.

 

[debs]

After the one and only "round table discussion" which was in the beginning of June, Le stated that some things that had not been sent to the lab and tested, that was 4 months later. They didn't take the back door in for testing till after the mobile home was released.

I'm confused.....what does Ronald have to do with LE examination of evidence or round table discussions?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

At first glance, it sounded like they pretty much cleared Ronald and Crystal, imo. I guess those words are hollow since we have heard them before about them not being suspects. This means we are really back where we began months ago except they came out with stronger wording against Misty this time, imo. They are no further ahead in this case, imo.

I do hope MN and TM will find Haleigh and find the truth of what happened to her. I think it will make a difference in the way the case proceeds since it already brought PCSO out of complete silence to give an official statement, imo. I see no other reason for them to break their normal routine and the only thing different is the entrance of MN and TM, imo.

 

[Donjeta]

TM and NM likely played a role but PCSO may well have had a statement planned for her birthday before they came. Also with the fight between Ron & misty's family and the Ratgate, they might have felt that the time was ripe to put some more pressure on in the hopes that something would give. The statement was IMO mainly just more of what they've said before, only more strongly worded. Not much new there. I'm afraid that until Haleigh is found or someone confesses or comes up with new testimonials they may not have a solid case against anyone.

 

[mommyofthreekidz5]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,540143,00.html?test=latestnews

n a news release marking the child's sixth birthday Monday, investigators said the child's biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, were not suspects.

I hope all the bashing can stop now .

 

[kamky]

TM and NM likely played a role but PCSO may well have had a statement planned for her birthday before they came. Also with the fight between Ron & misty's family and the Ratgate, they might have felt that the time was ripe to put some more pressure on in the hopes that something would give. The statement was IMO mainly just more of what they've said before, only more strongly worded. Not much new there. I'm afraid that until Haleigh is found or someone confesses or comes up with new testimonials they may not have a solid case against anyone.

There have been many significant events in the past week and I think that some of these are related. Some may be due to the 6 month milestone, accentuated by Haleigh's birthdate. But a lot has happened and this, IMO, is a positive sign.
- The statement by LE that neither Ron nor Crystal is considered a suspect is much more definitive than what they have said before.
- Renewed emphasis on Misty's inconsistencies and asking the public to come forward on her activities that night.
- Interesting cracks in the relationship between Misty and her family, especially her brother.
- Involvement of Mr Nejame and Mr Miller at the bequest of Ms Neves and apparent sanctioning by LE.
- Possible strategy change by LE - certainly much more information release than in the last 6 months.

 

[evelyn24]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,540143,00.html?test=latestnews

n a news release marking the child's sixth birthday Monday, investigators said the child's biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, were not suspects.

I hope all the bashing can stop now .

You do understand that the term "suspect" has legal consequence once it's used in an official capacity by LE, don't you?
LE hardly ever call anyone a suspect anymore until there is an actual arrest to avoid any legal complications. This is why the term "person (or people) of interest" is used now rather than "suspect."

 

[TxLady2]

You do understand that the term "suspect" has legal meaning to LE, don't you? The LE hardly ever call anyone a suspect anymore until there is an actual arrest.

You are VERY correct! And ... no one is ever officially cleared until someone is arrested and charged with a crime. NO ONE has been cleared except the AC man, so far. Any person's status... officially or UNofficially, can be changed at any time.
It would be a little difficult right now to charge anyone, since they are not positive what crime has been committed.

 

[cajun]

I'm confused.....what does Ronald have to do with LE examination of evidence or round table discussions?

Guess you didn't read her post about evidence..I was answering her. No confusion for me.


Originally Posted by Bobbisangel
It has been six months or more since Haleigh went missing. You would think that everything and anything that LE considered could possibly be evidence would have been sent to labs way before this. Labs are always so far behind and it takes forever for them to do the testing. It just makes sense to me that they would have sent everything that they had in as soon as they had it. If they have evidence that hasn't even been sent yet it will probably be six months before the results come back on it. I can't imagine them looking at evidence and setting it aside until who knows when. One piece of that evidence could be what they need to solve the case.

 

[MADJGNLAW]

Not trying to stir anything up, I know Ron has a lot on his record, but for some reason I missed this one and I did not know that Crystal had a restraining order on him. I would like to know why and what cause the judge to grant her one?
I was looking for something else and came across the transcripts for JVM and read that Ron was pulled over on a routine traffic stop. And the police officer noticed some suspicion, brought in a drug dog, and he had all these drugs in his car, on his possession.

Now, also in the report it tells us -- we had known he had this violation -- an injunction. But now we know that he was not to possess firearms. He was not to come within 100 feet of Crystal, who was the petitioner at the time in the injunction.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: So wait. In plain English, is that like a restraining order?

BONDI: Exactly. That`s exactly what it is. She had a restraining order. And this also mentions that they had minor children together. http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/25/ijvm.01.html

 

[Busylady]

It was all part of a pick order Crystal tried to get in 9/05 to pick up the children - the emergency order to pick up the children was denied. The RO was then dropped by Crystal.

2005-09-22 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
2005-09-22 002.EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION FOR CHILD PICK-UP ORDER
2005-09-22 003.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID.
2005-09-22 004.PHOTO COPY OF ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE
2005-09-22 005.PHOTO COPY OF ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE
2005-09-22 006.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE
2005-09-22 007.TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC
2005-09-22 .VIOLENCE-PARTIES TO APPEAR BEFORE EEH 10/5/05 @ 9:00AM
2005-09-22 .NO CUSTODY ORDERED AT THIS TIME
2005-09-22 .RT 10/7/05 UNSVD-RESPONDENT WAS OUT OF TOWN
2005-09-22 008.ORDER DENYING PETITIONERS EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION
2005-09-22 .FOR CHILD PICK UP ORDER
2005-10-04 009.FAMILY COURT MINUTES- BOTH PARTIES APPEARED,
2005-10-04 .PETITIONER APPEARED IN OPEN COURT AND VOLUNTARILY
2005-10-04 .DISMISSED INJUNCTION
2005-10-05 010.ORDER OF DISMISSAL OF TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR
2005-10-05 .PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE- PETITIONER
2005-10-05 .APPEARED AT THE HEARING BUT DESIRES TO DISMISS ACTION

 

[stilettos]

Not trying to stir anything up, I know Ron has a lot on his record, but for some reason I missed this one and I did not know that Crystal had a restraining order on him. I would like to know why and what cause the judge to grant her one?
I was looking for something else and came across the transcripts for JVM and read that Ron was pulled over on a routine traffic stop. And the police officer noticed some suspicion, brought in a drug dog, and he had all these drugs in his car, on his possession.

Now, also in the report it tells us -- we had known he had this violation -- an injunction. But now we know that he was not to possess firearms. He was not to come within 100 feet of Crystal, who was the petitioner at the time in the injunction.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: So wait. In plain English, is that like a restraining order?

BONDI: Exactly. That`s exactly what it is. She had a restraining order. And this also mentions that they had minor children together. http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/25/ijvm.01.html

Thanks MADJGNLAW for finding that and posting it. I took it to the RT and used it as a jumping off point...hope that is okay?

I no longer have any doubt in my mind that Crystal was abused by Ronald Cummings.....I want to know what he has done or who he knows that LE would now allow him to possess firearms.

 

[stilettos]

It was all part of a pick order Crystal tried to get in 9/05 to pick up the children - the emergency order to pick up the children was denied. The RO was then dropped by Crystal.

2005-09-22 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
2005-09-22 002.EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION FOR CHILD PICK-UP ORDER
2005-09-22 003.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID.
2005-09-22 004.PHOTO COPY OF ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE
2005-09-22 005.PHOTO COPY OF ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE
2005-09-22 006.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE
2005-09-22 007.TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC
2005-09-22 .VIOLENCE-PARTIES TO APPEAR BEFORE EEH 10/5/05 @ 9:00AM
2005-09-22 .NO CUSTODY ORDERED AT THIS TIME
2005-09-22 .RT 10/7/05 UNSVD-RESPONDENT WAS OUT OF TOWN
2005-09-22 008.ORDER DENYING PETITIONERS EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION
2005-09-22 .FOR CHILD PICK UP ORDER
2005-10-04 009.FAMILY COURT MINUTES- BOTH PARTIES APPEARED,
2005-10-04 .PETITIONER APPEARED IN OPEN COURT AND VOLUNTARILY
2005-10-04 .DISMISSED INJUNCTION
2005-10-05 010.ORDER OF DISMISSAL OF TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR
2005-10-05 .PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE- PETITIONER
2005-10-05 .APPEARED AT THE HEARING BUT DESIRES TO DISMISS ACTION

I hear what you are trying to put out there busy...BUT a Judge had to sign off on the order for it to be granted in the first place...meaning he found merit in the petitioners claim. There are many cases of abused women dismissing injunctions against their abuser. She had a restraining order granted by a judge...with an order not to possess firearms.

 

[Busylady]

I do find this interesting though because Crystal has claimed she didnt know about the custody motion being filed because it was sent to a wrong address. Some have speculated that the typed answer that Crystal sent in was forged. However, both Crystal and RC appeared in court after the custody motion was filed and no custody was ordered at that time and the emergency pickup order was denied- so even more evidence IMO that Crystal was fully aware of the custody action taking place.