Ron C. # 11

[atherella]

Not trying to stir anything up, I know Ron has a lot on his record, but for some reason I missed this one and I did not know that Crystal had a restraining order on him. I would like to know why and what cause the judge to grant her one?
I was looking for something else and came across the transcripts for JVM and read that Ron was pulled over on a routine traffic stop. And the police officer noticed some suspicion, brought in a drug dog, and he had all these drugs in his car, on his possession.

Now, also in the report it tells us -- we had known he had this violation -- an injunction. But now we know that he was not to possess firearms. He was not to come within 100 feet of Crystal, who was the petitioner at the time in the injunction.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: So wait. In plain English, is that like a restraining order?

BONDI: Exactly. That`s exactly what it is. She had a restraining order. And this also mentions that they had minor children together. http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/25/ijvm.01.html

Crystal had a TEMPORARY restraining order against 8 days against Ron. She got the order on 9/22/05. She showed up in Court and dismissed it voluntarily on 10/4/05.

To be clear, when a person files for a restraining order, TROs are almost always granted until the time the parties go to court for the final hearing. At that time both parties are heard and the judge determines whether a final order will be granted.

Plaintiffs SHEFFIELD CRYSTAL DIANE
Defendants CUMMINGS RONALD LEMYLES

Date Docket Description
2005-09-22 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
2005-09-22 002.EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION FOR CHILD PICK-UP ORDER
2005-09-22 003.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID.
2005-09-22 004.PHOTO COPY OF ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE
2005-09-22 005.PHOTO COPY OF ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE
2005-09-22 006.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE
2005-09-22 007.TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC
2005-09-22 .VIOLENCE-PARTIES TO APPEAR BEFORE EEH 10/5/05 @ 9:00AM
2005-09-22 .NO CUSTODY ORDERED AT THIS TIME
2005-09-22 .RT 10/7/05 UNSVD-RESPONDENT WAS OUT OF TOWN
2005-09-22 008.ORDER DENYING PETITIONERS EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION
2005-09-22 .FOR CHILD PICK UP ORDER
2005-10-04 009.FAMILY COURT MINUTES- BOTH PARTIES APPEARED,
2005-10-04 .PETITIONER APPEARED IN OPEN COURT AND VOLUNTARILY
2005-10-04 .DISMISSED INJUNCTION
2005-10-05 010.ORDER OF DISMISSAL OF TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR
2005-10-05 .PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE- PETITIONER
2005-10-05 .APPEARED AT THE HEARING BUT DESIRES TO DISMISS ACTION
2005-10-05 .FL# 557856


(All bolding by me)

Interesting that Crystal got a restraining order against Ron when he was out of town?

 

[Busylady]

Yes the judge signed off on it 9/22 I also understand many are dismissed, however the timing of it was the same time she filed an emergency order to pick up the children they go hand in hand. In addition, in the custody documents it is noted that the Judge reviewed the domestic violence file and found no evidence of any violence. IMO it is no different than the RO RC filed against her in 3/06 at the same time he filed an emergency return order for the children they go hand in hand.

I hear what you are trying to put out there busy...BUT a Judge had to sign off on the order for it to be granted in the first place...menaing he found merit in the petitioners claim. There are many cases of abused women dismissing injunctions against their abuser. She had a restraining order granted by a judge...with an order not to possess firearms.

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

Crystal had a TEMPORARY restraining order against 8 days against Ron. She got the order on 9/22/05. She showed up in Court and dismissed it voluntarily on 10/4/05.

To be clear, when a person files for a restraining order, TROs are almost always granted until the time the parties go to court for the final hearing. At that time both parties are heard and the judge determines whether a final order will be granted.

Plaintiffs SHEFFIELD CRYSTAL DIANE
Defendants CUMMINGS RONALD LEMYLES

Date Docket Description
2005-09-22 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
2005-09-22 002.EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION FOR CHILD PICK-UP ORDER
2005-09-22 003.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID.
2005-09-22 004.PHOTO COPY OF ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE
2005-09-22 005.PHOTO COPY OF ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE
2005-09-22 006.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE
2005-09-22 007.TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC
2005-09-22 .VIOLENCE-PARTIES TO APPEAR BEFORE EEH 10/5/05 @ 9:00AM
2005-09-22 .NO CUSTODY ORDERED AT THIS TIME
2005-09-22 .RT 10/7/05 UNSVD-RESPONDENT WAS OUT OF TOWN
2005-09-22 008.ORDER DENYING PETITIONERS EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION
2005-09-22 .FOR CHILD PICK UP ORDER
2005-10-04 009.FAMILY COURT MINUTES- BOTH PARTIES APPEARED,
2005-10-04 .PETITIONER APPEARED IN OPEN COURT AND VOLUNTARILY
2005-10-04 .DISMISSED INJUNCTION
2005-10-05 010.ORDER OF DISMISSAL OF TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR
2005-10-05 .PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE- PETITIONER
2005-10-05 .APPEARED AT THE HEARING BUT DESIRES TO DISMISS ACTION
2005-10-05 .FL# 557856


(All bolding by me)

Interesting that Crystal got a restraining order against Ron when he was out of town?

I wonder how the Process Server verified that Ron was out of town ?

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

Yes the judge signed off on it 9/22 I also understand many are dismissed, however the timing of it was the same time she filed an emergency order to pick up the children they go hand in hand. In addition, in the custody documents it is noted that the Judge reviewed the domestic violence file and found no evidence of any violence. IMO it is no different than the RO RC filed against her in 3/06 at the same time he filed an emergency return order for the children they go hand in hand.

Was this March 2006 TRO in Putnam County ?

 

[atherella]

I wonder how the Process Server verified that Ron was out of town ?

How do you know it was the process server that verified it?

BTW, do we know it is process servers that serve TROs in FL? Where I live, they can ONLY be served by a Sheriff. The Return of Service must then be filed with the Court. (I'm not saying that is necessarily the case in FL, to be clear).

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

Yes the judge signed off on it 9/22 I also understand many are dismissed, however the timing of it was the same time she filed an emergency order to pick up the children they go hand in hand. In addition, in the custody documents it is noted that the Judge reviewed the domestic violence file and found no evidence of any violence. IMO it is no different than the RO RC filed against her in 3/06 at the same time he filed an emergency return order for the children they go hand in hand.

MAGISTRATE PUGH: There is nothing in them, to my recollection, that would change my ruling. (Page 51)

BBM

IMO, this is not an indication that was no evidence of violence. We don't know what amount/type of violence would be required for the Magistrate to change his ruling.

http://www.fox30online.com/media/news/e/4/2/e42078af-0580-47ab-8b13-b60c9d0f9ac3/cummings1.pdf

 

[kamky]

You do understand that the term "suspect" has legal consequence once it's used in an official capacity by LE, don't you?
LE hardly ever call anyone a suspect anymore until there is an actual arrest to avoid any legal complications. This is why the term "person (or people) of interest" is used now rather than "suspect."

Thank you - this is interesting. Here's a handy website for everybody:
http://definitions.uslegal.com

The definition of Person of Interest (POI) is:

Unlike "suspect" and "material witness," "person of interest" has no legal definition, but generally refers to someone law enforcement authorities would like to speak with or investigate further in connection with a crime. It may be used, rather than calling the person a suspect, when they don't want their prime suspect to know they're watching him closely.

The definition of Suspect is:

In criminal law, a suspect is someone who is under suspicion, often formally announced as being under investigation by law enforcement officials. Probable cause for an arrest exists when the facts and circumstances within the arresting officer's knowledge are sufficient to warrant a prudent person to believe that a suspect has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime.
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I don't think that LE has used "POI" in this case, but wonder if they might eventually apply that term to Misty. Since LE has said that both Ron and Crystal are not "suspects", this is equivelent to them saying that neither is under suspicion. Not absolutely cleared, but it means they are not looking at the parents as the perp(s). Of course this could change, but to me it means that we should be focusing at other persons as candidates for Haleigh's abductor and not either Ron nor Crystal.

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

How do you know it was the process server that verified it?

BTW, do we know it is process servers that serve TROs in FL? Where I live, they can ONLY be served by a Sheriff. The Return of Service must then be filed with the Court. (I'm not saying that is necessarily the case in FL, to be clear).

Ok - how was Ron's unavailability verified by whomever ? :crazy:

 

[CrankyPants]

Crystal had a TEMPORARY restraining order against 8 days against Ron. She got the order on 9/22/05. She showed up in Court and dismissed it voluntarily on 10/4/05.

To be clear, when a person files for a restraining order, TROs are almost always granted until the time the parties go to court for the final hearing. At that time both parties are heard and the judge determines whether a final order will be granted.

Plaintiffs SHEFFIELD CRYSTAL DIANE
Defendants CUMMINGS RONALD LEMYLES

Date Docket Description
2005-09-22 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
2005-09-22 002.EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION FOR CHILD PICK-UP ORDER
2005-09-22 003.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID.
2005-09-22 004.PHOTO COPY OF ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE
2005-09-22 005.PHOTO COPY OF ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE
2005-09-22 006.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE
2005-09-22 007.TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC
2005-09-22 .VIOLENCE-PARTIES TO APPEAR BEFORE EEH 10/5/05 @ 9:00AM
2005-09-22 .NO CUSTODY ORDERED AT THIS TIME
2005-09-22 .RT 10/7/05 UNSVD-RESPONDENT WAS OUT OF TOWN
2005-09-22 008.ORDER DENYING PETITIONERS EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION
2005-09-22 .FOR CHILD PICK UP ORDER
2005-10-04 009.FAMILY COURT MINUTES- BOTH PARTIES APPEARED,
2005-10-04 .PETITIONER APPEARED IN OPEN COURT AND VOLUNTARILY
2005-10-04 .DISMISSED INJUNCTION
2005-10-05 010.ORDER OF DISMISSAL OF TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR
2005-10-05 .PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE- PETITIONER
2005-10-05 .APPEARED AT THE HEARING BUT DESIRES TO DISMISS ACTION
2005-10-05 .FL# 557856


(All bolding by me)

Interesting that Crystal got a restraining order against Ron when he was out of town?

Would the cancellation of this order be recorded in Baker County? I did find a cancellation due to "insufficient evidence" in the Baker County records website. (no link handy, but will find it again if anyone requests it)

 

[cajun]

Ok - how was Ron's unavailability verified by whomever ? :crazy:

I guess someone told the person doing the serving.

 

[cajun]

Would the cancellation of this order be recorded in Baker County? I did find a cancellation due to "insufficient evidence" in the Baker County records website. (no link handy, but will find it again if anyone requests it)

The one on Baker County's site is from March 06

Document Type: (ORD) ORDER Modified Date: 3/23/2006 4:07:24 PM Record Date : 3/23/2006 3:28:29 PM Event Date : Not Available Grantor: SHEFFIED CRYSTAL D (3/23/2006 4:07:24 PM)
Grantee: CUMMINGS RONALD L (3/23/2006 4:07:24 PM)
Book Type: OR Book / Page: 0 / 0 # of Pages: 1 Consideration: 0.00 Legal Legal: Address: Case Number: 02-2006-DR-115

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

I guess someone told the person doing the serving.

Yep - that's what I was thinking.

 

[Busylady]

The General Magistrate bases his finding on the testimony of the father's employment, the mother's unemployment, the children's missed medical appointments while in mother's care. The General Magistrate ha also considered the issue of domestic violence between the parties. The General Magistrate examined the injunction file, Crystal Sheffield and Roland Cummings, Case No 05-1354-FD (th Jud Cir., Putnam County, and concludes there is no competent evidence either presented at the December 27, 2005 court hearing or contained in the injunction court file to find that there was domestic violence between the parties.

As I am sure it will be asked, I am in the process of trying to scan this one page and upload it.

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

The General Magistrate bases his finding on the testimony of the father's employment, the mother's unemployment, the children's missed medical appointments while in mother's care. The General Magistrate ha also considered the issue of domestic violence between the parties. The General Magistrate examined the injunction file, Crystal Sheffield and Roland Cummings, Case No 05-1354-FD (th Jud Cir., Putnam County, and concludes there is no competent evidence either presented at the December 27, 2005 court hearing or contained in the injunction court file to find that there was domestic violence between the parties.

As I am sure it will be asked, I am in the process of trying to scan this one page and upload it.

Thank you, I look forward to reading it as it is certainly a much stronger statement on the magistrate's part than the one in either the Custody Hearing Transcript or the Magistrate's Report and Recommendations.

 

[Busylady]

Lets see if this worked

 

[Busylady]

Sorry so big don't know how else to do it.

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

Sorry so big don't know how else to do it.

No problem - it looks great, thanks. What is the name of this document please ?

 

[stilettos]

Crystal had a TEMPORARY restraining order against 8 days against Ron. She got the order on 9/22/05. She showed up in Court and dismissed it voluntarily on 10/4/05.

To be clear, when a person files for a restraining order, TROs are almost always granted until the time the parties go to court for the final hearing. At that time both parties are heard and the judge determines whether a final order will be granted.

Plaintiffs SHEFFIELD CRYSTAL DIANE
Defendants CUMMINGS RONALD LEMYLES

Date Docket Description
2005-09-22 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
2005-09-22 002.EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION FOR CHILD PICK-UP ORDER
2005-09-22 003.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID.
2005-09-22 004.PHOTO COPY OF ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE
2005-09-22 005.PHOTO COPY OF ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE
2005-09-22 006.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE
2005-09-22 007.TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC
2005-09-22 .VIOLENCE-PARTIES TO APPEAR BEFORE EEH 10/5/05 @ 9:00AM
2005-09-22 .NO CUSTODY ORDERED AT THIS TIME
2005-09-22 .RT 10/7/05 UNSVD-RESPONDENT WAS OUT OF TOWN
2005-09-22 008.ORDER DENYING PETITIONERS EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION
2005-09-22 .FOR CHILD PICK UP ORDER
2005-10-04 009.FAMILY COURT MINUTES- BOTH PARTIES APPEARED,
2005-10-04 .PETITIONER APPEARED IN OPEN COURT AND VOLUNTARILY
2005-10-04 .DISMISSED INJUNCTION
2005-10-05 010.ORDER OF DISMISSAL OF TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR
2005-10-05 .PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE- PETITIONER
2005-10-05 .APPEARED AT THE HEARING BUT DESIRES TO DISMISS ACTION
2005-10-05 .FL# 557856


(All bolding by me)

Interesting that Crystal got a restraining order against Ron when he was out of town?

Temporary restraining orders are not always granted. There is a review of the request for the order by a judge. If he or she finds it without merit, it is not granted. If they find the petitioner a reliable witness or there is additional witness or other evidence...it is granted. Many women dismiss the order of protection.

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

Was this March 2006 TRO in Putnam County ?

Bumping my own post. I'm not finding a TRO with Ron as the plaintiff in either Putnam or Baker County. Is there another County I should look in ? TIA

 

[cajun]

Bumping my own post. I'm not finding a TRO with Ron as the plaintiff in either Putnam or Baker County. Is there another County I should look in ? TIA

2006-03-02036.NOTICE OF HEARING-SET FOR 04/06/06 @ 3:00
2006-03-09037.EMERGENCY MOTION FOR RETURN OF CHILDREN - PETITIONER
2006-03-15038.NOTICE OF HEARING - HRG SET FOR 03/21/06 @ 10:30
2006-03-16039.SUBPOENA FOR HEARING - HRG SET FOR 03/21/06 @ 10:30
2006-03-16 SUBPOENA FOR: MICHAEL S WORD C/O WALMART DISTRIBUTION
2006-03-16 CENTER
2006-03-20040.NOTICE OF FILING TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR
2006-03-20 PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WITH MINOR
2006-03-20 CHILDREN
2006-03-21041.FAMILY COURT MINUTES
2006-03-22042.ORDER ON EMERGENCY MOTION FOR RETURN OF CHILDREN 2006-03-22043.NOTICE OF FILING TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR
2006-03-22 PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WITH MINOR
2006-03-22 CHILDREN

I don't know if busy has anymore than what is here since she has the court papers.