Ron C. # 12

[txsvicki]

The suspected paternity of the child could end up being important if Misty really is the key, because she seemed to think that Ron is the father. Misty argued with Amber over Ron and threatened to take the baby. Misty spent time with Amber that weekend before Haleigh went missing and Crystal's child support hearing was coming up that day. Misty had also showed Ron a fake pregnancy test. All these children and women in Ron's life and Misty's mindset during all the arguments could be very important.

 

[azwriter]

The suspected paternity of the child could end up being important if Misty really is the key, because she seemed to think that Ron is the father. Misty argued with Amber over Ron and threatened to take the baby. Misty spent time with Amber that weekend before Haleigh went missing and Crystal's child support hearing was coming up that day. Misty had also showed Ron a fake pregnancy test. All these children and women in Ron's life and Misty's mindset during all the arguments could be very important.

You probably don't need it txsvicki, but I agree with your post.
The backgounds as well as every little quirky thing about the principals of this case should be looked at. You never know when that one very important clue or lead can come from.
jmo

 

[Whisperer]

Yep, Gypsy....from day 1, he supported Misty...never once showing suspicion. When she changed the story, so did he.

...But he is a clever one...because many do not pick up on his antics. He looks puzzled when asked by NG how could the stories about the sleeping arrangements got so mixed up. He responds with, "MZ Nancy, I have no idea"..and looks puzzled. The truth is HE is the one the told the different stories...good grief!

....A co-master of the double speak. He shares the honor with TN..


JMO

 

[PorcineGranny]

The fact that Misty referred to Jordan as Ron's child after she spent time with Amber tells me that Amber confided that Jordan is Ron's child. Ron has not denied this. Why is it important? Its a character issue. Obviously Ron and Misty discussed this child, I can't see interest there if it wasn't Ron's. Thats just opinion. Misty threatened Amber about this child. Why would she unless she was pretty sure it was Ron's.
I think Amber has an agreement with Ron, this is pure speculation, that if she keeps her mouth shut about Jordan, she can say she doesn't know who the father is to the Authorities and he will make sure she gets (drugs) that she wants. This would greatly benefit Ron as normal child support would be until age 18, but likely would extend with this child because of his special needs. Just opinion, but I wanted to say why Jordan's paternity could be important and play a part here.

 

[Dr. Know?]

PorcineG, I am not always right, but I thought RC's name was on the this child's birth certificate. That's why it was brought to everyones attention. People were bad mouthing CS for not paying child support, but paternity of AB's child, as far as I know, was never sought by AB and there's rumors she didn't want to find out either so she would not have to deal with RC. Not a good time to bring it up either with Haleigh missing, a few arrests, and....maybe too many drugs? Don't know for sure. FWIW.

Oh my and JMO

 

[Whisperer]

You're right Dr. Know...Amber's head would be on the chopping block right besides Crystal's.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Pondering, this is a sad post. I'm sorry for the loss of your children. I can't even begin to know how parents can carry on after something so tragic.
Bless you.
azwriter

TY azwriter, it was many years ago, so while they will always live on in my heart, it's not upsetting to talk about anymore...sometimes it's just nice to be able to acknowledge them really.
As far as going on, I don't know....you just do because the alternative...well it's just not an option. (although if there were 3 strikes, Lord have mercy, I would be out) I guess that's one of the main reasons that I can not understand for the life of me how one can carry on not knowing if a child is theirs or not and maybe why I am so passionate about that subject, IDK.

One thing I do know though is apparently Kat's opinion is a WHOLE lot more important than mine cause while I feel that her/his post was imo extremely condescending and sarcastic to others that don't hold the same opinion/view as she/he does. I responded trying to explain why I thought "the subject' (not to be named by me again :runaway was very relevant since it speaks to Rons character (or as I feel the lack thereof..that's MOO and I own it) and we are here on Ron's thread... Yet, mine went poof and hers/his still stands....:waitasec:..Maybe it's just me and I need to take a much needed break from this case and come back when I have something intelligent to add. ..Obviously you know that none of that is directed to you az, just something I noticed while replying to you. :blowkiss:

With that I bid all a good night...I'll see ya on the flipside..:thumb:

 

[PorcineGranny]

Pondering, I know exactly how you feel, I have struggled with those feelings also, but please don't stop posting. I am a person that values your imput and I know others do also.We may post something a 1000 times thats deleted but its important to put it out there and maybe someone will think about it. Take care.

 

[Whisperer]

Yeah, Pondering, that goes for me too..er..what Porcine says. She can say things much better than I.

You are needed very much. I am very sad after reading here tonight...and it is not due to you or anyone personally. This case is getting to be old and worn..like me..

May Haleigh be found by somebody soon....or at least let someone tell what happened.

Goodnight Friend.

 

[curvecuti]

PorcineG, I am not always right, but I thought RC's name was on the this child's birth certificate. That's why it was brought to everyones attention. People were bad mouthing CS for not paying child support, but paternity of AB's child, as far as I know, was never sought by AB and there's rumors she didn't want to find out either so she would not have to deal with RC. Not a good time to bring it up either with Haleigh missing, a few arrests, and....maybe too many drugs? Don't know for sure. FWIW.

Oh my and JMO

If RC's name was on the birth certificate then I don't think there would be as big a problem on the issue if he is the father or not. I suspect that there were some fidlity issues and that's why there is a question of paternity. imo
And as far as bad mouthing CS for not paying support, I would bad mouth anyone who has a COURT ORDERED obligation to pay and did not! I would also badmouth anyone who wouldn't get out of the bed for their SICK child's Dr. appts! For some reason CS gets a pass for all her irresponsible actions.

 

[debs]

If RC's name was on the birth certificate then I don't think there would be as big a problem on the issue if he is the father or not. I suspect that there were some fidlity issues and that's why there is a question of paternity. imo
And as far as bad mouthing CS for not paying support, I would bad mouth anyone who has a COURT ORDERED obligation to pay and did not! I would also badmouth anyone who wouldn't get out of the bed for their SICK child's Dr. appts! For some reason CS gets a pass for all her irresponsible actions.

Gets a pass? Wow. No she doesn't. But since this is the Ron thread, the answer that "he was at work" is used often to defend his not taking his child to the doctor. Since Crystal was most likely pregnant with Jr at this time, or had recently given birth....where was Ronald to help get Haleligh to the doctor?

Many parents miss work for important visits. Why does RONALD get a pass on this all the time?

 

[curvecuti]

Gets a pass? Wow. No she doesn't. But since this is the Ron thread, the answer that "he was at work" is used often to defend his not taking his child to the doctor. Since Crystal was most likely pregnant with Jr at this time, or had recently given birth....where was Ronald to help get Haleligh to the doctor?

Many parents miss work for important visits. Why does RONALD get a pass on this all the time?

The Drs. visits I was referring to being missed were AFTER Ron and Crystal split up. CS stated herself, that she did not want to get out of bed to take poor little Haleigh to the Dr. Also according to CS testimony she was still abusing cocaine while pregnant w/ Jr., so I guess that is a possibilty of why she couldn't be bothered to take her while they were together. Ron had to go to work in order to support his children, cS was not paying support, so I can understand him not being able to miss work. I'm sure his family helped him out w/ taking Haleigh to the Dr. I guess CS didn't have anyone to help her.

 

[debs]

The Drs. visits I was referring to being missed were AFTER Ron and Crystal split up. CS stated herself, that she did not want to get out of bed to take poor little Haleigh to the Dr. Also according to CS testimony she was still abusing cocaine while pregnant w/ Jr., so I guess that is a possibilty of why she couldn't be bothered to take her while they were together. Ron had to go to work in order to support his children, cS was not paying support, so I can understand him not being able to miss work. I'm sure his family helped him out w/ taking Haleigh to the Dr. I guess CS didn't have anyone to help her.

I believe you're mistaken. Those visits she missed were when she and Ronald were living together. And according to her testimony, she'd stopped using when she found out she was pregnant and that Ronald kicked her in the head when she complained that he was still doing it in front of her instead of stopping with her. If his family helped out with taking Haleigh to the doctor, why were 12 appointments missed?

 

[curvecuti]

I believe you're mistaken. Those visits she missed were when she and Ronald were living together. And according to her testimony, she'd stopped using when she found out she was pregnant and that Ronald kicked her in the head when she complained that he was still doing it in front of her instead of stopping with her. If his family helped out with taking Haleigh to the doctor, why were 12 appointments missed?

I guess we would have to ask Crystal, since I was not there.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

I know in my home, my husband goes to work. He provides the vehicle, gas, insurance and monies to buy and pay for any sicknesses I handled with our children. I was a non-working woman, Blessed who could stay home and take care of that home and children.

I would be ashamed to know my husband couldn't leave our home in peace, go out and support his family, and know I would do what was needed to take care of our children in his absence. If there was a school, church or medical issue I felt his presence was needed during the course of a work day, he would then take it off. Which was a huge sacrifice financially as he's not salaried, but timed hourly. We are a team, he does his part, I do mine. If a woman doesn't want to get out of the bed to deal with taking her children to a doctor, simply don't have them. It's a no brainer. Or do what Crystal did, admit she didn't, and gave Haleigh to those who would see to her needs. Good for Crystal, I've seen some that would never admit to any wrong doing concerning their children. At least Crystal admitted it. So I can respect that.

 

[Malesherbes]

I know in my home, my husband goes to work. He provides the vehicle, gas, insurance and monies to buy and pay for any sicknesses I handled with our children. I was a non-working woman, Blessed who could stay home and take care of that home and children.

I would be ashamed to know my husband couldn't leave our home in peace, go out and support his family, and know I would do what was needed to take care of our children in his absence. If there was a school, church or medical issue I felt his presence was needed during the course of a work day, he would then take it off. Which was a huge sacrifice financially as he's not salaried, but timed hourly. We are a team, he does his part, I do mine. If a woman doesn't want to get out of the bed to deal with taking her children to a doctor, simply don't have them. It's a no brainer. Or do what Crystal did, admit she didn't, and gave Haleigh to those who would see to her needs. Good for Crystal, I've seen some that would never admit to any wrong doing concerning their children. At least Crystal admitted it. So I can respect that.

Well, this isnt the Crystal thread, or a personal thread about how blessed our lives are, but I will say that Crystal may have missed appointments but Ronald Cummings, the person this thread is about, was having sexual relations with a child who uses drugs and left his kids with her, and now Haleigh has been missing for 251 days, and Misty is the key to finding her, and Haleighs Daddy married her 31 days into Haleigh being missing, they were shoving cake in each others mouth while Haleigh could be getting tortured-

I would rather be known for missing appointments than something as hideous as what Haleighs father has done-

jmo

 

[curvecuti]

Well, this isnt the Crystal thread, or a personal thread about how blessed our lives are, but I will say that Crystal may have missed appointments but Ronald Cummings, the person this thread is about, was having sexual relations with a child who uses drugs and left his kids with her, and now Haleigh has been missing for 251 days, and Misty is the key to finding her, and Haleighs Daddy married her 31 days into Haleigh being missing, they were shoving cake in each others mouth while Haleigh could be getting tortured-

I would rather be known for missing appointments than something as hideous as what Haleighs father has done-

jmo

Using drugs while pregnant is pretty darn hideous.

 

[Malesherbes]

Using drugs while pregnant is pretty darn hideous.

How was she getting them? Was she working? Was she living with Ronald? Was this around the time he got busted with pot, coke and date rape drugs? If he was doing drugs in front of his pregnant girlfriend, is that ok? Yeah its hideous but lets not sit and pretend she was doing them behind Rons back and he was like busy volunteering for the local DARE program, they were together, some young couples do drugs together, thats life, you have a choice, either keep being a druggie or change, you know a messed up 20 something year old can become a pretty fabulous 30 or 40 year old, lots of people have dabbled in drugs at one time, at least Crystal is honest, if you ask Ron, hes basically never touched a drug in his life- Being honest and being able to admit past mistakes tells me a lot about a person-and is pertinent for human growth- I know people can change-

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Well, this isnt the Crystal thread, or a personal thread about how blessed our lives are, but I will say that Crystal may have missed appointments but Ronald Cummings, the person this thread is about, was having sexual relations with a child who uses drugs and left his kids with her, and now Haleigh has been missing for 251 days, and Misty is the key to finding her, and Haleighs Daddy married her 31 days into Haleigh being missing, they were shoving cake in each others mouth while Haleigh could be getting tortured-

I would rather be known for missing appointments than something as hideous as what Haleighs father has done- jmo

bbm, trying to understand your point in quoting me with this reply? It's very hard to discuss any of the main players in this case, and not get intertwined in conversation with someone they had such intimate relationships with. Crystal and Ron are the biological parents of Haleigh, discussing one or the other sometimes are the same subjects, since often they were together and made a common link with the birth of a child. But I will try to not mention Crystal at all on Ron's thread since you don't see the correlation or how I do form my opinion due to how I perceive a family works in the home. Somebody has to take the kids to the Doctor, which was my point, I did it since I was the one home and available.

To put blame on a soul, other than the one who may be torturing Haleigh as you put it, is just wrong. No action of these families, are done with the thoughts of Haleigh being tortured, as a matter of fact, probably the opposite. Their doing the things they are to keep their minds and thoughts off of such un-bearable thoughts.

 

[Malesherbes]

bbm, trying to understand your point in quoting me with this reply? It's very hard to discuss any of the main players in this case, and not get intertwined in conversation with someone they had such intimate relationships with. Crystal and Ron are the biological parents of Haleigh, discussing one or the other sometimes are the same subjects, since often they were together and made a common link with the birth of a child. But I will try to not mention Crystal at all on Ron's thread since you don't see the correlation or how I do form my opinion due to how I perceive a family works in the home. Somebody has to take the kids to the Doctor, which was my point, I did it since I was the one home and available.

To put blame on a soul, other than the one who may be torturing Haleigh as you put it, is just wrong. No action of these families, are done with the thoughts of Haleigh being tortured, as a matter of fact, probably the opposite. Their doing the things they are to keep their minds and thoughts off of such un-bearable thoughts.

Right, the only thing I was pointing out was that this is the Ronald Cummings thread and no where in your post did you mention him-

And I really dont think my post was wrong, its a fact if a pedo took Haleigh, they could be torturing her while Ronald was having his wedding day and flying out of the state, while this could have been happening- I mean we know while the wedding was going on searchers were combing the woods for his daughter- I find it very unsettling-