Ron C. # 12

[curvecuti]

But Whisperer, you're forgetting - Ron married Misty because it's what Haleigh would have wanted. Now that they are divorced, I don't know what they are going to tell Haleigh once she is found. Maybe that Haleigh was wrong - see how stupid this sounds.

I would imagine he would tell her how much he loves her and how overjoyed he is she is home. IMO.

 

[azwriter]

Again, how do we know he did not do this? LE has not released any information from any interviews conducted. So, to say it has not been done or to say it has, is at best a guess.

Hi, in my post I didn't state whether Ron did or did not tell LE his list of suspects. My post was just an attempt to answer your question as to what else could Ron tell them since he was at work when his daughter disappeared. You asked, I answered.

 

[elle1919]

What is "distasteful" isn't AH's reporting, it is the continued questionable judgment and priorities of Ron despite his daughter's disappearance. Ron creates and perpetuates the circuslike atmosphere all by himself and his actions have frankly warranted the scrutiny of LE and media alike. I stand by my opinions... and no amount of chiding and chastising is apt to change those where Ron's character or his conduct is concerned. JMO

arrot:

Even though you didn't quote my post I have a feeling that you are responding to me, if you weren't please accept my apologies. However, because I was the only person that used the word distasteful in my post above I find it reasonable to conclude that you were speaking to me. I understand that you do not find Art Harris's reporting distasteful, In all honesty, I sometimes do. Especially the article's that have no known source other than "a source close to the investigation" or "sources tell me". Art has posted a number of articles, such as the article on Misty's family speaks out, where he leaves no room for the reader to speculate on his source.

As for trying to change your opinions in this case by chiding and chastising, well...I sincerely apologize if that is what you thought my contributions to this forum were trying to do. I would never expect anyone to see things the way I do and if my intention was to sway the general consensus of the forum I would have given up and left the forum many months ago. I am here for Haleigh and my only goal is to discover the truth about where she might be and what happened to her on the night of February 9th 2009. I have not arrived at the conclusion that Ronald or Crystal were involved, however I do seek the truth, and if the truth means that in the end one of them are guilty, I will still seek justice for Haleigh in the strictest and most punishing form available.

 

[kiki the parrot]

It is this father's actions, before, during, and after his daughter's disappearance which I find distasteful and even reprehensible. I am not confused and am not going to subvert the real issues nor become sidetracked by a journalist. We seem to be selective in which facts for which we're willing to credit or discredit the same journalists. And yes I do think, as w the litany of other well-established differences, it is fruitless to so doggedly pursue challenging another's clear position. LE hasn't been distracted by and has long since lost interest in Crystal--and so have I. JMO

arrot:

 

[Whisperer]

Elle, it might help if you find Shoemaker's statement that RC is going to support Misty 100%.

RC said that himself, when repeatedly questioned about his wife failing a poly. "Well, Mz Nancy, till I get physical evidence, I am supporting her". He refused to comment at all on anything negative about M and involvement. He evaded and deflected all questions.

I don't know or understand how you think he wasn't supporting or covering for her from Day 1 till now. Maybe you could point me to the things he has said where he believes she is involved in the crime?

 

[Whisperer]

ELLE,

You just said Ron lives by his own rules...Your words were:

. There are no excuses for bad behavior, period. However we are talking about a man that has lived life by his own rules.



Now, was this an excuse for his bad behavior because you pulled the sentence out of my paragraph as a reason that you don't ever give excuses for bad behavior?

It is taking way too much effort to go through all these explanations of your reasoning. This is my first attempt and I am already getting confused. Maybe I need coffee....haven't had any yet.

 

[elle1919]

Elle, it might help if you find Shoemaker's statement that RC is going to support Misty 100%.

RC said that himself, when repeatedly questioned about his wife failing a poly. "Well, Mz Nancy, till I get physical evidence, I am supporting her". He refused to comment at all on anything negative about M and involvement. He evaded and deflected all questions.

I don't know or understand how you think he wasn't supporting or covering for her from Day 1 till now. Maybe you could point me to the things he has said where he believes she is involved in the crime?

I haven't heard Ronald cover for her ever. If you have heard him cover for her perhaps you would be kind enough to post the links to those instances. Take the TODAY show for instance, she was searching his face for answers and he wouldn't even look at her. I haven't seen him cover for her. I have never understood the marriage because I never had the opinion that Ronald loved Misty.But, that is just my opinion and my opinion has never changed.

I think Ronald was lying when he said he married Misty because it was what Haleigh would have wanted. I thought that was crazy.Then Tim Miller reports that Ronald thought that Haleigh was gone because she walked in and caught Misty doing something she shouldn't have seen. Then I knew that Ronald lied about why he married Misty. I believe he married Misty because in the days RIGHT AFTER Haleigh went missing Misty went back to her family and I believe Ronald was afraid Misty would try to split. The whole Croslin family wanted to leave Satsuma, we have seen that over the past few weeks.

No, I don't believe that Ronald was covering for Misty, but I respect your opinion that you DO believe that. While you remember hearing Ronald saying that he was going to support her until he had evidence, I don't recall him using those words. They are divorced now, what does that tell you? It tells me that he gave up trying to find evidence. Perhaps now he will leave the investigation to Law Enforcement.

 

[elle1919]

ELLE,

You just said Ron lives by his own rules...Your words were:

. There are no excuses for bad behavior, period. However we are talking about a man that has lived life by his own rules.



Now, was this an excuse for his bad behavior because you pulled the sentence out of my paragraph as a reason that you don't ever give excuses for bad behavior?

It is taking way too much effort to go through all these explanations of your reasoning. This is my first attempt and I am already getting confused. Maybe I need coffee....haven't had any yet.

EXACTLY....I don't know why you are so confused......lol. He does live by his own rules. He does as he wishes, without thought of how his choices are going to affect the long term. I am sorry you are confused. I contribute to these threads for my own enjoyment, I am honest in all that I say and I am not intentionally trying to confuse anyone.

What excuses have I given for any of his actions? Please tell me.

 

[Whisperer]

Hi Elle,

Your words:
... There are no excuses for bad behavior, period. However we are talking about a man that has lived life by his own rules.

Your words. You extracted a sentence from my post about people making excuses for RC and his bad behavior. If you notice, you used the word, "However" in your remark. You bolded this sentence. By using this word, it sent a message to me that the words after "however" is an excuse. Since you highlighted my sentence and explained your reasons, I have to assume you disagree with my remark that some people make excuses for RC's bad behavior....no?

 

[Whisperer]

So IOW, Elle, you believe RC married Misty to "keep her close"? So FDLE were not able to locate her wherever she went? He never took her in to the LE and made her talk to them. They both secluded themselves. As far as divorce, we can talk about reasons later as I have to leave right now.

As far as the Marriage and his reasons:
....Couldn't have anything to do with the felony he would be facing for sleeping with a 16 yr old when he was 25, could it? Florida has very strict laws about this and he would have received SERIOUS time in a State Prison.

 

[elle1919]

Hi Elle,

Your words:
... There are no excuses for bad behavior, period. However we are talking about a man that has lived life by his own rules.

Your words. You extracted a sentence from my post about people making excuses for RC and his bad behavior. If you notice, you used the word, "However" in your remark. You bolded this sentence. By using this word, it sent a message to me that the words after "however" is an excuse. Since you highlighted my sentence and explained your reasons, I have to assume you disagree with my remark that some people make excuses for RC's bad behavior....no?

I am not going to get into a discussion about using a part of speech wrong Whisperer. Would you be happy if I went and took the word out of my post. If I used the word However, wrong please forgive me. I will go back and correct my sentence for you.

 

[kiki the parrot]

It is exactly right whisp. I was long ago taught that using the all too familiar "however," "but," "yet," etc cancels out everything that precedes it lol.
Personally I am thru making excuses for this adult father and his irresponsible behavior.
arrot:

 

[elle1919]

So IOW, Elle, you believe RC married Misty to "keep her close"? So FDLE were not able to locate her wherever she went? He never took her in to the LE and made her talk to them. They both secluded themselves. As far as divorce, we can talk about reasons later as I have to leave right now.

As far as the Marriage and his reasons:
....Couldn't have anything to do with the felony he would be facing for sleeping with a 16 yr old when he was 25, could it? Florida has very strict laws about this and he would have received SERIOUS time in a State Prison.

I do not feel Ronald Cummings had any faith in Law Enforcement to find his child. No I do not.

I believe that RC married Misty because he thought she might have information about what truly occurred on the night Haleigh went missing coupled with my opinion that Ronald had no faith in Law Enforcement to find his child. You mention the age difference between Ronald and Misty and I think that should have been an issue taken up by the parent or guardian of Misty Croslin. Considering that her own mother and father and brother and sister in laws did not have an issue with Ronald's age why should I concern myself with it? Misty was not 13. Her parents allowed her to quit school and move out of their home and I am assuming engage in sexual activity long before Ronald Cummings took her into his home. A child is born to a parent for a reason, If they are going to arrest Ronald for statutory rape then they also should arrest her parents and her family that did not report this act to Law Enforcement. JMO

I have no allegiance to anyone but Haleigh Cummings. Perhaps my statements and posts might confuse those of you that have already decided who is guilty for her abduction, stranger/ non-stranger, I have not decided who is guilty and only claim to be of the opinion that Ronald and Crystal the biological parents of Haleigh Cummings are not involved.

As far as the statutory rape or any other alleged crime that might be associated with this case, Law Enforcement has said the are well aware of the various crimes that are associated with this case, underage smoking and the rest...but they are focusing on finding Haleigh. I can find the link to that direct statement if you would like.

 

[cajun]

Florida must not be very strict or Greg P would be in jail for sleeping with Misty.

 

[elle1919]

I don't think it has anything to do with Florida being strict cajun, personally I am sure that Law Enforcement would love to have the knowledge of everything they know now without having Haleigh go missing. I am glad they consider finding her more important than making any other arrests.

 

[atherella]

Florida must not be very strict or Greg P would be in jail for sleeping with Misty.

And the father of NayNay's baby is like 48 year's old! She is 19. I don't recall how old NayNay's baby is, but she is over a year old, so NayNay was around 17 or so getting pregnant by a man that was over 45.

I just do not think that this is at the top of the list of PCSO's list of crimes they are trying to bring people in for. Parents need to take some responsibility for THEIR minor children!

Something tells me when HaLeigh went missing that Ron and Misty's relationship was NOT high on their list of priorities. HALEIGH and FINDING HALEIGH is what SHOULD be important.

 

[Flossie JMO]

And the father of NayNay's baby is like 48 year's old! She is 19. I don't recall how old NayNay's baby is, but she is over a year old, so NayNay was around 17 or so getting pregnant by a man that was over 45.

I just do not think that this is at the list of PCSO's list of crimes they are trying to bring people in for. Parents need to take some responsibility for THEIR minor children!

Something tells me when HaLeigh went missing that Ron and Misty's relationship was NOT high on their list of priorities. HALEIGH and FINDING HALEIGH is what SHOULD be important.

bbm AMEN

 

[debs]

And the father of NayNay's baby is like 48 year's old! She is 19. I don't recall how old NayNay's baby is, but she is over a year old, so NayNay was around 17 or so getting pregnant by a man that was over 45.

I just do not think that this is at the list of PCSO's list of crimes they are trying to bring people in for. Parents need to take some responsibility for THEIR minor children!

Something tells me when HaLeigh went missing that Ron and Misty's relationship was NOT high on their list of priorities. HALEIGH and FINDING HALEIGH is what SHOULD be important.

But it was high on the list of Ron and Misty's priorities, so much so that they had a public engagement and wedding they sold exclusive video rights to. It should have been about finding Haleigh; I agree.

 

[stilettos]

I do not feel Ronald Cummings had any faith in Law Enforcement to find his child. No I do not.

I believe that RC married Misty because he thought she might have information about what truly occurred on the night Haleigh went missing coupled with my opinion that Ronald had no faith in Law Enforcement to find his child. You mention the age difference between Ronald and Misty and I think that should have been an issue taken up by the parent or guardian of Misty Croslin. Considering that her own mother and father and brother and sister in laws did not have an issue with Ronald's age why should I concern myself with it? Misty was not 13. Her parents allowed her to quit school and move out of their home and I am assuming engage in sexual activity long before Ronald Cummings took her into his home. A child is born to a parent for a reason, If they are going to arrest Ronald for statutory rape then they also should arrest her parents and her family that did not report this act to Law Enforcement. JMO

I have no allegiance to anyone but Haleigh Cummings. Perhaps my statements and posts might confuse those of you that have already decided who is guilty for her abduction, stranger/ non-stranger, I have not decided who is guilty and only claim to be of the opinion that Ronald and Crystal the biological parents of Haleigh Cummings are not involved.

As far as the statutory rape or any other alleged crime that might be associated with this case, Law Enforcement has said the are well aware of the various crimes that are associated with this case, underage smoking and the rest...but they are focusing on finding Haleigh. I can find the link to that direct statement if you would like.

So you are thinking that Ronald Cummings places more trust in his own vast intellect and detetive skills than the FBI, FDLE and PCSO? I call that over confident in very little and delusional.

 

[atherella]

But it was high on the list of Ron and Misty's priorities, so much so that they had a public engagement and wedding they sold exclusive video rights to. It should have been about finding Haleigh; I agree.

The attention was taken away from HALEIGH prior to the engagement and wedding. How about back in February when Crystal publicly accused Ron of abuse. That was the start of the CIRCUS that this case has become. That was when it stopped being about HaLeigh.

Let's be clear, I do not care for the marriage, but that did not stop anyone from finding HaLeigh. That did not keep the media talking for months on end the way the abuse allegations did.

People keep forgetting HaLeigh in all the DRAMA surrounding her family. SAD!