Ron. C. #13

[nomoresorrow]

I've got a question for RC. What if.........just what if.......since the family believes so strongly that Haleigh's still alive......what would have happened......if by some miracle, Haleigh had come home on Thanksgiving Day and Daddy wasn't there?

Ronald knows better than anyone, HaLeigh isn't coming home. JMHO -

 

[Whisperer]

Nice touch there also, mentioning Crystal. Some will think she really means it. What rc did today should make the people who call him the greatest, caring, loving FATHER and the most wonderful provider should perk up their ears.!

.....................but that is not the agenda and I know it. I found it interesting when Crystal and marie started the Haleigh's Closet idea. People were saying how thoughtful that was and it was being done on her birthday. Next thing we read (after the good press) was BAM! A Ballooon Ralley for Haleigh sponsered by the Cummings clan. I am on to the tactics and the game playing. TN is kept up-to-date and counters any good press about CS and does damage control when bad is out there about rc.

.....in fact TN's words reminds me of something that was run through shoemaker before released.

 

[elle1919]

I have read all the articles and I even went over and read the messages posted at that BNN place. Nowhere in anything I read did I see where it stated that Jr was not with his father. Why is everyone assuming Ronald and Jr were not together?

 

[Whisperer]

(BBM)


Ronald sure wants to put/get HaLeigh out of "his heart" doesn't he? I hope the guilt eats him alive! JMHO -

Nice thought there....but narcissist NEVER experience guilt. Wish they could, it would sure make some of us feel better, but sorry, we will never see that.

 

[Whisperer]

Shame TN didn't mention WHERE they had Thanksgiving. Sounds like her place in Fruitland Park to me though. So rc didn't want to be with his mother or gm for Thanksgiving...nice touch! Sykes has already fed out excuses for him, anyone else?

 

[PorcineGranny]

If he has to have that leg amputated because it reminds him of Haleigh, he really will be out of work for a long time. I mean he had to leave the trailer because it reminded him of her, he can't work because of the whole situation and he can't be around family who remind him of Haleigh. I think the leg is the next thing to go. Its sorta scary to think Jr. may remind him of Haleigh...... JMO

 

[Baxter]

I have read all the articles and I even went over and read the messages posted at that BNN place. Nowhere in anything I read did I see where it stated that Jr was not with his father. Why is everyone assuming Ronald and Jr were not together?

Read the article that the holidays are going to be hard for the family. I think Theresa made a post on there.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Pondering, I can see where you have poured your heart into this post especially considering you speak from experience of having lost a child. Thank you for that and I'm so sorry for your loss.
I read your post twice and agree with all your thoughts and questions regarding Ron's latest behavior. I just wanted to add that what really worries me is if it's true he has difficulty being around family because they remind him of Haleigh, how does he cope with having Jr. with him? Would the memory of Haleigh ever cause him to forsake his son or stay away from Jr to make it easier for himself. Poor Ron - NO. Poor Butterbean - YES.
jmo

TY az and ITA, I am really worried about butterbean, but I don't believe that Ron 'copes' better not being around his family because of memories of HaLeigh. It's MOO that he is going to do what makes him happiest, anybody else be damned and sadly that includes Jr. I don't say that to slam Ron az, honestly I don't. That's just the kind of person I see him as and I have from the beginning and to date he has never done anything to make me feel any differently or see him in a different light.
Of course now that we have reason to believe that Crystal's problems may be bigger than I had originally thought, that certainly doesn't help to ease my mind about butterbeans future as well. I really do feel that GGMS and perhaps TN to a lesser degree are the ones that took care of HaLeigh and Jr for the most part anyway (and prolly still is the main caretaker for butterbean even now) but still az....even if I didn't believe that Ron had something to do with HaLeigh's disappearance (which I do) where is his paternal instinct? Ron is not a child, he has to know how important his presence and just plain stability is to Jr and this is what he does?? :waitasec: So, I really have to believe that he doesn't care...at least not as much as he cares about himself and his needs..and I won't even begin to speculate what I believe those 'needs' to be..

You're right tho, I have no doubt that the fact that I have lost a child colors my view on a lot of things differently than some. Truth is that I also know that after the loss of a child you just can not imagine that you could lose a 2nd baby, not if there is a God in Heaven right? I do believe there is a God and that all things do happen for a reason but it took me a long time to get there. Ron, Crystal and their families have much to be thankful for, they still have BUTTERBEAN and if the 2 of them can't do anything else they need to be rallying around him and putting his needs above all else (aside from helping LE :snooty Unless I'm mistaken, Ron is not working is he? What could he have to do more important than butterbean? (especially if he feels that there is nothing else that he can add to the investigation) It's not the fact that Ron spent 'a' day w/friends that really disturbs me, nothing wrong with that as long as Jr was taken care of. I couldn't leave him, maybe I'm just funny like that...) But to spend THANKSGIVING w/friends, and apparently Jr wasn't invited, IDK? So you spend the 1st T-D that your daughter is missing without your son and away from your family and what GGMS says is their usual Thanksgiving Day rounds? Because they make you think of your daughter? Heaven forbid that happen, wouldn't want to do that now would we? That doesn't sound odd or anything does it? :banghead:

 

[Whisperer]

about as odd as him marrying the person that could be responsible for Haleigh missing.

 

[Busylady]

I have looked and looked and read all the BNN articles and TN comments and I find no where it states that JR was not with RC. GGMS didnt have plans, TN states she stayed home crying so if JR was not with RC who did he have a huge feast and lots of fun with? From reading I came away thinking that RC and JR celebrated Thanksgiving with friends, JR had a huge feast and alot of fun, while TN and GGMS did not celebrate the holiday. Could it be that RC chose this route because as the article states JR needs to have some normalcy in his life so they went where there was a holiday celebration vs staying at home with no celebration and lots of sadness?

There are alot of things to fault RC for I just don't think this is one of them IMO.

 

[Whisperer]

Why am I not surprised?

 

[Pondering Mind]

I have looked and looked and read all the BNN articles and TN comments and I find no where it states that JR was not with RC. GGMS didnt have plans, TN states she stayed home crying so if JR was not with RC who did he have a huge feast and lots of fun with? From reading I came away thinking that RC and JR celebrated Thanksgiving with friends, JR had a huge feast and alot of fun, while TN and GGMS did not celebrate the holiday. Could it be that RC chose this route because as the article states JR needs to have some normalcy in his life so they went where there was a holiday celebration vs staying at home with no celebration and lots of sadness?

There are alot of things to fault RC for I just don't think this is one of them IMO.

Busy, I don't wander far from WS and know much of nothing about BNN but this is cajuns post from the A. Sykes thread. bbm~


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originally posted by cajun~

Do you really think Mrs. Sykes would be alone, she does have other family around,LOL

TN posted on BNN, and nope can't link to their site, how they spent the day and Jr. had a nice time and I'm glad he did. I hope Crystal and her family had a really nice Thanksgiving day too.



So IDK, why would TN post this above on BNN and then post what you read as well? :waitasec: And of course GGMS says that they were not together, so I guess they were not. I would love nothing more than to find out that Ron took butterbean with him and I did ask cajun whether TN had said whether he did or not, but she either doesn't know or hasn't seen the post. Anyway, I'm thinking that he didn't Busy, but I would LOVE to be wrong.

 

[atherella]

Why am I not surprised?

What are you not surprised about, Whisperer? :waitasec:

 

[Busylady]

Maybe it is late and I am missing something. I read TN post on BNN about JR having a wonderful holiday and that she herself stayed home. GGMS stated that she might go by her daughters house but wasn't sure had no definite plans. I just can't find anywhere that says RC didn't have JR with him. People seem so positive that he didn't so I have reread and reread and can't find anything that indicates that.

Busy, I don't wander far from WS and know much of nothing about BNN but this is cajuns post from the A. Sykes thread. bbm~


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originally posted by cajun~

Do you really think Mrs. Sykes would be alone, she does have other family around,LOL

TN posted on BNN, and nope can't link to their site, how they spent the day and Jr. had a nice time and I'm glad he did. I hope Crystal and her family had a really nice Thanksgiving day too.



So IDK, why would TN post this above on BNN and then post what you read as well? :waitasec: And of course GGMS says that they were not together, so I guess they were not. I would love nothing more than to find out that Ron took butterbean with him and I did ask cajun whether TN had said whether he did or not, but she either doesn't know or hasn't seen the post. Anyway, I'm thinking that he didn't Busy, but I would LOVE to be wrong.

 

[Whisperer]

I don't care if he took jr or not. RC should have spent the holiday with his family. He is out living it up with "better" people, I suppose. He is an opportunist. The people who have been protecting him for nine months, feeding him and clothing him are not the ones he chooses to be with on thanksgiving. It is party time for rc. LET those sad people who are missing Haleigh stay home and be sad...he says. I am going to a feast with "friends".

Having Haleigh disappear seems to have put him higher on the social register. He bragged before he had no friends and sounded glad about it too.

.....come think of it, it worked out like that for the Anthonys too.

 

[Busylady]

I guess the bottom line for me is - the holidays are a rough time and I am thankful that JR had a good time whether it was with his dad and friends, or with other family members. The important thing is JR he s 4 yrs old and doesnt understand all this, if he got to have a day of fun then I think that is wonderful.

 

[Whisperer]

I am not sure that is exactly what rc had in mind BL. I think you are telling us that he was just thinking about his precious son's interest. Better not have them around family. He has better places to take him....is my interpretation. Plus, if he took him, he might get bonus points for being a grieving father....that can never hurt, especially if he is trying to impress a lady....it could happen!

Never hurts for rc to have too many admirers, I guess. There are plenty that aren't though, with good reason. While you assume rc did this all for jr, most people know better.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Busy I agree and disagree with you, lol. The most important thing is Jr's well being and I too hope that he had a funfilled day Turkey Day that was as normal as it could possibly be. It really doesn't matter to me whether Ron spent the holiday with family or friends as long as Jr was with his father. I am only going by what I gathered reading cajun's post and the article quoting GGMS. I just have a feeling that he wasn't with him (aka jmo ) and that is heartbreaking to me if that's the case. I also think right or wrong that since TN and family read and post at different forums that if Jr was with Ron that day, they would have found someway to get that info out because I think it does show Ron in a very bad light, but then again thats' jmho.

What I disagree with is that Jr is only 4 yrs old and doesn't understand all this, I promise you that (speaking from a somewhat similar experience) if he has the intelligence of an average 4 y/o then I believe that he understands WAY more than we realize.

 

[Busylady]

Thats the point Whisper I am not assuming anything. There are several pages of post about how awful it is of RC to not be with his son on Thanksgiving day - I simply cannot find anything that states he was not. There are plenty of things to fault RC for, I am just not going to assume anything to just so I can add to the list of things RC has done wrong. All that matters to me is that JR got to have a good day.

I am not sure that is exactly what rc had in mind BL. I think you are telling us that he was just thinking about his precious son's interest. Better not have them around family. He has better places to take him....is my interpretation. Plus, if he took him, he might get bonus points for being a grieving father....that can never hurt, especially if he is trying to impress a lady....it could happen!

Never hurts for rc to have too many admirers, I guess. There are plenty that aren't though, with good reason. While you assume rc did this all for jr, most people know better.

 

[Pondering Mind]

I am not sure that is exactly what rc had in mind BL. I think you are telling us that he was just thinking about his precious son's interest. Better not have them around family. He has better places to take him....is my interpretation. Plus, if he took him, he might get bonus points for being a grieving father....that can never hurt, especially if he is trying to impress a lady....it could happen!

Never hurts for rc to have too many admirers, I guess. There are plenty that aren't though, with good reason. While you assume rc did this all for jr, most people know better.

Or Whisperer, maybe the tension in that home is getting very thick. Perhaps we are seeing cracks around the surface, hmmm. Although it could just be that my eyelids are getting so heavy that it just looks like cracks. :crazy:

Seriously something has to give soon... Nite all, 7am comes oh so early, blah...