Ron C. #5

[BetsyB]

I believe he does love his children, and I believe he was doing the best he could to raise them in a comfortable, loving home. Haleigh's pictures tell the real story of how much she was loved. Surmise all you want, but one look at Haleigh's pictures with her Dad tell me those two love each other.

Respectfully snipped, for length.

I agree that Ron loved/loves his children---there is no doubt about it. But love and abuse are not mutually exclusive.

We all do the best we know how as parents. In some cases, "the best" is not very good.

I think that is the case with RC. His best was no good at all.

 

[tehcloser]

My understanding of why MC called 911 was because Ron had not gotten home yet. She had called Ron and said Haleigh was missing, and Ron asked why the hell are you calling me, call 911. Which she did and as she was on the phone with 911, Ron arrived at home.
As for Ron's continual statement that he doesn't know what happened, he was at work -- had he done as some have suggested and simply said No comment, or had he invoked the 5th, I'm sure he would have many more detractors saying he had something to hide. When something of this magnitude comes to light on your frontdoor step, you can make all the assumptions you want to about how differently you would react, about how much more intelligent you might sound when being interviewed by some scummy reporter (no names, please!), or about how you would or wouldn't do something. My own personal perspective is that you have no idea how would react until you have faced it. I'm giving Ron the benefit of the doubt because he was at work. I don't think he hired anyone to kidnap his child. I don't think he pissed off some drug dealer and said drug dealer stole his child. Drug dealers don't kidnap children. Please don't judge Ron too harshly. He is not the brightest bulb in the marquee, but I believe he does love his children, and I believe he was doing the best he could to raise them in a comfortable, loving home. Haleigh's pictures tell the real story of how much she was loved. Surmise all you want, but one look at Haleigh's pictures with her Dad tell me those two love each other.

To the bolded part, iirc Misty did not call LE untill Ron arrived home. Ron stated she was at the door when he arrived home and that's how he knew something was wrong.

 

[azwriter]

The reporter asks Ron if any other children were in the home, he answers "yes", that his son was there. Reporter asks, "and he (Junior) was fine, right?" At 3:27 Ron replies, "yes.... imagine that." Wonder what he meant by that? Sounded strange imo.


"She's the most well-mannered child I've ever had" also sounds weird to me.


Wonder why he didn't answer, or at least look at his cell phone to see who was calling?

About Ron's comment "Yes..Imagine that." I believe Ron said this because he was shocked his other child, who was asleep in the same room and not far from his daughter, was not taken or even physically harmed.
I don't see anything odd about that statement. He could have said outloud what he has been thinking all along - puzzled as to what had happened.
It's just my guess for the moment.

 

[Donjeta]

What strikes me about this video, besides the things that have been mentioned, is that his wailing demeanour in the beginning is quite different from what we've seen of him in other interviews, and even here it changes quite suddenly. The falling on the ground is unusual. In other interviews he seems to be in control of his emotions most of the time. After he stands up again he's feeling sorry about himself going to work and trying to support his family. He says "I'd give my life for my child's life back." This is a red flag for me. Does he know that his child is dead? I know, the chances are that a missing child may be dead and the relatives may be fearing the worst but this is an early interview to have completely lost all hope that she'll be found alive. Why is it so important to mention her well manners several times? Most people desperately want even their obnoxious brats back so their child's manners are usually not what parents of a missing child think about.

 

[claudicici]

...I think he emphasizes Haleighs manners because all along he feels belittled by the media as in where he lives,how he takes care of his children,etc....I feel that is why it is important to him to mention Haleigh had manners !

 

[Donjeta]

...I think he emphasizes Haleighs manners because all along he feels belittled by the media as in where he lives,how he takes care of his children,etc....I feel that is why it is important to him to mention Haleigh had manners !

It might be, good point. This is a very early interview though and I would think that he hadn't had the negative experiences of being belittled yet at this time, so do you think he's anticipating?

 

[claudicici]

..yes,I think they both were aware of it from the beginning,like misty emphasizing "I took Hayleigh to sleep at 8pm because it was a school night.....things like that...I think they are very aware from the beginning how people might look at them...or like TN mentioning on Nancy grace that clothes were on the floor most of the time and being really ashamed and self concious about it and then nancy eased her mind by saying clothes are on the floor in most american homes..

 

[Litany]

I don't find it odd at all that he would make the mental jump almost immediately that some pedophile/abductor could have taken his daughter and killed her. In central Florida, if you watch the news at all, it is a parent's worst nightmare and seemingly becoming more and more frequent of an occurance. It's becoming rare down here to even see children playing outside. Carly, Jessica, Trenton, Caylee... in the last few years and those are just the high profile cases. There have been several more during that time period. Most of us are scared. Take a look at the sex offender registry, we have reason to be. I would make the same mental jump and fear the worst while also trying desperately to cling to some shred of hope but it would be difficult. I think this is also why he is so irratic in his behavior. He is basically running the scenerios through his mind and because of that is having to possibly accept the death of his daughter, even if he doesn't know for sure what happened to her. How would you act? I wouldn't be able to help but think of what the outcome was for those other children and the horrifying thought of what my own daughter could be going through. I would fall on the ground, stand up, make threats, rip my damned hair out and perhaps a second later with the realization that maybe, just maybe she is ok, pull it together again. I don't know if Ron has anything to do with Haleigh being missing but the way he behaved just seems like a Dad out of his mind because his daughter is missing.

 

[wam1174]

Most of us are scared. Take a look at the sex offender registry, we have reason to be.

Snipped and bold by me

Agreed, there are two RSO's that live on the same street I do, one within 1000yds of my home and another roughly 2000yds. What really pizzes me off is that the school board decided that my children should have to walk past both of them to reach their bus stop. After raising mortal hell with them and bringing the flyers into the schools office then they decided that my 6 year old would be able to catch the bus at my driveway, my 13 yeard old's bus stop is yet to have been moved. Of course I drive her to the bus stop and pick her up from there daily, absolutely no matter what.

 

[BetsyB]

...I think he emphasizes Haleighs manners because all along he feels belittled by the media as in where he lives,how he takes care of his children,etc....I feel that is why it is important to him to mention Haleigh had manners !

I think he emphasizes her manners because he is a strict disciplinarian with unrealistic expectations of very, very small children. He believes others share his priorities when, in fact, "well-mannered" is not what most of us expect to hear when a kindergartener is described. We expect to hear, "funny, giggly, playful, smart as a whip, snuggly, cuddly, Daddy's girl, Mama's girl, really girly, imaginative, sometimes naughty with her brother, great at hide-and-seek, really good at Go Fish..." etc. We DON'T expect to hear, "She was the most well-mannered child I ever had."

It stands out as an odd response because it IS an odd response.

 

[PinkyPoo]

I think he emphasizes her manners because he is a strict disciplinarian with unrealistic expectations of very, very small children. He believes others share his priorities when, in fact, "well-mannered" is not what most of us expect to hear when a kindergartener is described. We expect to hear, "funny, giggly, playful, smart as a whip, snuggly, cuddly, Daddy's girl, Mama's girl, really girly, imaginative, sometimes naughty with her brother, great at hide-and-seek, really good at Go Fish..." etc. We DON'T expect to hear, "She was the most well-mannered child I ever had."

It stands out as an odd response because it IS an odd response.

Your assuming an awful lot. Unless your in his head you don't know what he thinks at all.

 

[debs]

Your assuming an awful lot. Unless your in his head you don't know what he thinks at all.

Ron calls himself a strict disciplinarian. That's not getting inside his head at all. Further, one can infer what that means quite readily enough, especially when applied to two little children aged 5 and just turned 4. In fact, Teresa reaffirms the "well-mannered" connotation of Haleigh's disposition. If I were to describe my Princess PeePee, I'd say "she's a firecracker, wants to know everything about everything. She loves to be outdoors, loves to play with the dogs, hates the cats, is more a muncher than a meal eater, she's smart, she's funny........." but the last thing I'd think of was her manners (which are still forming cuz well, she's 5).

It IS an odd thing to say about an active 5 year old. That isn't to say anything other than it is an odd response. From this, no one should get that I am implying that means he's guilty of something. I'm saying it is an odd response.

With regard to Claudicici's comments that he feels self-conscious about what the media will make of how he provides for his family, I can see how that might come into play, but this is very nearly his first interview with the media, and the reporter herself is nearly breaking down in tears when she says "She is such a beautiful little girl" so I don't know that it would have been more than instinctual reflex on Ron's part at this time to protect himself and his own from prying eyes. Unfortunately for everyone, when a child goes missing, eyes go prying, and rarely will it be pretty what those eyes spy.

 

[titanfan62702]

Have any of Ron's co-workers been interviewed by media?

 

[ks1]

I don't find it odd for Ron to describe her as well mannered. When I think of my youngest son, that is the first thought that comes to my mind. What a well mannered, kind, considerate child he was, and what a wonderful adult he has grown to be. The description of my oldest would be very different. Most people when describing their child would make the description based on what they feel is their childs greatest attribute, not what kind of cereal they like, etc....

 

[BetsyB]

Your assuming an awful lot. Unless your in his head you don't know what he thinks at all.

Hence my prefacing my statement with the words, "I think..." It is conjecture, obviously. Which is pretty much all we're all left doing, given the dearth of information. Ron self-describes as a strict disciplinarian. Given that children Haleigh's and RJ's age never require strict disciplinary action, one is left to surmise that their father emphasized compliance over other childhood concerns.

 

[titanfan62702]

I don't find it odd for Ron to describe her as well mannered. When I think of my youngest son, that is the first thought that comes to my mind. What a well mannered, kind, considerate child he was, and what a wonderful adult he has grown to be. The description of my oldest would be very different. Most people when describing their child would make the description based on what they feel is their childs greatest attribute, not what kind of cereal they like, etc....

The part about manners didn't bother me but the other part "I've ever had".

That sounds as if there are more children than the 2, maybe 3, that we know of.

 

[MADJGNLAW]

This is an old video report that I ran across today and I noticed that Ron handed LE a note. I wonder what could of been on that note? Anyone else notice it?
Feb 23, 2009
Video at Link: http://www.wesh.com/video/18778183/index.html

 

[Donjeta]

The part about manners didn't bother me but the other part "I've ever had".

That sounds as if there are more children than the 2, maybe 3, that we know of.

It's a strange grammar choice since it makes it sound like some or most of those children he's had in the past but not any longer. (Cf. This is the best car I've ever had vs. This is the best car I have.) Also because it sounds like he's comparing his children, who's the most well mannered, and I wouldn't expect that response. But he may have just spoken without thinking.

 

[Whisperer]

Anyone curious as to why moved out of the trailor?

 

[stilettos]

Anyone curious as to why moved out of the trailor?

Paranoid Le bugged it.