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I think it is clear that LE does arrest them, but prosecution appears to be the problem in Putnum County. Maybe it does have to with a lack of cells to house them or they believe their system with programs set up and court ordered are working for whatever reason. We don't know the track record of all those ordered to go to programs for rehab etc.

Evidently, Ronald was one of those according to his sister. :waitasec:
 
If the judge knew facts that wasn't put in writing, that would not be a fair decision. That would mean the other side was at a total disadvantage and had no argue points and no possible reason for a good outcome on appeal, since he had facts not disclosed. I don't think Judges can do this. They must abide by the law and not possess facts that have not been disclosed to both parties.

There may be facts that we aren't aware of that helped the judge come to the decision that he/she did.

Shaymus...my opinion. When I say "maybe" "it could be"...things like that I see it as not facts but "it could have been". I'll make sure I get IMO on my posts from now on so that no one is confused.
 
There may be facts that we aren't aware of that helped the judge come to the decision that he/she did.

Shaymus...my opinion. When I say "maybe" "it could be"...things like that I see it as not facts but "it could have been". I'll make sure I get IMO on my posts from now on so that no one is confused.


Thank you ! I was pretty sure it was your opinion.
 
Maybe it's me, but I have always felt this interview was very odd. Ron keeps stating over and over that the back door was wide open and that he was at work...I really find the part where Ron states (I'd give my life for my child's life back?) ..Is he stating that her life has been taken? That is how it sounds to me..JMO.He is so fake in this interview...I wonder if the FBI can see through him? JMO, I am not trying to start anything negative. Haleigh is still missing and there is so many inconsistencies in this case. You can also see the fresh cuts on his hands in this video.
Link to uncut video: http://www.news4jax.com/video/18684460/index.html
 
Hey Bern, he was doing odd jobs for a neighbor before he started at PDM in Oct-Nov (I think of 2008). He had just started a construction job (I believe) when he was granted custody in 2005-6 (health benenfits had not kicked in yet on that job). Per the custody docs, he had a job in Mexico for ~ 2 weeks earlier that Fall. IIRC, he has periodically worked for his Aunt Katrina's landscaping company. There you go, I'm sure others can fill in the blanks. Good question, imo. Some of my best friends were made at work.

Does anyone know the name of this landscaping company aunt Katrina owns and dates when Ron worked for her? Can we ask this? if not..mod delete as needed.
 
I doesn't sound like he had a steady or long time at any one job but we don't know what he was doing from 06 to 08 to fill in the blanks. Lately every case that I hear about when solved; the victim know or was connected to the POI. I was shocked at the Sandra Cantu case. Who would have guessed? If she had kept her mouth shut about the bag, who knows if they would have got her? So I am looking at his work places, or her school too.


You might want to do the same thing with Crystal and her stepbrother. Check out their friends and his work throughout the years. We know that Crystal didn't ever work so at least you don't have to get that history but it sounds like they had friends who were into drugs or at the least pot. Could have been someone that they knew as well as someone Ron knew.
 
Every place I've ever worked has had drug testing on hire and randomly thereafter.

Do you know how often people got tested after the initial test at hire? NEVER.

Not because it wasn't a job that required absolute sobriety, but because policies are put into place by organizations for liability purposes--and then are rarely utilized.

Do you really think people don't show up---in all walks of life, to all jobs, in all occupations--impaired?

If so, you are very, very mistaken. Crane operators are no different from any other segment of society--some are addicts, some are drunks, some are stone cold sober.

Let's not pretend that Ronald Cummings falls into the latter category. He's appeared on television, since Haleigh's disappearance, impaired. Our sources may not always be accurate, but most of us can use our own two eyes and own two ears to evaluate someone's sobriety or lack thereof.

And sure, we can deny it, too, if admitting it is too painful for one reason or another.

I personally think it's high time to buck up and acknowledge some of this man's problems and flaws so that (a) they can be dealt with and (b) he can perhaps achieve a state in which he's more likely to make amends for his actions and reveal what he's done with his daughter.


We are to acknowledge some of Ron's flaws so that they can be dealt with? And who is going to enforce this may I ask? I doubt that Ron has any more flaws then most of us right here. Maybe we should start with sharing our own flaws and deal with them first.

You want him to make amends for his actions and reveal what he has done with his daughter??? Do you know for a fact that Ron has done something with his daughter??? That is assuming an awful lot and spoken like you know it for pure fact which you don't.

So Ron appeared on TV impaired? Is that a fact too? I worked with alcoholic/addicts for years and my impression is that Ron was taking something for anxiety. He didn't look high in the least to me. If my baby girl was missing I'm sure I would be taking something for anxiety too as would most of us just so we can hold it together.

Most work places have a person take a drug test before hiring them now days. A lot also do random drug tests. I know that Boeing does and the place that my son works do random tests all of the time. I haven't done a survey on random drug tests in the work place but I would guess that random drug tests are happening more and more in most work places. The employers are finally getting smart.
 
You might want to do the same thing with Crystal and her stepbrother. Check out their friends and his work throughout the years. We know that Crystal didn't ever work so at least you don't have to get that history but it sounds like they had friends who were into drugs or at the least pot. Could have been someone that they knew as well as someone Ron knew.

BBM

I believe that this statement is incorrect. Could you please provide some support for it ? tia
 
BBM

I believe that this statement is incorrect. Could you please provide some support for it ? tia


The only place we know of Crystal working that I can remember is a short stint in a BBQ restaurant (which Crystal testified to in Court as a past job). However, I cannot think of us ever hearing of any other employment she was ever rumored to have had. Can you?

We do know Crystal was ordered to pay Ron the minimum child support for two children (according to Court records) back in February 2006 and she had no apparent job at that time.
 
So much broohaha in this case streaming back and fourth. We know the marriage between both parents, failed to reasons that aren't necessary to slueth. Even after the two split it seems they were never able to communicate without some animosoty up until the time of Halleighs abduction. Now that the 2 parents are trying to resume their daily lives and leaving others around them to do the speculating and arguing maybe it is time some of the monies made should go into appropriate therapy with someone licensed to help them communicate better together for the sake of finding Halleigh and for JR. The family bickering must be a nuisance to LE. I'v posted many times about someone helping R & C get this help but it falls to deaf ears. Can you imagine how the climate in Satsuma could change for the better if ex=spouses could put blame aside (maybe their significate others as well) and proceed to help instead of remaining stagnent with their anger. If someone from Satsuma see's this as a viable alyernative to help locate Halleigh, I'll pass info. from my advocating days to guide this ex coupke to the appropriate licensed therapist who has dealt with these issues. This isn't the first dysfunctual divorcies who have had a child go missing. Just check stats.
 
Why should Crystals job history be discussed and not Ron's? If her job history is examined than let's examine Ron's also.
 
Why should Crystals job history be discussed and not Ron's? If her job history is examined than let's examine Ron's also.

Seems that Crystal's job is being discussed because she was ordered to pay child support in February of 2006. If you do the math of the arrears, seems she never paid a dime in child support. Her job history is obviously relevant to that topic.
 
Seems that Crystal's job is being discussed because she was ordered to pay child support in February of 2006. If you do the math of the arrears, seems she never paid a dime in child support. Her job history is obviously relevant to that topic.

Actually, Whisperer is right, this is the Ron C thread. I replied to a comment made by another poster, but I should have posted in the Crystal thread. Tom's Girl, is there a way to move these posts to that thread or should we just delete them ?
 
Why should Crystals job history be discussed and not Ron's? If her job history is examined than let's examine Ron's also.


Ron's job history is already being checked out and discussed right here. That is why I suggested Crystal's also be checked out. If the person who took Haleigh might be connected to the history of a parent then both parents should be checked out along with their previous co-workers and friends, etc.
 
Frankly, I don't see how any of these dicussions work toward a resolution to HaLeigh's whereabouts.

Is anyone looking for her?
 
Frankly, I don't see how any of these dicussions work toward a resolution to HaLeigh's whereabouts.

Is anyone looking for her?

DotsEyes - you are right. I sometimes get caught up with the needs of the remaining child in the home....HaLeigh needs to be found. There was a search or a half day I believe yesterday...and on Friday. If they had found something though, we would know by now.
 
DotsEyes - you are right. I sometimes get caught up with the needs of the remaining child in the home....HaLeigh needs to be found. There was a search or a half day I believe yesterday...and on Friday. If they had found something though, we would know by now.

I'm so glad searches are ongoing. Will there be an LE Roundtable tomorrow ?
 
RC's job history as I know it consist of a construction job attained near the end of 2005 when he filed for custody. It did not become permanent and was over before his health benefits would take effect which was in three months.

The next verifiable job was PDM Bridge was short-lived also. He had just started working there....not long enough for benefits.

Other jobs were ones that were stated on an affidavit by his aunt with him doing yard work for her.

Player said he did some odds things for him around the trailer. Other than this, I need help with his job history.

I was told this is being discussed here, so if this is not allowed please delete.
 
The reason I want to know his work history is that, despite the fact that he doesn't work much according to what is known, Haleigh missed an awful lot of school.

On Dec. 9th, he could not have worked a 12 hr shift, because he states he picked up Haleigh at 3:30....should have been at work. Was he always at his job on time? Did he take time off? No one knows but we do know on Monday he was not at work on time IF he worked a 12 hr. shift.

He also told his pastor he worked his 8 hours....so it is likely he did not go to work till later that day.

Also, if he worked a regular 12 hr. shift, then perhaps he only worked a 4 day week...having off Friday, Sat. and Sunday.
 
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