Ronald proposes to Misty #2 UPDATE: Wedding planned for 03-12-09

[impatientredhead]

^^ So true!

Whatever the case, Misty sure is tickled pink, isn't she? Her mama seems to be too.

Her mother withheld permission for her to marry in the past and is now tickled pink about the idea? In the middle of this mess she is happy to allow this event? Is she actually thrilled because she is about to have her first grandchild?

 

[I AM THE 14 CAR]

I don't think this is the right time to be getting married
the only thing on their mind is Haleigh right now and
they need to put getting married on hold if that's what
they really want to do I just wonder why now ?

Is it possible that Ron proposed because of their ages & relationship ? If they get married, would it make it so Ron could never be charged with anything relating to their relationship.

Heck , Im not even clear (still) on the consent laws.

 

[azwriter]

I pick the or. I am always baffled when the reporter does not ask the follow-up question that is begging to be asked. It happens time and time again. So much pertinent information is lost because the reporter is "not on the ball" and "to slow on the uptake" to respond with appropriate questions. That is part of their job, isn't it?

Lexington, good point. As a former newspaper reporter I can say that is the job of the reporter. However in the case of tv reporters I often see them looking only for a statement and not going any further for an indept explaination.
It's the question I asked here and would have asked if I were covering the story. I would have liked to hear Misty's take on why people would think a marriage now would not be a good idea.
I suppose we can only guess.
jmo

 

[kiki the parrot]

Snookie & Shamus... "Sugarbritches," and "Spotty Dotty Dog..." lolol. Sigh, still no news My heart is heavy each morning there's no word re Haleigh.

I feel the same way, I don't think RC or anyone in the family other than possibly MC's cousin, had anything to do with this. Everyone is so quick to blame the 17 year old, who took on a huge responsiblity of taking care of RC's children, not to mention it is obvious she loves them and they love her very much. Teresa confirming the children wanted Misty to be their mommy speaks volumns to me about Misty and her past 5 months of responsibility. Yes, I know those babies already have a mom, but...do we really know what kind of mom she is? Do we know if the kids feel loved and secure with her? She lost custody of both children to Ron for a reason, has she tried to regain custody? How many photos are we seeing of Crystal and Haleigh together? I am not downing Crystal...but I do believe Teresa, she is forth coming, open and honest. RC knew and knows Misty loved and took very good care of his children, despite her age....those feelings were mutual, even Crystal stated the children told her many times that they loved Misty. Obviously RC is putting the blame on the actual perp who came in and took Haleigh. Obviously Misty feels horribly guilty because she was in charge when it happened...perhaps RC is trying to show Misty and the world that he is not blaming her. I personally am putting the blame where it belongs...and IMO it is the actual perp who took her, nobody else. There are tons of cases where the victim was snached right out of their own home while the family slept..it happened and it does happen...this case is no different IMO. Ok, I'm done now, I'm sure I will get bashed for this one......:razz:

(bold mine) Sounds like downing mom to me (fwiw mom's the only one who has been "forthcoming, open or honest" around here but let's get back on topic...) All I know is that both Haleigh & Junior deserve a stable homelife w at least one mature, responsible, drug-free adult in their lives who can get them to school and supervise them properly--and that no ring, no GM's blessing or mother's emancipation, and no JOP can ever provide either child with a suitable role model, help them make any more sense of a confusing childhood nor remove the risk factors to make their lives one ounce safer.

I noticed that too, and the comment she made about the possibility of Hayleigh no longer being with us, isn't it a little early for comments like that? There are parents who have had kids missing for years and won't say things like that. If you want to step up and play the part of Mommy then act like a parent, don't give up on the kid yet.

(bold mine) My thoughts exactly Brwnigirl... the lines between childhood and adulthood have been so blurred between these people geesh, emancipation no more suddenly makes an "adult" out of Misty than a marriage certificate equips or prepares her for the responsibilities of parenting. But if she's gonna sign up for it, then act like it. JMO

arrot:

 

[kiki the parrot]

:furious:
I had to wait to post because I was afraid I'd be banned!

This ridiculous proposal at at Chilli's, this "heriloom" engagement ring, the inappropriate rush to get married, and other things are WRONG on so many levels...

-Misty waving to... I guess all her fans... as she entered the courthouse and later flashing the ring for the camera all while saying, "Everybody's probably going to take this marriage thing the wrong way but it's not. Everything's still focused on Haleigh. This is what Haleigh wanted. She's always talked about it." WTH?

-When Ron exists the courthouse, he rushes to get past and around Misty. He doesn't wait for her, does not take her hand, and looks like he would have left her right there if she hadn't ran to jump in the truck.

- Misty's mother saying "They've been trying to get me to do this for five months now. And I told them you need to wait until you're 18. But now that everything's been going on and people have been trashing them, I'm going to let them do it. I know they love her...Haleigh, and they love each other." OMG...I can't even touch that one...but I will say that her statement about them trying to get her to do this for 5 months...uhhh that is the entire length of their relationship. Why is your CHILD not in school? Why do you not want to best for your CHILD? Why would you allow this man who has a criminal background even come near your CHILD? Why would you allow her to take on all of these adult responsibilities when she should be studying and planning a spring break trip with her girlfriends? (Oops! I said I wouldn't...and I did...)

-Ronald's mom saying live on NG, "Haleigh always said she wanted Misty to be her mommy." Like others have posted...Haleigh HAS a mommy...her name is CRYSTAL!!

-So Ron was married to Crystal, and they had Haleigh and Junior... and Grandma didn't offer up the ring then...but now suddenly Misty is the "Princess" of the family?? Why wouldn't that "heirloom" be treasured and kept for Haleigh?

-A "memorial" tattoo Ron???

-I agree with other posters, there is a reason for this marriage...involvement in something else that was uncovered, statutory, (although her mom would have to press charges), something is up! There is a 3-day waiting period, and the certificate is valid for only 60 days. The fee for a marriage license in FL is $93.50. A bed frame is $35!

raying: for Haleigh's safe return....

Applaud :clap: and Amen raying:

White=symbol of purity

arrot:

 

[Truthful Lies]

Her mother withheld permission for her to marry in the past and is now tickled pink about the idea? In the middle of this mess she is happy to allow this event? Is she actually thrilled because she is about to have her first grandchild?

Honestly, I think Misty's parents didn't want to give up the tax break!! hah!! Or, maybe Mom was too lazy to make it to the courthouse, but the media attention has given her extra incentive......seriously....

 

[Truthful Lies]

Applaud :clap: and Amen raying:

White=purity

arrot:

Kiki, I explained the origin of the "white dress" on post #99......does not/did not ever mean "purity"....only a common misconception...

 

[kiki the parrot]

It seems to me the apparent abililty and willingness to "move on" and make plans such as a wedding, new home so soon amidst these tragic unfolding of events is suggestive of one of two scenarios: Either one or both knows that Haleigh is not in any danger, thus has no genuine concern about her safety or wellbeing being in jeopardy...

OR one or both knows Haleigh is not coming back and figures there is also therefore no point in waiting or putting off a future w/out her.

Of course we all hope and pray it is the former! But would others here agree it seems that, for whatever reason "we" have advanced or progressed rather rapidly to the Planning and Redevelopment, or rebuilding phase...? JMO

arrot:

 

[snookie]

Her mother withheld permission for her to marry in the past and is now tickled pink about the idea? In the middle of this mess she is happy to allow this event? Is she actually thrilled because she is about to have her first grandchild?

I dunno, she seemed awfully giddy.

Seeing her and Misty out there going ga-ga over that big purdy ring.... it was surreal.

By the way, jmo, but I really do believe Misty is expecting.

Snookie & Shamus... "Sugarbritches," and "Spotty Dotty Dog..." lolol. Sigh, still no news My heart is heavy each morning there's no word re Haleigh.

Oh, I know. My youngest girl is just about 3 weeks younger than Haleigh.... I cannot even bear to imagine what it would be like to lose her.

Dear God, please bring this baby home safe!! raying:

 

[kiki the parrot]

Kiki, I explained the origin of the "white dress" on post #99......does not/did not ever mean "purity"....only a common misconception...

TLies, It makes no difference whatsoever to me what Misty or any other bride wears nor am I interested in disputing archaic or historical explanations for the tradition of bride wearing white. White as a symbolism of purity or virginity is a commonly held cultural tradition which is to what I was referring, and is thus hardly a "misconception." (FYI the bible does indeed make mention of garments of white w reference to virgins, pure, and unspotted brides, which may even predate your professor's findings! No interest in pursuing this further w you as it has little relevance to Misty or thread but if you dispute cultural or traditional symbolism of this please see links ad infinitum...) JMO

"Various theories for the meaning of this color choice have been put forward, from an appreciation of color symbolism, to represent purity of heart and the innocence of childhood, to an effort by the monarch to promote lace sales, to conspicuous consumption by status-conscious families, because a white dress could be easily damaged and was therefore common only among wealthy families. Later, it was believed that the color white symbolized virginity and should be worn only by a virgin bride..."


"To this day many brides wear white. This started in the 16th century and is a symbol of purity. Queen Victoria decided against the royal tradition for Royal brides to wear silver. Instead she chose to wear a white gown for its symbolism."





arrot:

 

[Razzle]

When the reporters are talking to Misty, her demeanor keeps changing depending on the questions that are being asked.

When she talks about the engagement, and the ring, she is happy, giddy, really excited. If I saw that clip, and I didn't know who she was, I would never in a MILLION YEARS guess that she has a missing stepdaughter!!

Then, when reporters are talking to her about the abduction she starts doing the "I am so weak and tired that I can barely muster a voice, and I am going to close my eyes while I look at the camera" bit.

THEN she gets REALLY happy and excited again when when she tells the reporters that she passed her poly. she was very "So there! In Yo Face !" about it and was full of energy again.

Misty knows where Haleigh is. And so does Ron. No WAY do I believe that he would feel comfortable marrying her right now if his daughter was truly abducted while in Misty's care.

Misty is in over her head

IMOO, of course!

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133274&catid=3

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=immersiveplayer&maven_referralPlaylistId=eba00a87d996b4b3a0f46791cbef43367513e061&maven_referralObject=1057261600

 

[RoseRed]

It's a beautiful ring indeed.

And congratulations on having such a long and successful marriage! Very refreshing.

I still don't buy the "heirloom" bit though. Something's fishy about it imo.

Why would they pass down such a valuable family keepsake to this 17 year old girl they've known for less than a year? A ring so special it wasn't even offered to the mother of Ron's children? Seems like they'd have saved it for Haleigh.

Or maybe they just bought it recently.....

Ron was never married to CS so therefore no ring. The ring is not a new style setting and perhaps there is no money to purchase a new ring at this time. The ring can still be handed down to Haleigh and most likely will be when she is old enough to marry.

 

[Tom'sGirl]

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TLies, It makes no difference whatsoever to me what Misty or any other bride wears nor am I interested in disputing archaic or historical explanations for the tradition of bride wearing white.

Lets not dispute the "white" explanations here. Going on and on about the color of a wedding dress is getting silly.

Some have gotten married in jeans, shorts, barefooted, on and on........lets move on.

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

Ron was never married to CS so therefore no ring. The ring is not a new style setting and perhaps there is no money to purchase a new ring at this time. The ring can still be handed down to Haleigh and most likely will be when she is old enough to marry.

Misty will take the ring off her finger and give it to Haleigh ?

 

[Hermione]

Ok, I have not had time to read the whole thread so someone had probably said all this before but my first thoughts on the matter are:

1- Would this have anything to do with the fact that if they get married, they are not required by law to testify against their spouse?

2- OMG, how could ANYone even THINK of having any kind of wedding, quickie or not, planned before the disappearance or not, when their CHILD has gone missing and presumed kidnapped?!?!?!?! You would want to find your child first- you would want her back first and foremost, and you couldn't have a wedding so soon without mourning your child, it would be awful. A wedding would not cheer you up- your child is gone! She could have been, should have been there! etc....

3- For some reason he's doing this to shut MC up. Because I recall not too long ago he was saying "B**tch how could let my child get stole" or whatever the quote was. So maybe this ties back to #1, maybe he doesn't blame MC and just thinks she's immature and seeshow bad she feels, and if she gets charged with anything he wouldn't want to testify against her- or maybe MC is the only one who will put up with his temper.

4- Or, on the heels of the Anthony case, perhaps they think "Hmmmm if we do this now maybe people will feel sorry for us and donate so we can have a better wedding/honeymoon". Sick - I am not saying I believe this, I said I wondered if it crossed their mind because I don't care if Donald Trump offered to send me on a vacation or pay for a wedding or whatever, my child is missing, I don't feel like doing anything except trying to find or or alternately, curling up in a ball under the covers and being sedated.

Just my thoughts. I feel very strongly about #2. But I wonder about #1.

 

[Hermione]

Misty will take the ring off her finger and give it to Haleigh ?

Well normally heirloom rings just stay in the family and pass down through the generations....I don't know the history of the ring as in who was the last person to have this as their wedding ring, if it was just his grandmother, this makes sense, it passed to him to give to his wife who will keep it in the family- normally I think, the wearer of the ring will always keep it until death and then it gets passed down again, unless the wearer gets a new/bigger ring one day like some women do (I only want my original wedding ring but for some reason, several people in my family have gone years later and gotten a completely different, honkingly huge wedding ring because they wanted a bigger more expensive ring to show off). The problem with heirlooom rings come in when there are several daughters in the family and they all want it.

I don't understand why RC and MC are doing this now. I don't really care about the dynamics of that ring. I just wonder how the heck they could even think of having a wedding now without knowing what happened to Haleigh! She would normally be IN the wedding as a flower girl, junior bridesmaid, or just have a special place there. Her presence will be MISSED, how could they even think of doing this now...I could see it a couple of years from now if there is still no resolution, but now? Just a month later, when no one knows if haleigh could turn up and they should be looking for her?

Also, bad move on their part........I do think this will alienate volunteers "Well the dad and girlfriend aren't even looking, they're planning a wedding, I don't want to donate money for that if they don't seem to be too mussed" (even though they DO seem devastated- having a wedding now will hurt them in getting help and donations IMO).

 

[Cubby]

It seems to me the apparent abililty and willingness to "move on" and make plans such as a wedding, new home so soon amidst these tragic unfolding of events is suggestive of one of two scenarios: Either one or both knows that Haleigh is not in any danger, thus has no genuine concern about her safety or wellbeing being in jeopardy...

OR one or both knows Haleigh is not coming back and figures there is also therefore no point in waiting or putting off a future w/out her.

Of course we all hope and pray it is the former! But would others here agree it seems that, for whatever reason "we" have advanced or progressed rather rapidly to the Planning and Redevelopment, or rebuilding phase...? JMO

arrot:

My bold and after the events of the last few days I agree. I can almost say I am convinced. My gut is strongly telling me Ron got himself into something over his head and the consequences for sharing that info with LE will be far greater than just Haleigh's safety. Ron can't say because it will put everyone in more danger. In the begining I wanted to believe Ron's greif was for Haleigh, now I think his greif, anger, emotions were directed at himself once he realized how great his mistake was once he realized he misjudged them or the situation.

 

[Hermione]

Misty knows where Haleigh is. And so does Ron. No WAY do I believe that he would feel comfortable marrying her right now if his daughter was truly abducted while in Misty's care.

Misty is in over her head

IMOO, of course!

This is all very suspicious and I agree, how could RC feel like marrying someone he just 1 month ago blamed for letting his daughter get stolen.

Honestly I think most people no matter how much they loved someone, would have problems trusting or feeling the same about anyone again, even if it wasn't their fault and it was a random fluke, someone who was in charge of their kid when something happened.

I just wonder, and this is the last I am making on this topic, WHY and WHY NOW?

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

SNIP

Also, bad move on their part........I do think this will alienate volunteers "Well the dad and girlfriend aren't even looking, they're planning a wedding, I don't want to donate money for that if they don't seem to be too mussed" (even though they DO seem devastated- having a wedding now will hurt them in getting help and donations IMO).

Snipped and bolded by me

That's my fear as well. Fair, or unfair, their actions impact the public's perception.

 

[Jholi]

I agree! Children age 4 and 5 don't even understand the meaning of marriage. However they might understand having someone else living with them and playing with them.

Thank you. It's been depressing to see how many adults think that a child's requests means the person would be a good parent. :waitasec: Out of two people myself and my own children adored and loved to stay with the most, one was a pedophile and the other BP.

Parenting requires good judgment and the maturity to do what is in the child's best interest, even when it's no fun at all.

These children will be teens in the blink of an eye, and being a good role model for them should be important to consider.