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It was a Protection Against Domestic Violence with Minor Children taken out by Chad's ex, Helen in 2006 and yes, it was dismissed AFTER 2 years.

As elle said, Thanks for clearing that up, I had been wondering about that since it kept popping up all of a sudden. Since Chad now has custody of his children, it does kind of give us an idea of the state of their relationship in 2006. It probably took 2 yrs. to work itself through the courts. How sad that the childrens mother would drag them through such a thing, but it happens everyday. That was always big pet peeve of mine working with Family Court and DSS...when one parent or the other would file an order of protection out of spite (certainly not always the case, but I'm speaking of the ones that are) and the children are the ones caught in the middle, where they may not even be allowed access to that parent until EVERYTHING has gone thru the proper channels, which CAN take forever. It truly is heartbreaking for the children involved. :(
 
Actually it is NOT against her--the poster is wrong. She filed it against him.

Plaintiffs
SHEFFIELD CRYSTAL DIANE
Defendants
CUMMINGS RONALD LEMYLES


Date Docket Description
2005-09-22 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE

2005-09-22 002.EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION FOR CHILD PICK-UP ORDER

2005-09-22 003.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID.

2005-09-22 004.PHOTO COPY OF ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE

2005-09-22 005.PHOTO COPY OF ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE

2005-09-22 006.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE

2005-09-22 007.TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC

2005-09-22 .VIOLENCE-PARTIES TO APPEAR BEFORE EEH 10/5/05 @ 9:00AM

2005-09-22 .NO CUSTODY ORDERED AT THIS TIME

2005-09-22 .RT 10/7/05 UNSVD-RESPONDENT WAS OUT OF TOWN

2005-09-22 008.ORDER DENYING PETITIONERS EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION

2005-09-22 .FOR CHILD PICK UP ORDER

2005-10-04 009.FAMILY COURT MINUTES- BOTH PARTIES APPEARED,

2005-10-04 .PETITIONER APPEARED IN OPEN COURT AND VOLUNTARILY

2005-10-04 .DISMISSED INJUNCTION

2005-10-05 010.ORDER OF DISMISSAL OF TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR

2005-10-05 .PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE- PETITIONER

2005-10-05 .APPEARED AT THE HEARING BUT DESIRES TO DISMISS ACTION

2005-10-05 .FL# 557856

Even tho we have a history and even recent reports which should cause anyone to have valid concerns re the environment from which Haleigh in fact disappeared and in which Junior still lives--it seems some spend more time trying the spaghetti and wall thing re Crystal. Btw I know it's "just" a Domestic Violence charge Crystal later agreed to drop against Ronald but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. It's just one stage of the cycle of violence. Victims return wanting to believe the abuser will change, and insist the charges be dropped. Like Shannon Burke's wife--now trying to retract her statements and reverse the no-contact order (after he put a bullet into her and her dog) in hopes of reconciling, and millions of other abuse victims who drop RO's to get charges dismissed--it has no bearing on actual legitimacy of the complaint nor on the victim's, or their family's, future safety.

After waiting eight months, I would be curious to know what the PI Ron just got around to hiring is hoping to accomplish at this point or what the plan of action is supposed to be now.


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Even tho there are reports which should cause anyone to have valid concerns re the actual environment from which Haleigh in fact disappeared and in which Junior still lives--it seems like the spaghetti and wall thing w Crystal. I know it was "just" a Domestic Violence charge Crystal later agreed to drop against Ron but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. It's just one stage of the cycle of violence. Victims return wanting to believe the abuser will change, and insist the charges be dropped. Like Shannon Burke's wife, now trying to retract her statements and reverse the no-contact order (after he put a bullet into her and her dog) in hopes of reconciling :banghead: and millions of other abuse victims who drop RO's to get charges dismissed it has no bearing on actual legitimacy of the complaint nor on the victim's, or their family's, future safety.

After waiting eight months, I would be curious to know what the PI Ron just hired is hoping to accomplish at this point or what his plan of action is now.


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bbm~
Oh, so Crystal DID file a DV charge against Ron?! ITA kiki, except I never had enough nerve to file against my ex. (or even ever call the police) I was much too afraid of what would happen afterwards! My ex told me repeatly that he would kill me and I believed him. And you are absolutly right for 19 L O N G years (ok, well 10 of them anyway) I actually thought he would change, or that I could change him! :banghead::banghead:
 
bbm~
Oh, so Crystal DID file a DV charge against Ron?! ITA kiki, except I never had enough nerve to file against my ex. (or even ever call the police) I was much too afraid of what would happen afterwards! My ex told me repeatly that he would kill me and I believed him. And you are absolutly right for 19 L O N G years (ok, well 10 of them anyway) I actually thought he would change, or that I could change him! :banghead::banghead:

Yes this is why it becomes frustrating for DA's I'm sure, when victims change their mind and they can no longer get their cooperation. The recent incident, in which a gun was used to threaten harm to himself and others is the type of fear and terror to which no child should ever be exposed. I can only pray Junior is getting the counsel he needs to help him thru these terrifying events, a sudden loss of a sibling is not the only trauma this little boy has evidently experienced. JMO

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Actually it is NOT against her--the poster is wrong. She filed it against him.

Plaintiffs
SHEFFIELD CRYSTAL DIANE
Defendants
CUMMINGS RONALD LEMYLES


Date Docket Description
2005-09-22 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE

2005-09-22 002.EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION FOR CHILD PICK-UP ORDER

2005-09-22 003.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID.

2005-09-22 004.PHOTO COPY OF ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE

2005-09-22 005.PHOTO COPY OF ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE

2005-09-22 006.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE

2005-09-22 007.TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC

2005-09-22 .VIOLENCE-PARTIES TO APPEAR BEFORE EEH 10/5/05 @ 9:00AM

2005-09-22 .NO CUSTODY ORDERED AT THIS TIME

2005-09-22 .RT 10/7/05 UNSVD-RESPONDENT WAS OUT OF TOWN

bbm, this sentence states that, "The respondent who would have been Ron, as Crystal was the petitioner, was un-served reason being Ron was out of town when processor tried to serve due process.

2005-09-22 008.ORDER DENYING PETITIONERS EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION

Order denied, as the emergency hearing wasn't held due to process of notification not being served to Ron.

2005-09-22 .FOR CHILD PICK UP ORDER

2005-10-04 009.FAMILY COURT MINUTES- BOTH PARTIES APPEARED,

Again, first order acknowledged on the record minutes that both parties were there for this hearing. Due process was served and observed for the record.

2005-10-04 .PETITIONER APPEARED IN OPEN COURT AND VOLUNTARILY

2005-10-04 .DISMISSED INJUNCTION

2005-10-05 010.ORDER OF DISMISSAL OF TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR

2005-10-05 .PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE- PETITIONER

2005-10-05 .APPEARED AT THE HEARING BUT DESIRES TO DISMISS ACTION

2005-10-05 .FL# 557856

appreciate the clarification as I wasn't aware when it came up here recently. I also want to use this copied facts straight from the courts to put to bed what I've been saying for weeks now here. In red, my comments as to the issue of "Ron holding court without Crystal being properly served and knowing of a court hearing involving her that she supposedly missed that caused her to lose custody of her children". As I've said repeatedly, you can't have a hearing without due process of notification served by official processors approved by the courts.
 
Interesting post, kiki. Seizure medication may well cause the slowing down of speech. Does such medication prevent slow but coherent response to relatively simple questions? Since I do not know Crystal's medical history, I can only say that she often appears to have difficulty communicating on television, and I have wondered if one reason she hasn't pursued custody more vigorously is that her health may not allow it. I wasn't stating anything pejorative; I was describing what I saw. She seems, at time, to be dazed or in a fog--whether from prescribed meds or depression or something else, I don't know. Certainly if she has seizure problems, taking illegal drugs is not the best choice. I did not say one thing about her character. And it isn't me who paints people as unfit to be parents due to drug use. If that's the criteria, the kids shouldn't be with Crystal either. So far as I can see, she seems to be a decent person. I admire that she doesn't use the media spotlight to trash her children's father publicly or to heap blame on him for Haleigh's disappearance. The topic of my post was whether Haleigh would be with her family now if Ron didn't have custody and Crystal did. My point is that there are some issues with Crystal, as well as with Ron. Unless we are to imagine that kids with less than perfect parents should be placed in foster care, with its dismal, dismal record, then courts are left with trying to shore up weak, imperfect families formed by young people who make some bad choices. Does it mean nothing that child welfare agents have responded to allegations about Ron's fitness as a parent twice since Haleigh disappeared, and under intense media spotlight, so far have not seen it necessary to remove his son? Perhaps the people investigating the household know more than we do. None of this means that I would hire Misty as a babysitter or want my daughter dating Ron Cummings. I am just waiting until we know what happened to Haleigh before determining that "Ron put her at risk" for abduction and worse.

I don't think, for example, that people invited into a home pose "hidden, unknown risk factors." Those risks are right out there for all to see. When we hire someone to work in our home, we use licensed, bonded workers, usually based on referrals from people we know or other professionals we have worked with. We kept a close eye on the workers building a new home in our neighborhood, locking doors even when we were all at home in the day time. Schools in PA require background checks before teachers, aides and other workers can be hired. And so on. Even these precautions aren't foolproof. A predator may not have an arrest record or use a stolen identity; the criminal may be the new guy on the job. If we teach kids "stranger danger," why give adults a pass for letting the stranger danger into the house? Because even the best of people with the best of intentions make mistakes that put their kids at risk.

How is a child's disappearance the "forseeable consequence" of Ron's arrest record for poaching deer or possessing drugs? I can see how a child's abduction might be the forseeable consequence of inviting a stranger to work in your house without checking references. And remember: I am not arguing that Ed Smart is at fault or is in any way responsible for his daughter's abduction. I don't think Haleigh's disappearance is a forseeable consequences of dating Misty or moving her in the house, etc. Now, if (and God forbid) Misty killed this child in the same way that Robert Manwill's stepfather killed him--beating him to death--and she is found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, then Ron will have to suffer the lifetime torment of wondering why he didn't see that his girlfriend was a homicidal child abuser.

But we do not know, yet, what happened to Haleigh. Who took her out of that trailer, and for what reason? If it was a child predator, and it turns out that Misty was indeed asleep in bed, then how would that be Ron's fault? I don't have to see him as a perfect parent or even a good one in all respects to withhold judgment on what he might have done to prevent Haleigh's disappearance until we know what happened.


HI Pittsburghgirl...I had been looking for an answer to your question about Crystal's seizures. I had all but given up and then I found the answer this morning, then I went about trying to find where you asked about Crystal's history....lol. I aim to please what can I say.

Anyway here you go! http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/033009haleighs_mom_seizure

snip~Sheffield’s family says this is the second seizure Crystal has ever gone through. She suffered her first two days before Haleigh was taken. Family members said she did go to the doctor then, but hasn’t been able to do any follow-up visits since her daughter’s disappearance.

Sheffield is expected to be okay and should be released from the hospital after minimal supervision. Her father was by her side the entire time she was in the hospital. Her mother was stuck at a different hospital in Jacksonville sitting with another family member, but was in constant contact by phone with her daughter.~ end snip

Doesn't appear that Crystal has had a history of seizures, Her family stated that this was only her second seizure with the first occurring only two days before Haleigh went missing in February.
 
I am not sure what you mean by spaghetti nor do I need you to explain why you make a reference to it. However, the question about Crystal's seizures was raised in this thread and to be polite I tried to answer the question with an answer that was based on fact. I will take the information to Crystal's thread but leave the article that I posted here in case the poster who requested it wants to read it.
 
It is difficult to fathom why, when we have a parent in whose care Haleigh actually disappears, w an extensive arrest history, making recent violent threats involving weapons in the home in which Junior is at least thus far still living......... why anyone chooses to focus on--finds relevant or attaches the least significance in this case--to a medical condition ie seizures experienced by the non-custodial parent in the aftermath of her child gone missing on the other parent's watch. Can't decide whether this is more senseless, or heartless but it's definitely OT. JMO

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I am not sure what you mean by spaghetti nor do I need you to explain why you make a reference to it. However, the question about Crystal's seizures was raised in this thread and to be polite I tried to answer the question with an answer that was based on fact. I will take the information to Crystal's thread but leave the article that I posted here in case the poster who requested it wants to read it.
Thanks for leaving it here too elle. Threads have the natural ebb and flow of conversation and things crop up from different topics because of this. I think most understand that and will understand why you posted it here. IMO. :)
 
Thanks for leaving it here too elle. Threads have the natural ebb and flow of conversation and things crop up from different topics because of this. I think most understand that and will understand why you posted it here. IMO. :)


Thank you, I certainly understand the need to keep the threads on topic but if everyone ignored the questions from posters that were not on topic WS would not be a very friendly place. IMO
 
HI Pittsburghgirl...I had been looking for an answer to your question about Crystal's seizures. I had all but given up and then I found the answer this morning, then I went about trying to find where you asked about Crystal's history....lol. I aim to please what can I say.

Anyway here you go! http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/033009haleighs_mom_seizure

snip~Sheffield’s family says this is the second seizure Crystal has ever gone through. She suffered her first two days before Haleigh was taken. Family members said she did go to the doctor then, but hasn’t been able to do any follow-up visits since her daughter’s disappearance.

Sheffield is expected to be okay and should be released from the hospital after minimal supervision. Her father was by her side the entire time she was in the hospital. Her mother was stuck at a different hospital in Jacksonville sitting with another family member, but was in constant contact by phone with her daughter.~ end snip

Doesn't appear that Crystal has had a history of seizures, Her family stated that this was only her second seizure with the first occurring only two days before Haleigh went missing in February.

I hope Crystal gets feels better soon! Most likely her seizures were triggered by the stress of this whole event.
 
I am not sure what you mean by spaghetti nor do I need you to explain why you make a reference to it. However, the question about Crystal's seizures was raised in this thread and to be polite I tried to answer the question with an answer that was based on fact. I will take the information to Crystal's thread but leave the article that I posted here in case the poster who requested it wants to read it.

It's good to post little "footnotes" hear and there =)
 
Others are perfectly capable--time permitting--of reading through Ron's arrest records in their entirety for themselves--and simply will not agree w the same benign view some take of this father's activities, that's all. It seems somewhere lost amidst the teen drive in the country and the hunting, the drugs "not specified," and "particulars" of Ron's arrest history conveniently omitted include but aren't limited to such items as methamphetamines, cocaine, ecstacy, ghb, maintaining a drug vehicle, etc. and that's to say nothing of Ron's record outside of Putnam County (Sarasota County eg). Does it really require more than one arrest per substances such as these to raise one's alert level concerning the safety of children? The complete and unabridged records have appeared numerous times in the RonC threads and are also posted in stickies as well.

I confess... I do like and approve of parents who are not involved w the use, distribution, or possession of illegal drugs in their childrens' homes or vehicles, who manage to keep themselves out of jail, refrain from affrays (or bar fights) assaults on others, brandishing firearms and putting weapons in their mouthes or otherwise threatening to do themselves or others harm, and are generally not lawbreakers. I don't recall Ed Smart engaging in any of these prior to his daughter's abduction, nor his being arrested for either burglary or assault in the "mitigating" stressful months following his child's kidnapping--when he was rightfully more focused than ever on finding his missing daughter, not creating more sideshows.

But it isn't about whether I happen to "like" a parent, nor certainly about whether a parent is ever "deserving" of a child abduction. That's assuming that is in fact what happened, for beginners. No it's about their responsibility to protect their child and whether they make choices which continually predispose their family or put their child at risk. Anyone who still wishes to believe Haleigh's disappearance is a random fluke or even the result of a one-time exercise in poor judgment is free to do so. Prior to a total reversal by LE and some indication that this was a stranger abduction, efforts at convincing me of that--no matter how forcefully, and repetitiously hammered--will be fruitless. Frankly, there will be no meeting of minds nor can I see the least point in debating my heartfelt concern for Haleigh, Junior nor any other children w any who believe that smoking marijuana around children is harmless or wish to debate the "odd history" of either it's criminality or current illegal status as (just another) unlawful drug. JMO

In the same polite, accommodating servile spirit, I'm dutifully responding to another question posed in that re-post #386--in case my former reply (bolded, above) failed to address adequately:

How is a child's disappearance the "forseeable consequence" of Ron's arrest record for poaching deer or possessing drugs?

We are speaking here not of deer poaching but of a dangerous incident in which threats w a weapon were made to others and to himself w weapon then inserted in his mouth. The grave, horrifying nature of this should speak for itself and is beyond excuse, and anyone should rightfully question the mental stability--under any circumstances--of any parent who makes such a display of violence whether in the child's presence at the time or not.

Beyond this act of implicit violence, statistics for tragedies involving children in homes where firearms are not consistently locked and secured safely out of reach and treated w respect rise astronomically and are doubly alarming. And as tho that weren't cause enough for a thorough investigation...

Parental, and caregiver, substance abuse alone (ie notwithstanding further risks compounded by a parent's engaging in selling, and having dangerous substances accessible to children and increased risk of overdose) has been linked to the most serious outcome which is child fatalities. Substance abuse by parents and other caregivers is associated w as many as two thirds of all cases of child maltreatment fatalities. Half (51%) of these deaths involve physical abuse, 44% involve neglect and 5% involve multiple other forms of child maltreatment. So we're speaking here only of the results of increased violence, decreased supervision and other indirect risks to children of parents and caregivers who are under the influence of drugs--who due to their effects are three times more likely to abuse children and four times likelier to neglect them than parents (and their caregivers) who do not abuse substances.

But I think it's patently clear that whereever a parent and/or caregiver may be also engaged in the dealing or distributing of illegally gained substances and those associations; and w/out question anytime these (or even legal substances whenever basic safety measures are not taken to secure) are possessed inside the home, vehicle or are otherwise left accessible to a child, the risks multiply exponentially.

No we don't know yet exactly what went so tragically wrong that night in February. But whether one considers the manifold possibilities of overdose, violence, reckless firearms or simply negligent, inebriated or non supervision (pick one, any one), evidently LE feels there were enough red flags, warning signs, accidents waiting to happen, and shoes waiting to fall that they have been unwilling to treat or characterize this as simply a stranger abduction. Lord, please help lead LE to Haleigh, and protect Junior. :prayer: JMO


http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/503855

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Thanks for leaving it here too elle. Threads have the natural ebb and flow of conversation and things crop up from different topics because of this. I think most understand that and will understand why you posted it here. IMO. :)

bbm~This is true cc and I did see where elle was answering another poster, so perhaps you could have afforded another poster (whom I have always found to be a "kind and gentle poster") the same courtesy and understanding when posting in the Tim Miller interview thread the other day when this was your response:

I agree, but since this is the Tim Miller interview thread, I was speaking of only him. :)

Kinda one of those things where you have to "practice what you preach" you know? :) ...just sayin...that's jmo..

btw elle, I certainly don't mean to infer that you are not a 'kind and gentle' poster, lol! You have no problems holding your own though and I respect you fwiw even though we disagree! :blowkiss:
 
In the same polite, accommodating servile spirit, I'm dutifully responding to another question posed in that re-post #386--in case my former reply (bolded, above) failed to address adequately:



We are speaking here not of deer poaching but of a dangerous incident in which threats w a weapon were made to himself and others w the weapon inserted in his mouth. The grave, horrifying nature of this should speak for itself and is beyond excuse, and anyone should rightfully question the mental stability--under any circumstances--of any parent who makes such threats whether in the presence of child or not.

Beyond the implicit violence the statistics for tragedies involving children in homes where firearms are not locked and secured and treated w respect rise astronomically and are doubly alarming. And if that isn't enough cause for a thorough investigation...

Parental, and caregiver, substance abuse alone (ie notwithstanding further risks compounded by a parent's engaging in selling, and having dangerous substances accessible to children and increased risk of overdose) has been linked to the most serious outcome which is child fatalities. Substance abuse by parents and other caregivers is associated w as many as two thirds of all cases of child maltreatment fatalities. Half (51%) of these deaths involve physical abuse, 44% involve neglect and 5% involve multiple other forms of child maltreatment. So we're speaking here only of the results of increased violence, decreased supervision and other indirect risks to children of parents and caregivers who are under the influence of drugs--who due to drugs are three times more likely to abuse their children and four times likelier to neglect them than parents who do not abuse substances.

But I think it's patently clear that whereever a parent and/or caregiver may be also engaged in dealing or distributing any illegally gained substances; and w/out question anytime these (or even legal substances where basic safety measures are not taken to secure) are possessed inside the home, vehicle or are otherwise accessible to a child, the risks multiply exponentially.

No we don't know yet exactly what went so tragically wrong that night in February. But whether one considers the manifold possibilities of overdose, violence, reckless firearms or simply negligent, inebriated or non supervision (pick one, any one), evidently LE feels there were enough red flags, warning signs, accidents waiting to happen, and shoes waiting to fall that they have been unwilling to treat or characterize this as simply a stranger abduction. Lord, please help lead LE to Haleigh, and protect Junior. :prayer: JMO


http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/503855

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kiki, My fine, colorful, feathered friend...while the above is so tragically sad and true, my hats off to you chica for such an eloquently written post! :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
 
In the same polite, accommodating servile spirit, I'm dutifully responding to another question posed in that re-post #386--in case my former reply (bolded, above) failed to address adequately:



We are speaking here not of deer poaching but of a dangerous incident in which threats w a weapon were made to himself and others w weapon then inserted in his mouth. The grave, horrifying nature of this should speak for itself and is beyond excuse, and anyone should rightfully question the mental stability--under any circumstances--of any parent who makes such a display of violence whether in the child's presence in the time or not.

Beyond the implicit violence the statistics for tragedies involving children in homes where firearms are not consistently locked and secured safely out of reach and treated w respect rise astronomically and are doubly alarming. And as tho that weren't cause enough for a thorough investigation...

Parental, and caregiver, substance abuse alone (ie notwithstanding further risks compounded by a parent's engaging in selling, and having dangerous substances accessible to children and increased risk of overdose) has been linked to the most serious outcome which is child fatalities. Substance abuse by parents and other caregivers is associated w as many as two thirds of all cases of child maltreatment fatalities. Half (51%) of these deaths involve physical abuse, 44% involve neglect and 5% involve multiple other forms of child maltreatment. So we're speaking here only of the results of increased violence, decreased supervision and other indirect risks to children of parents and caregivers who are under the influence of drugs--who due to their effects are three times more likely to abuse children and four times likelier to neglect them than parents (and their caregivers) who do not abuse substances.

But I think it's patently clear that whereever a parent and/or caregiver may be also engaged in the dealing or distributing of illegally gained substances and those associations; and w/out question anytime these (or even legal substances whenever basic safety measures are not taken to secure) are possessed inside the home, vehicle or are otherwise left accessible to a child, the risks multiply exponentially.

No we don't know yet exactly what went so tragically wrong that night in February. But whether one considers the manifold possibilities of overdose, violence, reckless firearms or simply negligent, inebriated or non supervision (pick one, any one), evidently LE feels there were enough red flags, warning signs, accidents waiting to happen, and shoes waiting to fall that they have been unwilling to treat or characterize this as simply a stranger abduction. Lord, please help lead LE to Haleigh, and protect Junior. :prayer: JMO


http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/503855

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And Crystal also said Ron hit her in the head while she was pregnant-

Maybe he was trying to get her face out of a plate of coke.

His luck will run out though, hopefully its before anyone gets hurt...................

Just what kind of luck has this guy had? I can't think of anyone more unlucky.
 
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