Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #14

[margarita25]

Live updates: Russia attacks Ukraine

Military Times
Live Twitter updates from Russia’s massive Ukraine invasion

“As Russian President Vladimir Putin tonight announced a special “special military operation” and reportedly launched a major attack on neighboring Ukraine, President Joe Biden responded that the Russian government would be held accountable for “catastrophic loss of life and human suffering.”

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[Sillybilly]

APPROVED SOURCES
(In addition to approved MSM from around the world)

The Kyiv Independent
Ukrinform
Nexta TV
Hromadske
AtlanticCouncil.org
Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFE/RL)
Euromaidan Press
The New Voice of Ukraine


NON APPROVED SOURCES
(Do not link to the following Russian state affiliated agencies or sources that promote or spread false information)

TASS
Korrespondent media and all other UMH Group publications found here
RT and RT America
Sputnik
Russia 24
RIA Novosti
Dozhd TV
Ekho Moskvy
Komsomolskaya Pravda
Russia-24
VGTRK (Russia TV)
Aram Gabrelyanov media (including Zhizn, Lifenews.ru, Izvestia)
Global Times (Chinese publication, known for fabrications, disinformation, misinformation and conspiracy theories.)

 

[Sillybilly]

Please continue discussion here.

This is a very difficult topic for Mods to moderate. Bickering, rudeness, personalizing, over-alerting, etc that creates more work for them will not be tolerated.

 

[Stella123]

A timeline of the past week here from Sky News. Trump withdrew intelligence AFTER Zelensky sent a positive statement to Trump

"A statement from Mr Zelenskyy came a few hours later, describing his disastrous meeting with Mr Trump as "regrettable" and saying Kyiv was "ready to come to the negotiating table as soon as possible".

Crucially, he said: "We are ready to work fast to end the war, and the first stages could be the release of prisoners and truce in the sky - ban on missiles, long-ranged drones, bombs on energy and other civilian infrastructure - and truce in the sea immediately, if Russia will do the same."

"Intelligence sharing paused - Wednesday 5 March

Despite the seemingly more positive tones being struck in Washington surrounding Ukraine following Mr Zelenskyy's letter, the US announced yesterday it was stopping sharing intelligence with Kyiv."

What you need to know from a monumental week in Ukraine

Volodymyr Zelenskyy has met with presidents, prime ministers, cabinet ministers and kings in the last seven days - all in front of the world's cameras. Here's what has happened in a week like no other.

news.sky.com

 

[statt#1]

The warhawks continue the madness. Meanwhile, Russia builds its war chests right along with 'em. No need to talk, just roll right on down the arms race avenue!

Donald Tusk announces military training plans for all men in Poland

Poland's prime minister said his government plans to have a model ready by the end of the year.

www.bbc.com

 

[Stella123]

The hopes and fears of Ukrainians

""It doesn't matter that President Zelensky doesn't have a suit - he has a heart," she added."

"She said: "We have cards and our cards are our people and our friends."

Ukrainian women share their hopes and fears on the war

Three Ukrainian women with links to the Channel Islands speak about their hopes for a ceasefire.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[JennieM]

Five killed in Russian attack on Donetsk, Ukrainian officials say
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IMAGE SOURCE, REUTERS
Image caption,
In Pokrovsk, Donetsk, overnight strikes also caused damage to buildings and infrastucture

Russian attacks in the Donetsk region in eastern Ukraine have killed five people and injured nine others, regional prosecutors say.

The prosecutors say that Russian troops attacked residential areas of Kostyantynivka, Pokrovsk, Lyman, Velyka Novosilka and Dobropillia.

Two aerial bombs were dropped on the village of Ivanopillia in Kostyantynivka, according to the Donetsk prosecutors. An 89-year-old man was killed in his home as "four more men, aged 43, 57, 62 and 75, were fatally injured in Pokrovsk and the villages of Yablunivka, Lviv, and Kostyantynopil".

The nine injuries, including men and women aged 47 to 76, were caused by shrapnel wounds and injuries from the explosions, the prosecutors add.

Ukraine war live updates: Wave of Russian strikes kill at least 20 and injure dozens, officials say

Ukraine's President Zelensky urges more sanctions against Russia as he says the strikes show the Kremlin's goals "are unchanged".

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[JennieM]

Trump says Putin launching massive strike on Ukraine is ‘what anybody would do’​

US president says he finds Russia easier to deal with than Ukraine after cutting off intelligence and weapons to Kyiv

Trump says Putin launching massive strike on Ukraine is ‘what anybody would do’

US president says Russian counterpart ‘doing what anybody else would do’ as Ukraine faces escalating aerial attacks

www.theguardian.com

 

[Simply Southern]

It seems he UK had NO intentions of using tax payer money.

Why would anyone expect the US to continue to use US tax payer money, when they don't use their own taxpayer money? A new low for UK.
Moo

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/how-europe-could-seize-frozen-russian-assets-to-fund-ukraine.html

.....

At the EU Foreign Affairs Council meeting at the end of February, Kallas stated that work on reaching an asset seizure agreement was “ongoing” and that “eventually, especially in the situation where we are right now, we all come to the conclusion that our taxpayers should not be the ones who are paying for this. It should come from the country that destroys Ukraine, which is Russia.”

Also toward the end of last month, U.K. foreign minister David Lammy told the British parliament that “Europe has to act quickly, and I believe we should move from freezing assets to seizing assets.” Estonia and Poland have also expressed support to seize assets.

Posted previously by @SouthAussie

 

[keek]

Trump says Putin launching massive strike on Ukraine is ‘what anybody would do’​

US president says he finds Russia easier to deal with than Ukraine after cutting off intelligence and weapons to Kyiv

Trump says Putin launching massive strike on Ukraine is ‘what anybody would do’

US president says Russian counterpart ‘doing what anybody else would do’ as Ukraine faces escalating aerial attacks

www.theguardian.com

Oh my God.

 

[Rush4087]

Everyone agrees the horrors of the war in Ukraine must be stopped.

If the UK and FR and Germany and EU are so convinced that the war can be ended in Ukraine's favor via some type of military intervention, and that Russia and Putin are great evils (which I agree that they are), and that Ukraine should not seek to negotiate a peace, why are UK, FR, Germany, and EU unwilling to use the 300 billion of frozen Russian assets they control to fund the war in Ukraine and build up their militaries at warp speed so that they can arrange a D-Day like invasion on the shores of Crimea and push the Russians out of Ukraine?

What are they concerned about that they think the US should not be concerned about?

Imo it is not a winnable war (or even the type of conflict where a “genuine guaranteed peace” is feasible) without a complete and total defeat of Russia in a World War III

Jmo

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Tariffs yes, Tariffs no, Tariffs yes again.

All of this kind of thing I think is to keep Trump the centre of attention, and always in the news.

 

[SouthAussie]

It seems he UK had NO intentions of using tax payer money.

Why would anyone expect the US to continue to use US tax payer money, when they don't use their own taxpayer money? A new low for UK.
Moo

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/how-europe-could-seize-frozen-russian-assets-to-fund-ukraine.html

.....

At the EU Foreign Affairs Council meeting at the end of February, Kallas stated that work on reaching an asset seizure agreement was “ongoing” and that “eventually, especially in the situation where we are right now, we all come to the conclusion that our taxpayers should not be the ones who are paying for this. It should come from the country that destroys Ukraine, which is Russia.”

Also toward the end of last month, U.K. foreign minister David Lammy told the British parliament that “Europe has to act quickly, and I believe we should move from freezing assets to seizing assets.” Estonia and Poland have also expressed support to seize assets.

Posted previously by @SouthAussie

Pretty sure that the US could do the same.

And Russia is doing it as well. Won't be long before they are funding themselves with other people's money, if they are not doing it already.

Maybe Trump is supporting Russia because he doesn't want US money trapped in Russia? So he is going to lift sanctions and do all the rest of what he is doing against Ukraine. Trump certainly seems to have enough wealthy friends & family, and wealthy govt officials, who might be concerned about that.

imo


MOSCOW, Feb 7 (Reuters) - Russia is set to widen its power to retaliate for Western asset seizures with new legislation that could allow it to confiscate the frozen funds of foreign companies and investors, two sources familiar with the draft law told Reuters.

That could spell trouble for the many foreign investors, including both individuals and major U.S. investment funds, with billions of dollars of funds trapped in those accounts.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-widen-asset-seizing-power-with-new-legislation-sources-say-2025-02-07/

 

[Stella123]

Everyone agrees the horrors of the war in Ukraine must be stopped.

If the UK and FR and Germany and EU are so convinced that the war can be ended in Ukraine's favor via some type of military intervention, and that Russia and Putin are great evils (which I agree that they are), and that Ukraine should not seek to negotiate a peace, why are UK, FR, Germany, and EU unwilling to use the 300 billion of frozen Russian assets they control to fund the war in Ukraine and build up their militaries at warp speed so that they can arrange a D-Day like invasion on the shores of Crimea and push the Russians out of Ukraine?

What are they concerned about that they think the US should not be concerned about?

Imo it is not a winnable war (or even the type of conflict where a “genuine guaranteed peace” is feasible) without a complete and total defeat of Russia in a World War III

Jmo

I believe they are going to use Russian assets - there was a link about it earlier.

I don't think it's whether or not it is a "winnable" war. It's about saving Ukraine from being invaded by a hostile neighbour. JMO

 

[keek]

Tariffs yes, Tariffs no, Tariffs yes again.

All of this kind of thing I think is to keep Trump the centre of attention, and always in the news.

It def. is. Every time I check our national online news, more obnoxious statements of imma gonna.

 

[Deleted member 352484]

I don't think it's whether or not it is a "winnable" war. It's about saving Ukraine from being invaded by a hostile neighbour. JMO

They've been invaded for years. Who exactly is going to wrench the Russians out?

 

[LoveyG]

It seems he UK had NO intentions of using tax payer money.

Why would anyone expect the US to continue to use US tax payer money, when they don't use their own taxpayer money? A new low for UK.
Moo

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/how-europe-could-seize-frozen-russian-assets-to-fund-ukraine.html

.....

At the EU Foreign Affairs Council meeting at the end of February, Kallas stated that work on reaching an asset seizure agreement was “ongoing” and that “eventually, especially in the situation where we are right now, we all come to the conclusion that our taxpayers should not be the ones who are paying for this. It should come from the country that destroys Ukraine, which is Russia.”

Also toward the end of last month, U.K. foreign minister David Lammy told the British parliament that “Europe has to act quickly, and I believe we should move from freezing assets to seizing assets.” Estonia and Poland have also expressed support to seize assets.

Posted previously by @SouthAussie

This is not a secret nor surprise though. Macron talked about it in his televised meeting with Trump. The one with all the knee grabbing.

 

[Stella123]

I know this was mentioned above, but here is the video.

Press: Do you, Mr President, think that Vladimir Putin is taking advantage of the US pause right now on intelligence and military aid to Ukraine?

Trump: I actually think he's doing what anybody else would do. I think he wants to get it stopped and settled and I think he's hitting them harder than he's been hitting them and I think probably anybody in that position would be doing that right now. He wants to get it ended ....

Total denial, total gaslighting, pandering to Putin. He wants the war to end with Ukraine being lost. Of course Putin wants it ended - by pulverising Ukraine - with the assistance of the US knobbling Ukraine JMO MOO.

 

[LoveyG]

Tariffs yes, Tariffs no, Tariffs yes again.

All of this kind of thing I think is to keep Trump the centre of attention, and always in the news.

Yes, working as intended. I have a narcissistic relative and I make a game out of trying to get them to talk about anything without them turning it back to themselves. If anyone else is doing anything that does not involve them, they have to go interrupt and make it about them. All attention on them at all times.

 

[UK Girl]

The warhawks continue the madness. Meanwhile, Russia builds its war chests right along with 'em. No need to talk, just roll right on down the arms race avenue!

They've been invaded for years. Who exactly is going to wrench the Russians out?

It seems he UK had NO intentions of using tax payer money.

Why would anyone expect the US to continue to use US tax payer money, when they don't use their own taxpayer money? A new low for UK.
Moo

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/how-europe-could-seize-frozen-russian-assets-to-fund-ukraine.html

.....

At the EU Foreign Affairs Council meeting at the end of February, Kallas stated that work on reaching an asset seizure agreement was “ongoing” and that “eventually, especially in the situation where we are right now, we all come to the conclusion that our taxpayers should not be the ones who are paying for this. It should come from the country that destroys Ukraine, which is Russia.”

Also toward the end of last month, U.K. foreign minister David Lammy told the British parliament that “Europe has to act quickly, and I believe we should move from freezing assets to seizing assets.” Estonia and Poland have also expressed support to seize assets.

Posted previously by @SouthAussie

We do donate our own money geez.