Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #2

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IMO NATO is and must navigate this entire situation thoughtfully, yet sternly. I feel they have appropriately responded with outrage, and are prepared to protect alliance members. With NATO being part of Putins grievance, I believe they know that direct intervention between Russia and Ukraine will trigger war outside of Ukraine.

Thank you for this nicely phrased comment.

I think this takes very experienced diplomats with nerves of steel to keep the response from allowing Putin to use it as an excuse for a conflagration.
 
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The streets may be empty but there are still thousands of people in Kyiv. It would be a mass slaughter.
A friend of mine is sitting in the boiler room of a hotel. After needed surgery he cannot go home to the eastern part of the country, nor can he get back to the hospital for more follow up treatment.
Thousands are in Kyiv basements and subways, with their children, pets and a few belongings.
It's insane.
 
  • #425
The Ukraine "issue"? Yes China, let's all have a chat to ease tensions while Russia continues to bombing the h#ll out of innocent civilians. :rolleyes::mad:

Chinese Embassy in UK on Twitter
On the #Ukraine issue. Both #China and #France held that the most urgent task is to push the parties concerned to start diplomatic negotiations as soon as possible to ease tensions, abandon bloc confrontation and seek a solution that accommodates concerns of all parties.
 
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What is a Spanish military plane doing landing in Poland?

? Evacuating Spanish citizens who fled Ukraine?
Not sure but, A400 Airbus is a large Cargo plane
Did find information on the Airbus flights in the last few days

Appears Belgium is very active back and forth to Yuma,AZ.

Anybody know what's in Yuma???

DATE AIRLINE/OPERATOR FLIGHT ORIGIN STD DESTINATION STA AIRCRAFT STATUS DURATION REPLAY
2022 Feb 28

TUAF218 Kayseri (ASR/LTAU) A400(18-0094) Live
LIVE

2022 Feb 27Belgian Air Force
GRZLY04 Yuma, AZ (YUM/KNYL) A400(CT-06) Departed

2022 Feb 27 Belgian Air Force
GRZLY03 Yuma, AZ (YUM/KNYL) A400(CT-05) Departed
2022 Feb 27

German Air Force
GAF478 Ljubljana (LJU/LJLJ) Wunstorf Airport(ETNW) A400(54+31) Landed 23:36 CET 01h22m

2022 Feb 27
German Air Force
GAF950 Ljubljana (LJU/LJLJ) Rzeszów (RZE/EPRZ) A400(54+36) Landed 23:42 CET 01h36m

2022 Feb 27
Belgian Air Force
GRZLY03 Yuma, AZ (YUM/KNYL) Yuma, AZ (YUM/KNYL) A400(CT-05) Landed 14:11 MST 00h43m

2022 Feb 27
AME3100 First seen near
Rzeszów, Poland A400(TK.23-11) Status N/A
2022 Feb 27

RRR4026 Quebec (YQB/CYQB)
12:45EST
Calgary, AB (YYC/CYYC) A400(ZM417) Est. Arrival 18:22 MST 05h46m
LIVE

2022 Feb 27
AME3102 Madrid (TOJ/LETO) Rzeszów (RZE/EPRZ) A400(T.23-05) Landed 22:04 CET 04h03m
2022 Feb 27

German Air Force
GAF502 Kaunas (KUN/EYKA) Wunstorf Airport(ETNW) A400(54+12) Landed 19:38 CET 01h47m
2022 Feb 27

German Air Force
GAF478 Wunstorf Airport(ETNW) Ljubljana (LJU/LJLJ) A400(54+31) Landed 18:11 CET 01h34m
2022 Feb 27

German Air Force
GAF950 Wunstorf Airport(ETNW) Ljubljana (LJU/LJLJ) A400(54+36) Landed 17:52 CET 01h31m
2022 Feb 27
Belgian Air Force

GRZLY01 Yuma, AZ (YUM/KNYL) Yuma, AZ (YUM/KNYL) A400(CT-05) Landed 09:13 MST 01h02m

2022 Feb 27
AME3102 Zaragoza (ZAZ/LEZG) Madrid (TOJ/LETO) A400


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I’ve just found out that Zelensky was the voice of Paddington Bear in the Ukraine dubbed version of the movie. He also won Strictly/Dancing over there.

He seems to have an ever increasing international fan base. Mad Vlad must be fuming!

Bravest man in the world:)

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Not sure but, A400 Airbus is a large Cargo plane
Did find information on the Airbus flights in the last few days

Appears Belgium is very active back and forth to Yuma,AZ.

Anybody know what's in Yuma???

DATE AIRLINE/OPERATOR FLIGHT ORIGIN STD DESTINATION STA AIRCRAFT STATUS DURATION REPLAY
2022 Feb 28

TUAF218 Kayseri (ASR/LTAU) A400(18-0094) Live
LIVE

2022 Feb 27Belgian Air Force
GRZLY04 Yuma, AZ (YUM/KNYL) A400(CT-06) Departed

2022 Feb 27 Belgian Air Force
GRZLY03 Yuma, AZ (YUM/KNYL) A400(CT-05) Departed
2022 Feb 27

German Air Force
GAF478 Ljubljana (LJU/LJLJ) Wunstorf Airport(ETNW) A400(54+31) Landed 23:36 CET 01h22m

2022 Feb 27
German Air Force
GAF950 Ljubljana (LJU/LJLJ) Rzeszów (RZE/EPRZ) A400(54+36) Landed 23:42 CET 01h36m

2022 Feb 27
Belgian Air Force
GRZLY03 Yuma, AZ (YUM/KNYL) Yuma, AZ (YUM/KNYL) A400(CT-05) Landed 14:11 MST 00h43m

2022 Feb 27
AME3100 First seen near
Rzeszów, Poland A400(TK.23-11) Status N/A
2022 Feb 27

RRR4026 Quebec (YQB/CYQB)
12:45EST
Calgary, AB (YYC/CYYC) A400(ZM417) Est. Arrival 18:22 MST 05h46m
LIVE

2022 Feb 27
AME3102 Madrid (TOJ/LETO) Rzeszów (RZE/EPRZ) A400(T.23-05) Landed 22:04 CET 04h03m
2022 Feb 27

German Air Force
GAF502 Kaunas (KUN/EYKA) Wunstorf Airport(ETNW) A400(54+12) Landed 19:38 CET 01h47m
2022 Feb 27

German Air Force
GAF478 Wunstorf Airport(ETNW) Ljubljana (LJU/LJLJ) A400(54+31) Landed 18:11 CET 01h34m
2022 Feb 27

German Air Force
GAF950 Wunstorf Airport(ETNW) Ljubljana (LJU/LJLJ) A400(54+36) Landed 17:52 CET 01h31m
2022 Feb 27
Belgian Air Force

GRZLY01 Yuma, AZ (YUM/KNYL) Yuma, AZ (YUM/KNYL) A400(CT-05) Landed 09:13 MST 01h02m

2022 Feb 27
AME3102 Zaragoza (ZAZ/LEZG) Madrid (TOJ/LETO) A400


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Not sure but, A400 Airbus is a large Cargo plane
Did find information on the Airbus flights in the last few days

Appears Belgium is very active back and forth to Yuma,AZ.

Anybody know what's in Yuma???

Could be something to do with arms transfers. US shipping arms out to Ukraine.


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  • #433
Thank you for this nicely phrased comment.

I think this takes very experienced diplomats with nerves of steel to keep the response from allowing Putin to use it as an excuse for a conflagration.


I believe their stomachs are a mess, and they have been unable to get a good nights sleep the last 4 days. Knowing that a decision you make could have a direct impact on humanity globally can not be an easy position to be in. The thoughts today, and potential PTSD down the road as a result of being one of those decision makers isn’t something to take lightly.
 
  • #434
Not sure but, A400 Airbus is a large Cargo plane
Did find information on the Airbus flights in the last few days

Appears Belgium is very active back and forth to Yuma,AZ.

Anybody know what's in Yuma???

DATE AIRLINE/OPERATOR FLIGHT ORIGIN STD DESTINATION STA AIRCRAFT STATUS DURATION REPLAY
2022 Feb 28

TUAF218 Kayseri (ASR/LTAU) A400(18-0094) Live
LIVE

2022 Feb 27Belgian Air Force
GRZLY04 Yuma, AZ (YUM/KNYL) A400(CT-06) Departed

2022 Feb 27 Belgian Air Force
GRZLY03 Yuma, AZ (YUM/KNYL) A400(CT-05) Departed
2022 Feb 27

German Air Force
GAF478 Ljubljana (LJU/LJLJ) Wunstorf Airport(ETNW) A400(54+31) Landed 23:36 CET 01h22m

2022 Feb 27
German Air Force
GAF950 Ljubljana (LJU/LJLJ) Rzeszów (RZE/EPRZ) A400(54+36) Landed 23:42 CET 01h36m

2022 Feb 27
Belgian Air Force
GRZLY03 Yuma, AZ (YUM/KNYL) Yuma, AZ (YUM/KNYL) A400(CT-05) Landed 14:11 MST 00h43m

2022 Feb 27
AME3100 First seen near
Rzeszów, Poland A400(TK.23-11) Status N/A
2022 Feb 27

RRR4026 Quebec (YQB/CYQB)
12:45EST
Calgary, AB (YYC/CYYC) A400(ZM417) Est. Arrival 18:22 MST 05h46m
LIVE

2022 Feb 27
AME3102 Madrid (TOJ/LETO) Rzeszów (RZE/EPRZ) A400(T.23-05) Landed 22:04 CET 04h03m
2022 Feb 27

German Air Force
GAF502 Kaunas (KUN/EYKA) Wunstorf Airport(ETNW) A400(54+12) Landed 19:38 CET 01h47m
2022 Feb 27

German Air Force
GAF478 Wunstorf Airport(ETNW) Ljubljana (LJU/LJLJ) A400(54+31) Landed 18:11 CET 01h34m
2022 Feb 27

German Air Force
GAF950 Wunstorf Airport(ETNW) Ljubljana (LJU/LJLJ) A400(54+36) Landed 17:52 CET 01h31m
2022 Feb 27
Belgian Air Force

GRZLY01 Yuma, AZ (YUM/KNYL) Yuma, AZ (YUM/KNYL) A400(CT-05) Landed 09:13 MST 01h02m

2022 Feb 27
AME3102 Zaragoza (ZAZ/LEZG) Madrid (TOJ/LETO) A400


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I did read that :
Febr 24
‘Eight Dutch fighter planes are being deployed to monitor NATO airspace over Eastern Europe. Two Dutch F-35s were the first to take to the air for this on Thursday. Later in the day, they were replaced by two F-16s, the Defense Ministry said.’

This deployment is separate from the two F-35s that will monitor the airspace in southeastern Europe in April and May. Both these aircraft are then stationed in Bulgaria with about ninety support personnel.

SBM
Nederland stuurt acht gevechtsvliegtuigen naar Oost-Europa

According to google (?)/people ask:

Can F-35 be tracked?

Stealth fighters such as America's F-22 Raptor and F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter aren't technically invisible, but they are difficult to track on radar. Now the People's Republic of China is claiming its latest fixed-wing early warning aircraft (AEW) can track such aircraft.
 
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Ukrainians return from abroad to fight Russian invasion | AP News
Poland’s Border Guard said Sunday that some 22,000 people have crossed into Ukraine since Thursday, when Russia invaded the country.

At the checkpoint in Medyka, in southeastern Poland, many stood in a line early Sunday to cross into Ukraine.

“We have to defend our homeland. Who else if not us?” said a moustachioed man in front of a group of some 20 Ukrainian truck drivers walking to the checkpoint to enter Ukraine. They came from across Europe to return to Ukraine.
 
  • #436
I believe their stomachs are a mess, and they have been unable to get a good nights sleep the last 4 days. Knowing that a decision you make could have a direct impact on humanity globally can not be an easy position to be in. The thoughts today, and potential PTSD down the road as a result of being one of those decision makers isn’t something to take lightly.

This is why negotiations exist. To allow discussions and small movements without engaging massive, catastrophic actions.

No hotheads needed.

This is why the US is deliberately avoiding direct confrontation.

It's a bit like having to be the bomb detonation unit with the largest bomb in the world so far.
 
  • #437
The Ukraine "issue"? Yes China, let's all have a chat to ease tensions while Russia continues to bombing the h#ll out of innocent civilians. :rolleyes::mad:

Chinese Embassy in UK on Twitter
On the #Ukraine issue. Both #China and #France held that the most urgent task is to push the parties concerned to start diplomatic negotiations as soon as possible to ease tensions, abandon bloc confrontation and seek a solution that accommodates concerns of all parties.

The problem is that Russia doesn't want to "negotiate". The only solution for Putin, is the capitulation of Ukraine. And putting in his own puppet government.

It digusts me to no end that many countries just want to pretend like this doesn't affect them, and is none of their business. Israel is one...how can Israel just ignore this? Over 200,000 people of Jewish heritage live in Ukraine, and could request resettlement.

Bennett said to tell ministers to keep 'low profile,' not speak out over Ukraine | The Times of Israel
 
  • #438
Red BBM - Marines. :)

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Looks like Bio terrorism unit from the photos

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My RN sister, in NC said 3 of their critical nurses have been called up under the reserves. This was Thursday. No notice and have 24 hours to departure to unknown destination. She's been watch FB for any updates. Moo..
 
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What a nightmare. These poor people. :(

Russia's war on Ukraine: Where fighting is on now (Feb. 27 live updates) (kyivindependent.com)

5 p.m.


Mykolaiv, Mykolaiv Oblast: Ukraine’s National Guard stopped food trucks with ATB signs on them. ATB is Ukraine’s widespread supermarket chain. Inside the trucks there were Russian military personnel. As a result of the battle, all of them were neutralized.

[...]

4 p.m.

Sumy, Sumy Oblast: Russians opened fire on a civilian car. There were two adults and three children in the car, including an infant. One woman was hit in the head by a bullet. The woman died.

[...]

Konotop, Sumy Oblast: Russian saboteurs entered a local meat processing plant, breaking the locks. They change into civilian clothes and go back to the city, Suspilne Sumy reports.

[...]

3 p.m.

Pryluky, Chernihiv Oblast: Ukrainian army destroyed a tank company, both the vehicles and the soldiers, of the Russian army not far from Pryluky in Chernihiv Oblast.

[...]

Vinnytsya, Vinnytsya Oblast: Ukraine’s Police arrested a saboteur. The man was placing special marks, allegedly used to help the enemy maneuver around the country. He had an automatic gun with an optical sight, additional ammunition and other relevant equipment.

Mariupol, Donetsk Oblast: Another residential area was shelled in Mariupol.

2 p.m.

[...]

Kyiv, Kyiv Oblast: Russian saboteur has been spotted trying to plant explosives in one of Kyiv’s residential complexes. A local resident has noticed a bearded man leaving a backpack in the hallway of the building and leaving shortly. A man called the police. Policeman found explosives in the backpack and later caught an enemy himself. They are now looking for two more members of his sabotage reconnaissance group.

Chernihiv, Chernihiv Oblast: Russians shelled the downtown of Chernihiv, a city in the north of Ukraine. Apparently the enemy targeted the local city council, but the missile hit the yard between the dental clinic and a residential building, Suspilne Chernihiv reports.

Black Sea: Russian warships took control of two more Ukrainian civilian ships. Ukrainian tanker “Afina” and a dry cargo ship “Princess Nicole” were given a command by a Russian warship to approach for a check-up. As soon as they approached the communication with them was cut off, the next time both of them were spotted on the radar were some 18 miles from the shore of the occupied Crimea. Both ships were heading to Zmiinyi (Snake) Island.

1 p.m.

Irpin, Kyiv Oblast: Three private residential buildings are on fire in Irpin, a small town not far from the capital, Suspilne reports. The houses caught fire after a recent shelling. There is a risk that there can be people taking shelter in the basements of the buildings.

Kahovka, Kherson Oblast: Police warn city residents to not leave town. The Russian forces open fire at all the civilian cars.

[...]

12 p.m.

Kharkiv, Kharkiv Oblast: Street fights have been ongoing in the city for the last 4 hours. Locals report enemy vehicles in many parts of the city, including the downtown. Ukrainian army forces fight back – many Russian soldiers and saboutures are taken captive, cars and armed vehicles destroyed.

Trostyanets, Sumy Oblast: Russian soldiers steal food supplies from a local store, reports State’s Special Communication services sharing a video from, what looks like, a store’s surveillance camera.

Dmytrivka, Kyiv Oblast: Russian armed vehicle column marked with letter V is spotted near Dmytrivka village in Kyiv Oblast,not far from Bucha, Kyiv’s satellite town heavily shelled during the last two days. The column is reportedly heading towards Zabuchya, another small village in the area north of Kyiv. Early Ukraine’s Army Commanders asked Ukrainians to watch out for this particular column. According to the army message distributed online, the column has some “special tasks”.

11 a.m.

[...]

Kyiv, Kyiv Oblast: Two more explosions audible from city center.

Koryukivka, Chernihiv Oblast: A crowd of unarmed people in the city of Koryukivka stepped out in front of Russian tanks, halting their forward movement, Novoye Vremya reported. The news site posted a mobile phone video of stationary tanks in front of a big group of civilians. A second video showed the crowd slowly walking towards the tanks that were backing up.

[...]

Okhtyrka, Sumy Oblast: Ukrainian Public Broadcaster Suspilne reported that Russian forces have shot up a bus full of civilians around Okhtyrka and are not allowing ambulances to reach the site. According to Suspilne, the area has been mined but family doctors are making their way to the spot on foot.

10 a.m.

Chornobayivka. Kherson Oblast: The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine posted a video of what appears to be a convoy of trucks getting hit from the air — Ukraine’s top commander Valerii Zaluzhnyi said this was a strike against Russian vehicles by a Ukrainian, Turkish-made Bayraktar drone.

Bucha, Kyiv Oblast: The Ukrainian military blew up the bridge between the towns of Bucha and Irpin to slow down Russian troops, Novoye Vremya reported, posting a picture of a large plume of smoke in the area. Russian troops have been blocked off in Bucha, according to Novoye Vremya.

9 a.m.

Kyiv, Kyiv Oblast: The air force has shot down a cruise missile fired at Kyiv from Belarus, Ukraine’s top military commander Valerii Zaluzhnyi reported on Facebook. He called it “yet another war crime” by Belarus and Russia.

A 16-story building in Kyiv’s outer Troeshchina district has been blasted by an explosion, igniting seven nearby parked cars, according to the Kyiv City State Administration.

Okhtyrka, Sumy Oblast: Two Danish journalists were shot in the town of Okhtyrka but have been taken to the hospital and are “out of danger,” according to the Daily Beast. Okhtyrka has seen some fierce fighting since the invasion began.

8 a.m.

Kharkiv, Kharkiv Oblast: Russian troops have broken through into the center of Kharkiv, Oleh Sinehubov, the head of the regional government, posted on Facebook at 7:35 a.m. The Ukrainians are waging street battles with the Russians, civilians have been advised not to leave their homes or shelters.

Bucha, Kyiv Oblast: Several Ukrainian news outlets and Telegram channels posted photos of a burning nine-story residential building in Bucha, Kyiv Oblast. Ukrainska Pravda cited sources in the President’s Office and among other authorities that the fire was caused by shelling.

[...]
 
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