Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #2

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It's probably not what is said in American English but "a cornered cat makes weird jumps" I'm very afraid what this loonie is able to do next.

It’s not even said in English English :D
 
  • #642
It's probably not what is said in American English but "a cornered cat makes weird jumps" I'm very afraid what this loonie is able to do next.
Sen. Rubio made a comment yesterday about "something off" with Putin. Rubio is on the intelligence committee. Then last night former director of national intelligence James Clapper echoed that, saying that Putin is acting oddly. I believe that when this started Putin left Moscow and is at a facility in the Ural Mountains with his top officials. This seems almost paranoid type of behavior. It also leaves him isolated from the growing protests in his own country.
 
  • #643
It’s not even said in English English :D

So what is it in English, English hahahaha, they must have be a saying coming close to this. There are problems with WS
 
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The so called peace talks are finished.....no news about the results....Belarus should be sanctioned like Russia....there are already a lot of sanctions on Belarus....we should make them the same now as they are for Russia.....can't pull a source up right now...heard it on our national news.
 
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The Foreign Ministry of Belarus is preparing for the meeting between Ukraine and Russia.

On their twitter , they write that they are waiting for the delegates, and have shared a picture on the negotiating table.

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I’m nervous and hope that Ukrainian delegates will not touch that water ! MOO


Liverapportering: Ryska invasionen av Ukraina

I keep getting flashes of the red wedding in my mind every time these negotiations are mentioned.
 
  • #646
Sen. Rubio made a comment yesterday about "something off" with Putin. Rubio is on the intelligence committee. Then last night former director of national intelligence James Clapper echoed that, saying that Putin is acting oddly. I believe that when this started Putin left Moscow and is at a facility in the Ural Mountains with his top officials. This seems almost paranoid type of behavior. It also leaves him isolated from the growing protests in his own country.

At least he has a cleanliness neurosis...or he is afraid somebody is going to poison him...like he did to others...I sure hope the Ukrainian delegation kept away from anybody and didn't eat or drink anything on this ridiculous long table. It's paranoid altogether.
 
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Putin's Attack on Ukraine Is an Attempt to Delay His Own Inevitable Demise — TIME

Putin fears death—like any 69-year-old. His fear, however, is particularly acute. He makes (or so the consistent rumour goes) visiting officials submit faeces test to ensure they are disease free. Since COVID-19, officials have to isolate several days before they see him. Those who don’t, like the visiting French President Emmanuel Macron, are seated down the other end of an absurdly long table. Is Putin immune-compromised? Maybe. He’s clearly petrified and paranoid of death.

Unlike the rest of us, he can project his fears onto whole countries. In his embarrassing ramblings about Ukraine he never talks about the future—he wants to escape the future and what it brings. He “justifies” his invasion through the desire to return the past: take Ukraine back to the 19th century, to the Soviet Union, to his youth. He rambles menacingly about restoring the glories of the Russian Empire, picking apart Lenin’s creation of Soviet Republics, undoing the revolution against his satrap Viktor Yanukovych in 2014.

When he met President Macron, Putin quoted a vile Russian rape joke where sleeping beauty is sexually abused. Conflating Ukraine and Sleeping Beauty, he put himself in the role of the rapist: “Whether you like it or not my beauty, you will need to put up with all I do to you.” The choice of fairy tale was telling. Sleeping Beauty never gets old, even as the castle around her overgrows with rust and ivy.

In his replies the 44-year-old Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky quipped “Ukraine is indeed a beauty but she’s not yours.”

How easy it would have been for Putin to create a flourishing Russia, with its vast oil wealth and human talent, to become a country that Ukraine would want to be close to! Instead, he created a country that stinks of fear, death, and murder that Ukraine has been trying to escape from. The Soviet writer Alexander Solzhenitsyn once found a metaphor for the Kremlin’s system in the title of one of his novels: Cancer Ward. It remains a potent metaphor. Cancers want to spread: to metastasize through Europe and beyond.

Putin’s diagnosis is terminal. Who will it kill? Ukraine is fighting to the death—and choosing life.
 
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  • #649
The so called peace talks are finished.....no news about the results....Belarus should be sanctioned like Russia....there are already a lot of sanctions on Belarus....we should make them the same now as they are for Russia.....can't pull a source up right now...heard it on our national news.


Ukraine live updates: Ukraine asks for ceasefire in talks with Russia - BBC News

Russian and Ukrainian representatives have concluded talks held in Belarus aimed at brokering peace amid the ongoing conflict.

Both sides will return to their capital cities for consultation ahead of a second round of talks, which could take place in the coming days, the Reuters news agency cites Belarus' Belta news as saying.

Expectations for a peaceful resolution had not been high before Monday's meeting.

Ukraine said it wanted a ceasefire and Russian withdrawal, while the Kremlin said it would not announce its position. Russia's negotiators have talked of striking a deal that's in the interests of both sides.
 
  • #650
So what is it in English, English hahahaha, they must have be a saying coming close to this. There are problems with WS

Nobody puts baby in a corner. :)

I jest.

It's "fight like a cornered cat".
 
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Talks end between Russia and Ukraine

From CNN's Seb Shukla and Tim Lister

Russian and Ukrainian talks have ended in Belarus and the two parties have returned to their capitals for consultations, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky's adviser, Mikhaylo Podolyak, told reporters after the talks.

"Ukrainian and Russian delegations held the first round of negotiations. Their main goal was to discuss ceasefire and the end of combat actions on the territory of Ukraine. The parties have determined the topics where certain decisions were mapped out. In order for these decisions to be implemented as roadmap, the parties are returning for consultations to their capitals. The parties discussed holding another round of negotiations where these decisions can develop," he said Monday.
In the last few moments, three large explosions were heard in Kyiv.

Live updates: Russia invades Ukraine
 
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Putin's Attack on Ukraine Is an Attempt to Delay His Own Inevitable Demise — TIME

Putin fears death—like any 69-year-old. His fear, however, is particularly acute. He makes (or so the consistent rumour goes) visiting officials submit faeces test to ensure they are disease free. Since COVID-19, officials have to isolate several days before they see him. Those who don’t, like the visiting French President Emmanuel Macron, are seated down the other end of an absurdly long table. Is Putin immune-compromised? Maybe. He’s clearly petrified and paranoid of death.

Unlike the rest of us, he can project his fears onto whole countries. In his embarrassing ramblings about Ukraine he never talks about the future—he wants to escape the future and what it brings. He “justifies” his invasion through the desire to return the past: take Ukraine back to the 19th century, to the Soviet Union, to his youth. He rambles menacingly about restoring the glories of the Russian Empire, picking apart Lenin’s creation of Soviet Republics, undoing the revolution against his satrap Viktor Yanukovych in 2014.

When he met President Macron, Putin quoted a vile Russian rape joke where sleeping beauty is sexually abused. Conflating Ukraine and Sleeping Beauty, he put himself in the role of the rapist: “Whether you like it or not my beauty, you will need to put up with all I do to you.” The choice of fairy tale was telling. Sleeping Beauty never gets old, even as the castle around her overgrows with rust and ivy.

In his replies the 44-year-old Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky quipped “Ukraine is indeed a beauty but she’s not yours.”

How easy it would have been for Putin to create a flourishing Russia, with its vast oil wealth and human talent, to become a country that Ukraine would want to be close to! Instead, he created a country that stinks of fear, death, and murder that Ukraine has been trying to escape from. The Soviet writer Alexander Solzhenitsyn once found a metaphor for the Kremlin’s system in the title of one of his novels: Cancer Ward. It remains a potent metaphor. Cancers want to spread: to metastasize through Europe and beyond.

Putin’s diagnosis is terminal. Who will it kill? Ukraine is fighting to the death—and choosing life.

Yes, I think this is it...but who is he taking along....
 
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Moo.... i do not think this is turning into the legacy that Putin hoped for. He has backed himself into a corner now. How will his ego deal with this? No way i can see that he can come out of this situation and be as respected as he was. Moo
 
  • #655
Moo.... i do not think this is turning into the legacy that Putin hoped for. He has backed himself into a corner now. How will his ego deal with this? No way i can see that he can come out of this situation and be as respected as he was. Moo

He is digging his own grave....but again....seeing his head going totally red....he is a person who is going to lash out...
 
  • #656
It's probably not what is said in American English but "a cornered cat makes weird jumps" I'm very afraid what this loonie is able to do next.


Dutch

Don’t know what his next move will be.
 
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Private jet left Minsk for St Peterburg, about an hour ago. This is the only flight I've observed in Belarus, yesterday or today.
That sounds like the talking is done.
 
  • #658
Whoa… this is huge!

Switzerland says it will freeze Russian assets, setting aside a tradition of neutrality.


GENEVA — Switzerland, a favorite destination for Russian oligarchs and their money, announced on Monday that it would freeze Russian financial assets in the country, setting aside a deeply rooted tradition of neutrality to join the European Union and a growing number of nations seeking to penalize Russia for the invasion of Ukraine.

After a meeting with the Swiss Federal Council, Switzerland’s president, Ignazio Cassis, said that the country would immediately freeze the assets of Russia’s president, Vladimir V. Putin, Prime Minister Mikhail V. Mishustin and Foreign Minister Sergey V. Lavrov, as well as all 367 individuals sanctioned last week by the European Union.

Switzerland said it was departing from its usual policy of neutrality because of “the unprecedented military attack by Russia on a sovereign European state,” but expressed a willingness to help mediate in the conflict. It also joined European neighbors in closing its airspace to Russian aircraft, except for humanitarian or diplomatic purposes. But said it would evaluate whether to join in subsequent E.U. sanctions on a case-by-case basis.
Wow I didn't think they'd do it. I don't know if I'm pleased or sad...maybe both
 
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Героям слава!
 
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