Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #4

[Kiranerys]

There’s 4.546 litres in a gallon so approx 4.5 x £1.60 litre in U.K. = £7.20/$9.53

The regional difference is interesting. It's coming in at around £6.70 here in the South West (I'm just outside of Bristol)

 

[mickey2942]

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I have been wondering about Moldova. Carefully treading on their "neutral" position. Which really means, toady for Russia, INMO.

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[PommyMommy]

News Archive – The Kyiv Independent

Sunday, March 6

18:20 Ukrainian actor Pavlo Lee killed during fighting in Kyiv Oblast.
Lee, who joined the Territorial Defense unit, was killed near the town of Irpin near Kyiv, journalist Yaroslav Kuts said on Facebook on March 6.

17:25 Putin: Russia to stop war only if Ukraine surrenders, meets Russian demands.
Russian dictator Vladimir Putin said that Russia is ready to negotiate after “all known Russian demands are met.”

17:19 Putin says meeting with Ukraine, IAEA possible.
Russian dictator Vladimir Putin said during a phone call with French President Emmanuel Macron that a meeting with the International Atomic Energy Agency devoted to Ukrainian nuclear facilities may take place outside Ukraine or as part of a video conference. Russia had shelled the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant on March 4.

16:45 Donetsk Oblast Governor: Evacuation from Mariupol blocked by Russian shelling.
Governor Pavlo Kyrylenko said evacuation from Mariupol was disrupted for the second time due to the continuation of Russian attacks on the city.

16:08 Russian troops shell nuclear research facility in Kharkiv.
The Kharkiv branch of Ukraine’s Security Service reported that Russia used Grad multiple rocket launchers to shell the Kharkiv Physics and Technology Institute.

15:40 Kuleba: 20,000 foreigners volunteer to fight Russia.
Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said the foreigners from 52 countries have applied to join Ukraine’s military.

15:01 Prosecutors charge pro-Kremlin lawmaker with high treason.
Prosecutor General Iryna Venediktova authorized charges against MP Illia Kyva, member of the pro-Kremlin Opposition Platform. He’s alleged of taking part in Russian war propaganda and illegal possession of firearms.

14:52 Zelensky: 8 rockets fired at Vinnytsia, airport destroyed.
President Volodymyr Zelensky confirmed that a Russian airstrike destroyed a civilian airport in the regional capital Vinnytsia.

14:17 Thousands protest against Russian occupation in Kherson Oblast.
The March 6 rally in Russian-occupied Nova Kakhovka, featuring Ukrainian flags, follows similar pro-Ukrainian rallies in Kherson and other Ukrainian cities.

14:04 Over 1,000 people detained in Russia for protesting against war in Ukraine.
According to Russian human rights media project OVD-Info, the demonstrators have been detained in 35 cities.

13:47 Moody's downgrades Russia's credit rating close to default.
Rating agency Moody’s expects the Russian economy to shrink by 7% in 2022 and decline further in 2023.

13:39 Ombudsman: 38 children killed, 71 wounded in Russia's war.
The casualties include a one-and-a-half-year-old boy who died in a shelling by the Russian occupiers in Mariupol, Donetsk Oblast, according to Ukraine’s Commissioner for Human Rights Lyudmila Denisova.

13:30 Zelensky says Russian people still have time to do the right thing, says Kremlin to soon bomb Odesa.
In his most recent video address, President Volodymyr Zelensky said that “the citizens of Russia are right now choosing between freedom and slavery.” He added that Ukraine has maps and records, obtained from captured Russian soldiers. “They are planning to bomb Odesa,” he said.

13:16 NBC: US in talks with Poland to supply Ukraine with fighter jets.
The U.S. and Poland are working together to provide Polish Russian-made warplanes to Ukraine and replenish Poland with U.S.-made jets, according to NBC’s source in the White House.

12:03 Ministry of Digital Transformation launches TV service on state app.
The users of the government app Diia can now watch a joint marathon by Ukrainian TV channels covering Russia’s war on their smartphones. TV broadcasting in Ukraine has been interrupted due to Russian attacks on TV towers.

11:42 Media: Russian forces fire at civilians in Irpin, kill at least 3 civilians.
Russian troops deliberately targeted a bridge used by civilians to evacuate, according to media reports. At least 3 people were killed including 2 children. On March 5, three volunteers were shot and killed by Russian occupiers in this area.

11:25 EU's $547 million is the first tranche of the bloc's humanitarian help to Ukrainian refugees.
The sum will be used to cover the costs of states that have faced the mass influx of refugees from Ukraine.

10:54 Second attempt to evacuate civilians from Mariupol to start at 12 p.m.
According to Donetsk Oblast Governor Pavlo Kyrylenko, a temporary ceasefire in the area will take place from 10 a.m. to 9 p.m. On March 5, Russian forces broke the ceasefire to provide evacuation despite an agreement with Ukraine.

10:36 Jamala says she raised 67 million euros for Ukraine at Eurovision selection in Germany.
The Ukrainian singer was a Eurovision winner in 2016. She raised the sum due to performing her winning song at the national Eurovision selection in Germany on March 4.

10:00 City council: Bucha in dire need of humanitarian corridor.
According to the local authorities in Bucha, a city outside of Kyiv that has been a hot spot, the Russian military shell residential buildings, cars, shoot at civilians and don’t spare children. There is also no access to water, heating, electricity, internet, and food, the city council says.

09:35 Eleventh day of Russia's war: over 11,000 Russian troops killed.
According to indicative estimates of Ukraine’s military, Russia also lost 285 tanks, 985 armored fighting vehicles, 109 artillery pieces, 50 MLRS, 21 anti-aircraft warfare, 44 planes, 48 helicopters, 447 cars, 2 speedboats, 60 fuel tanks, and 4 UAVs.

 

[sds71]

Wife of WNBA star Brittney Griner says they are desperately working to get her home from Russia | Daily Mail Online

 

[PommyMommy]

MAR 6, 2022
Putin says Ukraine responsible for March 3 power plant incident - Kremlin | Reuters
LONDON, March 6 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin on Sunday accused Ukrainian radicals for an incident on March 3 at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in Ukraine, the Kremlin said.

French President Emmanuel Macron asked Putin by telephone about a fire at Europe's biggest nuclear power plant.

"Vladimir Putin informed [Macron] about the provocation by Ukrainian radicals in the area of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant," the Kremlin said. "The radiation levels are normal."

Putin also accused Ukraine of preventing civilians from leaving Mariupol.

[...]

 

[Herat]

I have been wondering about Moldova. Carefully treading on their "neutral" position. Which really means, toady for Russia, INMO.

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I think their neutral position is real, and comes from a long time of having been roughed up over and over again by Russia.

It's in their constitution, and has served them well since their independence in 1991.

The reliable news sources are reporting they have now changed their minds about the EU and probably the most important reason US Secretary of State Blinken was in Europe was not to appear to support Ukraine by visiting Poland to meet with the Ukraniane officials, but to visit Moldova to talk to their President who wants strong US support.

Today's threat by Putin to bomb Odessa is also likely partly due to the US Secretary of States appearance in Moldova, reminding them that Odessa is only about 115 miles from the border and can easily reach them if Odessa is taken

Edited: Need to find MSM documentation, thanks

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Hopefully a step in the right direction for Belarus:

The deputy minister of defence for Belarus has reportedly submitted his resignation and claimed he cannot support the current Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Major General Viktor Gulevich argued that Belarusian military unit personnel refused to take part in hostilities and that the Armed Forces of Belarus could not complete a single battalion group.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10582905/Belarus-deputy-minister-QUITS-Ukraine-war.html
Belarus deputy minister QUITS over Ukraine war | Daily Mail Online

 

[Herat]

I'm sort of worried about France's Macron.

He seems to be a bit outside of the group and it seems like Putin is targeting him for some reason. Maybe he thinks he is weak, or politically ambitious, or could possiby unintentionally divulge information. Putin made every attempt to show the world what he thought of Macron with the "big table photo.

Putin is very well trained in psychological profiling. He knows how to pick the weakest links.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Vladimir Putin hiding Alina Kabaeva, kids in Switzerland

 

[CrimeAway]

The mortar shells fell first 100 or so yards from the bridge, then shifted in a series of thunderous blasts into a section of street where people were fleeing.

As the mortars got closer to the stream of civilians, people ran, pulling children, trying to find a safe spot. But there was nothing to hide behind. A shell landed in the street, sending up a cloud of concrete dust and leaving one family — a mother, a father, a teenage son and a daughter who appeared about 8 years old — sprawled on the ground.

Soldiers rushed to help, but the woman and children were dead. The father still had a pulse but was unconscious and severely wounded.

Their luggage, a blue roller suitcase and some backpacks, was scattered about, along with a green carrying case for a small dog that was barking...

The shelling suggested either targeting of the evacuation routes from Irpin, something of which the Ukrainian authorities have accused the Russian army after a railroad track used for evacuations was hit on Saturday, or disregard for the risk of civilian casualties.

There's an article on the DM website about civilians who were killed fleeing Irpin. I think that same family is pictured. It's so sad.

Ukrainians run as Russian bombs rain on Irpin while ceasefire to protect 400k civilians shattered | Daily Mail Online

 

[Sundog]

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I think their neutral position is real, and comes from a long time of having been roughed up over and over again by Russia.

Today's threats from Russia to destroy Odessa are likely a reaction to the SOS vistit to Moldova, trying to emphasize the threat, as Odessa is only 115 miles from the border.

It's in their constitution, and has served them well since their independence in 1991.

The reliable news sources are reporting they have now changed their minds about the EU and NATO and probably the most important reason US Secretary of State Blinken was in Europe was not to appear to support Ukraine by visiting Poland to meet with the Ukraniane officials, but to visit Moldova to talk to their President who wants the US to sponsor their NATO application, and get the process started, poste haste.

Getting Moldova under the cover of NATO would be a huge benefit to Moldova, of course, but would also benefit the Allies tremendously in being able to provide support and surveillance of what Russia is doing in Ukraine, and a buffer for Romania.

Today's threat by Putin to bomb Odessa is also likely partly due to the US Secretary of States appearance in Moldova, reminding them that Odessa is only about 115 miles from the border and can easily reach them if Odessa is taken

I haven't seen the MSM reports that Moldova has changed its mind about wanting to join NATO, if you have a link, I'd be interested in reading about it.

 

[JerseyGirl]

On Ukraine’s Border, Moldovans Wonder: Where Will Putin Stop?
Moldovans fear that Transnistria, a region run by Russia-backed separatists in eastern Moldova, might be the next target after Ukraine.

 

[CSIDreamer]

I think their neutral position is real, and comes from a long time of having been roughed up over and over again by Russia.

It's in their constitution, and has served them well since their independence in 1991.

The reliable news sources are reporting they have now changed their minds about the EU and NATO and probably the most important reason US Secretary of State Blinken was in Europe was not to appear to support Ukraine by visiting Poland to meet with the Ukraniane officials, but to visit Moldova to talk to their President who wants the US to sponsor their NATO application, and get the process started, poste haste.

Getting Moldova under the cover of NATO would be a huge benefit to Moldova, of course, but would also benefit the Allies tremendously in being able to provide support and surveillance of what Russia is doing in Ukraine, and a buffer for Romania.

Today's threat by Putin to bomb Odessa is also likely partly due to the US Secretary of States appearance in Moldova, reminding them that Odessa is only about 115 miles from the border and can easily reach them if Odessa is taken

Regarding Odessa, I'm of the opinion Russia has probably had amphibious landing ships floating around near there for days. JMO

 

[Sundog]

I think their neutral position is real, and comes from a long time of having been roughed up over and over again by Russia.

It's in their constitution, and has served them well since their independence in 1991.

The reliable news sources are reporting they have now changed their minds about the EU and NATO and probably the most important reason US Secretary of State Blinken was in Europe was not to appear to support Ukraine by visiting Poland to meet with the Ukraniane officials, but to visit Moldova to talk to their President who wants the US to sponsor their NATO application, and get the process started, poste haste.

Getting Moldova under the cover of NATO would be a huge benefit to Moldova, of course, but would also benefit the Allies tremendously in being able to provide support and surveillance of what Russia is doing in Ukraine, and a buffer for Romania.

Today's threat by Putin to bomb Odessa is also likely partly due to the US Secretary of States appearance in Moldova, reminding them that Odessa is only about 115 miles from the border and can easily reach them if Odessa is taken

Not sure what I think about the possibility of the U.S. sponsoring Moldova's NATO application. If Moldova decides that they want to join NATO, I think that should be a decision of all NATO members. If sponsorship is required, then this should also be a joint sponsorship, IMO. I don't think the U.S. should act alone on this.

 

[PommyMommy]

MAR 6, 2022
Knoxville man travels overseas to help out in Ukraine | WKRN News 2
[...]

Russ Frazier has been a physician, the chief of Knox County Rescue and a part of the Knox County Swat team. With the many titles he’s had over the years, his wife, Kim Frazier, said it all has prepared him for this moment. He’s now in Ukraine providing patient care and medical training to the military and citizens.

[...]

“Our teenage sons were so hopeful, and they said, ‘dad you have to do this,'” Kim said.

Within 12 hours, he was packed. His family said goodbye and are hoping he will be able to return home in two weeks.

[...]

Russ is taking part in assisting a non-government organization known Global Surgical Medical Support Group (GSMSG). The non-profit dedicates time toward providing medical relief to communities in need.

[...]

“If you have skills and talents and gifts, give them,” she said. “That’s really what my husband is all about. That’s just who he is, he’s just built that way, and that’s really one of the reasons I fell so deeply in love with him was because he had such a love for serving others.”

 

[JerseyGirl]

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I haven't seen the MSM reports that Moldova has changed its mind about wanting to join NATO, if you have a link, I'd be interested in reading about it.

Although it [Moldova] has no plans to try to become a member of NATO, Moldova formally applied to join the European Union just three days ago in a fast-track bid to bolster its ties with the West.

Blinken Pledges American Support in Moldova

 

[Bit of hope]

Russia preparing to shell its own cities to accuse Ukraine and declare general mobilization

Russian authorities may decide to implement a scenario, in which they will shell residential areas in the Russian cities located near the border with Ukraine to accuse the Ukrainian military.
The relevant statement was made by the Center for Countering Disinformation at the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine on Facebook, an Ukrinform correspondent reports.

“According to the Kremlin leadership’s plan, this will be used as a basis for declaring general mobilization in Russia. Considering the actions of the Russian army in Ukraine, provocations in Russian cities will be accompanied by numerous casualties among civilians to create a ‘nice’ picture,” the report states.

Similar scenarios were used by Russia as a pretext for hostilities in Afghanistan, Chechnya and Abkhazia.

A reminder that the Kremlin is planning to involve the forcibly mobilized residents of the certain areas of Donetsk Region and Luhansk Region (CADLR) in provocations in southern Ukraine.

 

[Herat]

Not sure what I think about the possibility of the U.S. sponsoring Moldova's NATO application. If Moldova decides that they want to join NATO, I think that should be a decision of all NATO members. If sponsorship is required, then this should also be a joint sponsorship, IMO. I don't think the U.S. should act alone on this.[/QUO

I don't recall where I read this but it was within the last 3 days. I don't think it was in the US media. I'll look for it, thanks

 

[Bit of hope]

There's an article on the DM website about civilians who were killed fleeing Irpin. I think that same family is pictured. It's so sad.

Ukrainians run as Russian bombs rain on Irpin while ceasefire to protect 400k civilians shattered | Daily Mail Online

I'm actually not sure this are the same persons. On this picture it looks like there is also a child on the ground, but it could already have taken away before the other picture was made. Sorry....tears are coming seeing this. Stupid note...also the cat carrier standing there. Looking back I think this is a picture of the same family from a different angle. RIP

 

[dotr]

Vladimir Putin hiding Alina Kabaeva, kids in Switzerland

It would seem his ''ladies'' and offspring are weak points for P. could that not be exploited somehow?

Fantasy- place huge silkscreen images of P and his dearly beloved, hang them from buildings and nuclear reactors- so that when his goons open fire, they will essentially be shooting up those people.
Teeny visual taste of his own medicine. speculation, imo fwiw.