Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #4

[Chelly]

Why should we call it Kyiv not Kiev?

The movement to avoid referring to the Ukrainian capital as Kiev, instead calling it Kyiv, has gathered momentum in light of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Kyiv is derived from the Ukrainian language name, whereas Kiev comes from the Russian language. Kyiv was officially adopted in 1995, but Kiev is still commonly used internationally.

 

[SouthAussie]

Other nationalities of vodka are still available (I recommend Polish)

Supermarkets remove Russian vodka from shelves

And you are now going to have chicken kyiv instead of chicken kiev.

Sainsbury’s renames chicken kievs and pulls Russian-made vodka

 

[LadyL]

Near Ukraine border, Western arms arrive quickly and discreetly

Vice President Harris is expected to travel to Poland

 

[Lillymac]

Same here. Feels like a very dangerous fine line..

This has worried me from the onset. A mind going berserk and saying I'll show you!!!

 

[LaborDayRN]

I paid 3.85 per gallon, yesterday. Over $80.00 to fill up.

We must restart the US Pipeline. Some folks don't be able to work with the high cost of fuel. Moo....

$5.07 per gallon in So Cal.

 

[sds71]

Italian police have seized a yacht owned by Alexey Mordashov, the richest man in Russia before being blacklisted this week by the European Union following Moscow's attack on Ukraine, a source with direct knowledge of the matter said on Friday.

The 65-metre (215-ft) "Lady M" was impounded in the northern Italian port of Imperia, the source said.

A second yacht owned by Gennady Timchenko, another billionaire who has close ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin, is also blocked in Imperia and will be sequestered shortly, the source added.

Italy seizes yacht owned by Russian oligarch Mordashov -source

 

[Mo Thuairim]

Why should we call it Kyiv not Kiev?

The movement to avoid referring to the Ukrainian capital as Kiev, instead calling it Kyiv, has gathered momentum in light of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Kyiv is derived from the Ukrainian language name, whereas Kiev comes from the Russian language. Kyiv was officially adopted in 1995, but Kiev is still commonly used internationally.

Ukrainians also dislike 'the' Ukraine. It mirrors the Russian way of referring to it as a region rather than a country in its own right. In Russia they often use the preposition 'na' before Ukraine to indicate it is just an area or region rather than 'v', which is used for a separate country, although Ukrainians have formally requested that 'v Ukraini' is always used.

Ukraine, Not the Ukraine: The Significance of Three Little Letters

 

[worldwatcher]

Near Ukraine border, Western arms arrive quickly and discreetly

Vice President Harris is expected to travel to Poland

From your first link:
- NATO 'more unified' than ever -

 

[Herat]

The two RAF Eurofighter Typhoon, RFR9718 and RFR9727 are back up as triangle icons just southwest of Istanbul, with a Stratotanker trailing.

Probably heading back to base in Cyprus at a blazing 577 kts groundspeed.

Live Flight Tracker - Real-Time Flight Tracker Map | Flightradar24

ETA: There are actually now 4 RAF Eurofighter Typhoons approaching Cyprus.
The previous two and two more approaching from the south after flying in from ?
Jordan?

 

[sds71]

Sky News team comes under fire from Russian forces in Kyiv, despite making it clear they’re journalists:

The point is we were very lucky. But thousands of Ukrainians are dying, and families are being targeted by Russian hit squads just as we were, driving along in a family saloon and attacked.

Sky News team's harrowing account of their violent ambush in Ukraine this week

 

[AliceInPain]

Why should we call it Kyiv not Kiev?

The movement to avoid referring to the Ukrainian capital as Kiev, instead calling it Kyiv, has gathered momentum in light of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Kyiv is derived from the Ukrainian language name, whereas Kiev comes from the Russian language. Kyiv was officially adopted in 1995, but Kiev is still commonly used internationally.

I thought it was Kyjiv. ?
I'm also confused about how people say Ukraine, like someone posted about a bit further up.
Why do some people say "the" Ukraine. How about the India, the Denmark, the France.
I know the explanation, but even some English-speaking people in the West say it like that. ?
Not that it brings anything useful to the discussion, I'm just curious.

 

[Mo Thuairim]

I thought it was Kyjiv. ?
I'm also confused about how people say Ukraine, like someone posted about a bit further up.
Why do some people say "the" Ukraine. How about the India, the Denmark, the France.
I know the explanation, but even some English-speaking people in the West say it like that. ?
Not that it brings anything useful to the discussion, I'm just curious.

The Ukrainian name Ки́їв is usually transliterated into English as Kyiv. It may be spelled slightly differently in other languages. Most countries in English do not take the definite article with some exceptions, like the Netherlands and the Gambia. When Ukraine was a Soviet Socialist Republic rather than an independent country, it was often referred to as the Ukraine in English. After the fall of the Soviet Union when it became an independent country, it wanted to solely be referred to as Ukraine in English, no definite article.

 

[dotr]

And you are now going to have chicken kyiv instead of chicken kiev.

Sainsbury’s renames chicken kievs and pulls Russian-made vodka

Quebec diner drops word 'poutine' over Ukraine war | The Star
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''MONTREAL — A Quebec restaurant that claims to have invented poutine has dropped the name of its most famous dish from some of its branding because the meal shares a name with Russia's president.
Drummondville, Que., diner Le Roy Jucep announced last week on Facebook it was temporarily removing the word "poutine" from some of its online branding to express its "deep dismay" over the Russian army's invasion of Ukraine.
"Therefore, as of now, we're the inventor of the fries cheese gravy," the post read.''
''In French, Russian President Vladimir Putin's last name is written and pronounced "Poutine" — the same as Quebec's signature dish.''

 

[Chelly]

And you are now going to have chicken kyiv instead of chicken kiev.

Sainsbury’s renames chicken kievs and pulls Russian-made vodka

Yes. Edited my chicken recipe and switching back to Absolut.

 

[MaryG12]

Ever since Putin's moves on Ukraine - I have not stopped thinking what my dear late Mother would think of all this is she was still alive.

Her father left Russia before the Bolshevik Revolution - her mother was Polish - yeah...

 

[SouthAussie]

The Ukrainian name Ки́їв is usually transliterated into English as Kyiv. It may be spelled slightly differently in other languages. Most countries in English do not take the definite article with some exceptions, like the Netherlands and the Gambia. When Ukraine was a Soviet Socialist Republic rather than an independent country, it was often referred to as the Ukraine in English. After the fall of the Soviet Union when it became an independent country, it wanted to solely be referred to as Ukraine in English, no definite article.

And Ukraine gained independence in August 1991. So there are still many people in the world who are accustomed to saying 'the' Ukraine - when they spoke of Ukraine at all. It is not like it would have been spoken about very much (before this) to get used to dropping the 'the'.

 

[Herat]

President Poutine?

Yeah. Cheezy grease describes him fairly well

 

[nhmemorymaker]

The Ukrainian name Ки́їв is usually transliterated into English as Kyiv. It may be spelled slightly differently in other languages. Most countries in English do not take the definite article with some exceptions, like the Netherlands and the Gambia. When Ukraine was a Soviet Socialist Republic rather than an independent country, it was often referred to as the Ukraine in English. After the fall of the Soviet Union when it became an independent country, it wanted to solely be referred to as Ukraine in English, no definite article.

and just an obscure side note.... do you go to hospital in Ukraine, or do you go to the hospital in Ukraine...

 

[MassGuy]

Stunning video here:

WATCH: Sky News reporters ambushed near Kyiv, injuring one of them

https://twitter.com/bnonews/status/1499879297334530050?s=21

 

[Mo Thuairim]

and just an obscure side note.... do you go to hospital in Ukraine, or do you go to the hospital in Ukraine...

Lol! Depends on whether you are American or British or Irish or whatever. Ukrainians definitely go to hospital as there is no definite article in the Ukrainian language but visiting Americans probably go to the hospital while visiting Brits or Irish people go to hospital. Sorry I have derailed this thread with linguistics...