Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #5

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Russian prisoners of war will work to 'restore' Ukraine's economy: Ukrainian officials | Fox News
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Deputy Minister of Internal Affairs Yevhen Yenin made the announcement during a Ukrainian telethon broadcast. Yenin said Ukraine would comply with all norms of international humanitarian law.

"And this is what distinguishes us from the Russian aggressor, who shoots at civilians, strikes rockets and bombs at homes," Yenin said in a translated post on the ministry's Facebook page. "And I'm not talking about the treatment of our servicemen."

"We will use all the opportunities that the Geneva Conventions give us in this regard. That is, the use of labor, etc," Yenin added. "All these people will later work to restore Ukraine's economy."

In the Geneva Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War, a detaining power may utilize the labor of prisoners of war "who are physically fit, taking into account their age, sex, rank, and physical aptitude, and with a view particularly to maintaining them in a good state of physical and mental health."

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Two Russian soldiers taken prisoner near Kyiv, by Ukraine following Russia's military operation in Ukraine on Feb. 24, 2022. (Embassy of Ukraine in Ankara/Handout/Anadolu Agency via Getty Images)
 
  • #462
Russian prisoners of war will work to 'restore' Ukraine's economy: Ukrainian officials | Fox News
[...]

Deputy Minister of Internal Affairs Yevhen Yenin made the announcement during a Ukrainian telethon broadcast. Yenin said Ukraine would comply with all norms of international humanitarian law.

"And this is what distinguishes us from the Russian aggressor, who shoots at civilians, strikes rockets and bombs at homes," Yenin said in a translated post on the ministry's Facebook page. "And I'm not talking about the treatment of our servicemen."

"We will use all the opportunities that the Geneva Conventions give us in this regard. That is, the use of labor, etc," Yenin added. "All these people will later work to restore Ukraine's economy."

In the Geneva Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War, a detaining power may utilize the labor of prisoners of war "who are physically fit, taking into account their age, sex, rank, and physical aptitude, and with a view particularly to maintaining them in a good state of physical and mental health."

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Two Russian soldiers taken prisoner near Kyiv, by Ukraine following Russia's military operation in Ukraine on Feb. 24, 2022. (Embassy of Ukraine in Ankara/Handout/Anadolu Agency via Getty Images)

the one on the left looks like he's 14 years old
 
  • #463
Yeah, we traded F series fighter jets in top condition for old Russian planes.

Why the US??? Why not give/trade to NATO?

I don't want the US to make the decision for these planes.

This is a NATO decision, we are there because of NATO. Why is NATO and Polland putting this on the US? Why can't other NATO countries swap a few planes, as well?

All my opinion only...
Are these F Series jets new? Because Poland's language was for them to be given corresponding jets of similar quality of those MIGS they give US..."used aircraft with corresponding operational capabilities"

Now I'm seeing on CNN TV...US is saying Poland's plan to swap jets with US so US can then give them to Ukraine is not "tenable".

I'm so confused by all this. This makes like 3 times Poland has said something about giving jets where the US has then said nah, not going to happen. What in the name of NATO is going on!?
 
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MickyD's and Coca-Cola suspending Russian Operations...the pen still can be a mighty tool!
 
  • #466
Russia-Ukraine war: US rejects Polish plan to offer jets to Ukraine; Russia accused of breaking Mariupol ceasefire – live | World news | The Guardian
34m ago 21:42

The US Government may have opposed a Polish plan to ship jet fighters to Ukraine but it will be sending two Patriot anti-missile batteries stationed in Europe to Poland.

State Department Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland told a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing that as a Nato-member, the move would help secure Poland’s airspace owing to its adjacency to the conflict.

“The main issue is to evaluate what Poland’s immediate needs are in the context of being a neighbor of this conflict,” Nuland said.

Russia-Ukraine war: US rejects Polish plan to offer jets to Ukraine; Russia accused of breaking Mariupol ceasefire – live | World news | The Guardian
1h ago 20:57

Ukraine’s energy minister says Russian military units are allegedly “torturing” staff at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant to force them into making a public statement.

Herman Halushchenko made the allegation in a social media post where he said operating staff had been “held hostage for four days”.

“There are about 500 Russian soldiers and 50 units of heavy equipment inside the station. The employees of the station are physically and psychologically exhausted,” Halushchenko said.

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  • #467
A 459-Foot Mystery in a Tuscan Port: Is It a Russian’s Superyacht?

In Marina di Carrara, a small Italian town on the Tuscan coast, one of the world’s biggest, newest and most expensive superyachts — called the Scheherazade — is under scrutiny by the Italian police.

In the rarefied world of the biggest superyachts (only 14 that are at least 140 meters, or 459 feet long), the Scheherazade is alone in that no likely owner has been publicly identified. That has spurred speculation that it could be a Middle Eastern billionaire or a superconnected Russian — even Mr. Putin.

The mystery about the ship’s owner arose because — even for the hyper-confidential world of superyachting — there is an unusual degree of secrecy surrounding this vessel. Not only do contractors and crew members sign nondisclosure agreements, as on many superyachts, but the ship also has a cover to hide its name plate. And when it first arrived at the port, workers erected a tall metallic barrier on the pier to partly obscure the yacht from onlookers. Some locals remarked that they had never seen anything like it for other boats.
 
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Russia-Ukraine war: US rejects Polish plan to offer jets to Ukraine; Russia accused of breaking Mariupol ceasefire – live | World news | The Guardian
34m ago 21:42

The US Government may have opposed a Polish plan to ship jet fighters to Ukraine but it will be sending two Patriot anti-missile batteries stationed in Europe to Poland.

State Department Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland told a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing that as a Nato-member, the move would help secure Poland’s airspace owing to its adjacency to the conflict.

“The main issue is to evaluate what Poland’s immediate needs are in the context of being a neighbor of this conflict,” Nuland said.

Russia-Ukraine war: US rejects Polish plan to offer jets to Ukraine; Russia accused of breaking Mariupol ceasefire – live | World news | The Guardian
1h ago 20:57

Ukraine’s energy minister says Russian military units are allegedly “torturing” staff at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant to force them into making a public statement.

Herman Halushchenko made the allegation in a social media post where he said operating staff had been “held hostage for four days”.

“There are about 500 Russian soldiers and 50 units of heavy equipment inside the station. The employees of the station are physically and psychologically exhausted,” Halushchenko said.

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What possible public statement could these workers make!? What do they want them to say? Hey everybody, it's us workers here, in the nuclear power plant that was under seige. They bombed out and burnt down our training facility. We just want you all to know, WE LOVE PUTIN !<3
 
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In #Sumy, 16-year-old Artyom Pryimenko, the champion of #Ukraine in sambo, was killed during an airstrike. His entire family died with him, including two younger brothers.
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What the #Ukrainian city of #Sumy looks like after the #Russian bombing. About 5 thousand people were evacuated from there. As a result of the bombing by Russian aviation, civilians were killed, including elderly and children.
 
  • #470
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/08/ukraine-russia-irpin-war/

Putin is evil. What he has done to Ukraine is nothing short of criminal and a war crime.

Zelensky vowes to fight to the end. I get it. He is literally fighting for his country, democracy and freedom for his people.

But what will be left? Is there a point that the people there just want it to stop?
To give in to Putin?

I totally think Putin will never stop at Ukraine. Give him that and he will only take more. That is the big picture.
But..
I guess I just wonder if the average Ukrainian citizen that has lost or is loosing everything feels this way?

He might stop. Some think he’s more concerned with preventing Ukraine from being a strong, western ally than with becoming an imperialist force.

Those following this line of thinking say his interest is in destroying Ukraine rather than taking it over to be part of Russia. I mean if his goal was having it become part of Russia why would he utterly destroy it. Which we see he is doing.
 
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What possible public statement could these workers make!? What do they want them to say? Hey everybody, it's us workers here, in the nuclear power plant that was under seige. They bombed out and burnt down our training facility. We just want you all to know, WE LOVE PUTIN !<3

It’s those savage Chechnyan fighters.
 
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He might stop. Some think he’s more concerned with preventing Ukraine from being a strong, western ally than with becoming an imperialist force.

Those following this line of thinking say his interest is in destroying Ukraine rather than taking it over to be part of Russia. I mean if his goal was having it become part of Russia why would he utterly destroy it. Which we see he is doing.
Good question and food for thought.
I wonder if it is “If I can’t have it, nobody will”.
 
  • #473
Russia-Ukraine war: Moscow promises humanitarian corridors; US to send Patriot missiles to Poland – live | World news | The Guardian
21m ago 23:09

Here are the main developments in the past few hours:
  • The US government has dismissed as “untenable” a suggestion by Poland that it could make 29 of its Soviet-era MIG fighter jets available to the Americans to help defend Ukraine.
  • But the US will be sending two Patriot anti-missile batteries stationed in Europe to Poland to bolster its defences against attack.
  • Russian forces will stop firing starting 10 am Moscow time on Wednesday and are ready to provide human corridors so civilians can evacuate Kyiv and four other cities.
  • Russia’s military is solving some of its logistical problems and could launch an attack on Kyiv within days, according to experts.
  • Ukraine’s president Volodymyr Zelenskiy has been described as a hero by the British press after he invoked the fight against Nazism in an impassioned video address to MPs to do more to help protect his country.
  • Ukraine accused Russia of breaking a ceasefire agreement, by shelling a route intended to allow civilians to escape the besieged city of Mariupol. Residents of the port city are living without heat, water, sanitary systems or phones.
  • The US is banning imports of Russian oil “to inflict further pain on Vladimir Putin”, Joe Biden has said. The EU has not joined the ban, but the British government promised to phase out Russian oil imports by the end of the year.
  • Russia’s war in Ukraine is being bolstered by $285m in daily oil payments from European countries, a thinktank has found.
  • Venezuela has released at least two Americans from jail in an apparent goodwill gesture toward the Biden administration following a visit to Caracas by a high-level US delegation.
  • Chinese president Xi Jinping called for “maximum restraint” in Ukraine overnight and said China is “pained to see the flames of war reignited in Europe” in his strongest statement to date on the conflict.
 
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It’s those savage Chechnyan fighters.
But what are they torturing them into saying? Are they torturing them into saying they never tortured them?
 
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He might stop. Some think he’s more concerned with preventing Ukraine from being a strong, western ally than with becoming an imperialist force.

Those following this line of thinking say his interest is in destroying Ukraine rather than taking it over to be part of Russia. I mean if his goal was having it become part of Russia why would he utterly destroy it. Which we see he is doing.
Make millions of Ukrainians move out, have lots of young Russians move in? Hold new elections, elect a Putin puppet? Who knows what his evil mind is planning but he has said "Russian World" enough to know he pretty much will always want Ukraine. It's a huge amount of land and it's a grain producer. AJMO
 
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MickyD's and Coca-Cola suspending Russian Operations...the pen still can be a mighty tool!

And yet PepsiCo hasn't done a thing.

Because... its complicated
 
  • #478
The United States is good at finding ISIS leaders and Bin Laden and
neutralizing them, why cant they do the same with Putin the horrible
and his henchmen, before that monster destroys the world with his evil
obsession with Ukraine?
A ruler of a huge, developed nation like Russia is vastly different than some bum in a tent or hiding in a poor country. Putin is well guarded. If he’s taken out it will have to come from inside.



It took 10 years to track down Bin Laden, mainly because he was on the move, in caves etc., and then in the end he was just in a house in Pakistan. It was easy for Seal Team 6 to kill him, but not until they were certain of his location.

Putin's case IMO is closer to a Hitler scenario. Well-guarded and with a mainly very loyal inner circle. But only mainly---there was that assassination attempt on Hitler that failed, the one with a bomb in a briefcase beneath his table. That was some in his inner circle who finally turned against that 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬. Of course the plotters were all executed.

As @gitana1 stated, Putin too is well-guarded. He's got his Kremlin and his many mansions and dachas, but I believe he'd be easier to find than a Bin Laden living a nomadic life. The problem is, how loyal are his very loyal bodyguards and right-hand men? He's got all the security trappings of a czar. Someone would have to break rank, and we have no idea if that will ever happen.

The best-case scenario IMO is for Putin to go the Hitler route and kill himself. I don't know if that would ever happen. He is bewitched but in a different way than Hitler was bewitched, and different than Stalin, or Bin Laden, too.

Each of these men had mass death of the innocent at his fingertips, but for different motives and carried out in different ways.

No one can equate with Hitler. But what is happening now is also at the whim of just one man and his desires and notions of what would make his own world "better."
 
  • #479
MAR 8, 2022
Russia-Ukraine war: Some key developments in the conflict | AP News
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Satellite photos from Planet Labs PBC show a buildup of Belarussian and suspected Russian helicopters at Machulishchy Air Base outside Minsk, Belarus, on Tuesday. And analysts believe flooding north of Kyiv seen in satellite photos likely comes from Ukrainian forces trying to stop the Russian advance.

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Additional air-defense capabilities are the No. 1 priority for Ukraine, Maj. Gen. Borys Kremenetskyi, the defense attaché with the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington, said Tuesday after visiting the Pentagon.

“It can be ground-based air-defense systems. It can be fighter jets, whatever possible,” Kremenetskyi told The Associated Press.

He said there are countries around the world that have Soviet-produced air-defense systems that the Ukrainians know how to operate.

“The U.S. government can also motivate those countries to provide us this equipment,” he said.

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