Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #7

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I am a frequent follower of this thread but rarely post. I apologize for being presumptuous but please don’t quote my post in case it gets deleted or I self delete.

I don’t care to comment on anything American politically. I was not able to watch much of Biden’s speech because I am at work. My husband is career USAF , currently in a senior position stationed at NORAD. I am in no way saying that anything militarily is in motion, but they are on a position of high alert. (Not classified), but his voice calmed my fears a bit.
 
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My own opinion is that the speech from the President of the United States, done in Poland sent a message. It didn't have to be specific or detailed. There is a razor thin line Putin is walking right now.

We are probably closer to problems with Russia ever since Cuban missile crisis. Darn, where is my secure little school desk that I hid under during the "nuke drills" at school?!
 
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My own opinion is that the speech from the President of the United States, done in Poland sent a message. It didn't have to be specific or detailed. There is a razor thin line Putin is walking right now.

We are probably closer to problems with Russia ever since Cuban missile crisis. Darn, where is my secure little school desk that I hid under during the "nuke drills" at school?!

I remember it also...and I felt while Biden's speech was well done, it put me on edge like never before especially after hearing what this fool had to say.

"The Kremlin again raised the spectre of the use of nuclear weapons in the war with Ukraine as Russian forces struggled to hold a key city in the south of the country.

Dmitry Medvedev, a former Russian president who is deputy chairman of the country’s security council, said Moscow could strike against an enemy that only used conventional weapons while Vladimir Putin’s defence minister claimed nuclear “readiness” was a priority."


Russia reasserts right to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine
 
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Edited to add that the Whitehouse clarifies that Biden was not calling for regime change in Russia.

Biden says Putin ‘cannot remain in power’ as he assures Ukraine: ‘We stand with you’

It appeared to be the first time Biden has explicitly called for Putin’s removal and would mark a sharp contrast from prior statements from the White House, which have emphasized that regime change in Russia is not the policy of the United States.

Shortly after Biden's address however, the White House denied that Biden was calling for regime change.

"The President’s point was that Putin cannot be allowed to exercise power over his neighbors or the region. He was not discussing Putin’s power in Russia, or regime change," a White House official told Fox News Digital shortly after the speech concluded.
 
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Russia-Ukraine war latest: US offers Ukraine further military support as Lviv hit by missile strikes – live | World news | The Guardian

4h ago 11:54
Thousands have gathered in central London to express solidarity with the people of Ukraine, who the capital’s mayor, Sadiq Khan, said had endured “unimaginable pain and suffering” over the past month.

Following the rallying call by Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for people everywhere to protest against the bloodshed by taking to the streets, large crowds assembled in the capital to show support for the embattled country.

On their route through London, demonstrators marched beneath Yoko Ono’s Imagine Peace message on a huge electronic billboard in Piccadilly, many waving the yellow and blue of the Ukrainian flag as they passed.

Mark Townsend on Twitter - Home Affairs Ed of The Observer
Here’s Izyna Savkina, 36, who left Kiev a week ago and today is marching in London to protest against Putin. Will Ukraine win? ‘Of course.’ She adds: ‘Eventually the Russians will just kill Putin.’
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Mark Townsend on Twitter
Ukrainian friends Yuliya Gavnylyuk and Sofia Silina are also on London’s solidarity march. Sofia’s family has lost three out of four homes and has a friend shot by a Chechen. Will Ukraine win? ‘100%. How can we lose?’ she said.
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MAR 26, 2022
President Biden delivers an address in Warsaw, Poland
 
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Biden says Putin 'cannot remain in power' in speech about war in Ukraine | CBC News
''U.S. President Joe Biden said that Russia's leader Vladimir Putin "cannot remain in power" in Poland Saturday, remarks a White House official said later were meant to prepare the world's democracies for extended conflict over Ukraine, not back regime change in Russia.

Biden's comments on Saturday, including a statement earlier in the day calling Putin a "butcher," were a sharp escalation of the U.S. approach to Moscow over its invasion of Ukraine.

In a major address delivered at Warsaw's Royal Castle, Biden evoked Poland's four decades behind the Iron Curtain in an effort to build a case that the world's democracies must urgently confront an autocratic Russia as a threat to global security and freedom.''

"For God's sake, this man cannot remain in power," Biden told a crowd in Warsaw after condemning Putin's month-long war in Ukraine.''
 
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My own opinion is that the speech from the President of the United States, done in Poland sent a message. It didn't have to be specific or detailed. There is a razor thin line Putin is walking right now.

We are probably closer to problems with Russia ever since Cuban missile crisis. Darn, where is my secure little school desk that I hid under during the "nuke drills" at school?!

Mickey, thats funny. Eerie, but funny... (my desk still had gum stuck under it)
 
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MAR 26, 2022
Biden Says War In Ukraine Is Test For Democracies And That Putin 'Cannot Remain In Power' (rferl.org)
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The U.S. president repeatedly referred to Putin by name, blasting him for meeting Western attempts at “real diplomacy” prior to the conflict with “disinterest” and "lies."

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As a result of the war, he said, there are more NATO soldiers in Eastern Europe, not less, as Russia had demanded, Biden said.

The U.S. alone now has more than 100,000 troops in Europe, he said, warning Russia against “moving on one single inch of NATO territory," noting the "sacred obligation" among NATO's members to defend alliance territory with the combined might of all its members.

Biden also spoke directly to the Russian people, saying they are not the enemy and Putin has cut them off from the rest of the world. He said Russia was experiencing a “brain drain” that has seen more than 200,000 leave the country since the start of the war on February 24.
 
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The Kyiv Independent on Twitter - 3 hrs ago
Mariupol city council: Russian forces forcibly deported hospital employees, patients. The council of the besieged city said that, according to witness reports, Russian troops had forcibly moved the staff and the patients of the Mariupol City Hospital #1 to an unknown location.

The Kyiv Independent on Twitter
It is not clear how many people were deported. There were about 700 people in the hospital.

NEXTA on Twitter
Activists doused the #Russian embassy in #Prague with artificial blood.
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NEXTA on Twitter, Video
A fighter of the #Belarusian battalion shows #Russian destroyed equipment.

The Kyiv Independent on Twitter
An industrial facility storing fuel is on fire following a missile attack in Lviv, says mayor Andriy Sadovyi.

The Kyiv Independent on Twitter
Explosions reported in Lviv again.

NEXTA on Twitter
The occupiers are engaged in nuclear terrorism on the territory of #Ukraine #Russian troops fired again at the nuclear research facility in #Kharkiv. Continued shelling could lead to a nuclear catastrophe.

The Kyiv Independent on Twitter - 1 hr ago
Shelling in Kyiv Oblast kills 3, injures 6. Artillery strikes by Russian forces targeted the villages of Tarasivka, Trebukhiv and Shevchenkove, and the city of Bucha, Ukrainian Prosecutor General’s Office reports.

The Kyiv Independent on Twitter
Kharkiv nuclear research reactor hit by Russian shelling. The nuclear research reactor at the Kharkiv Institute of Physics and Technology has come under renewed Russian fire. Ukrainian authorities have not yet been able to assess damage to the site, due to constant shelling.

The Kyiv Independent on Twitter
Trostyanets liberated by Ukraine. The city, located in the northern Sumy Oblast, was captured by Russian forces on March 1. Trostyanets returned under the Ukrainian flag on March 26.

NEXTA on Twitter
#London today.
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NEXTA on Twitter
The mayor of #Slavutych confirms that the city is under #Russian occupation but that it will remain #Ukrainian.

I was inside when the Russians bombed Mariupol drama theater: survivor's story | Euromaidan Press
Nadiya was hiding in the basement of the Mariupol drama theater with her daughter, son-in-law, grandson, and elderly grandmother when Russian troops dropped a heavy bomb on the building, despite the enormous sign “children” next to it. At least 300 civilians were killed by the attack, according to city officials. Here is her eyewitness account of what she and her family witnessed that day.
 
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Edited to add that the Whitehouse clarifies that Biden was not calling for regime change in Russia.

Biden says Putin ‘cannot remain in power’ as he assures Ukraine: ‘We stand with you’

It appeared to be the first time Biden has explicitly called for Putin’s removal and would mark a sharp contrast from prior statements from the White House, which have emphasized that regime change in Russia is not the policy of the United States.

Shortly after Biden's address however, the White House denied that Biden was calling for regime change.

"The President’s point was that Putin cannot be allowed to exercise power over his neighbors or the region. He was not discussing Putin’s power in Russia, or regime change," a White House official told Fox News Digital shortly after the speech concluded.
Why the heck not? Why are we pandering? Of course the removal of Putin would change the fate of this conflict. IMO.
 
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Mickey, thats funny. Eerie, but funny... (my desk still had gum stuck under it)

Do you remember all of those Dystopian nuclear war movies from the '80's? I often wonder how we grew up, made goals, lived our lives normally with the spectre of nuclear holocaust hanging over us?

What a generation of children now, pandemic stress for last two years and now this...
 
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Do you remember all of those Dystopian nuclear war movies from the '80's? I often wonder how we grew up, made goals, lived our lives normally with the spectre of nuclear holocaust hanging over us?

What a generation of children now, pandemic stress for last two years and now this...


In the 80,s there was no internet so we might have seen a t.v programme or leaflet but the news was not constantly broadcast and discussed 24 hours a day. I do not remember being worried about nuclear war,I was more concerned about what was going on in my own and friends lives.
 
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Why the heck not? Why are we pandering? Of course the removal of Putin would change the fate of this conflict. IMO.

For one head of a country to actively call for another head of country's overthrow is a slippery slope. He can say he's not worthy of his office but asking for his removal is calling for action. So the President of the US would be soliciting the removal of anther country's leader and the US is not officially at war with that country.

I know it sounds like yeah so what but it's a line. I mean Biden did call Putin a "butcher" the same day in Poland after meeting Ukrainian refugees.

Biden calls Putin 'a butcher' after meeting with refugees in Poland - CNNPolitics
 
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The Kyiv Independent on Twitter
Zelensky: Impossible to save Mariupol without additional tanks, planes. “Ukraine cannot shoot down Russian missiles with shotguns and machine guns,” the president said during his latest address. 1/2

The Kyiv Independent on Twitter
He added that Ukraine is waiting too long for the required weapons. “Who is leading the Euro-Atlantic community? Is it still Moscow through intimidation?” Zelensky added. 2/2

Oleksandra Matviichuk on Twitter
In the Kharkiv metro animators calm down children who are hiding from the Russian army #StandWithUkraine
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Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya on Twitter, The national leader of Belarus
Over a phone call today, I assured @POTUS that the people of Belarus are at the forefront of the battle for freedom, the battle between liberty and repressions. We also stand firmly with the people of Ukraine. I am confident that freedom and humanity will prevail.
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Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine - Ukrainian Parliament on Twitter
Russia has committed 148 crimes against journalists and the media since the beginning of the large-scale invasion This was reported by the Institute of Mass Media (IMI). Monitoring data, in particular, indicate that
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Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine - Ukrainian Parliament on Twitter
Five journalists were murdered in the line of duty, and seven were injured. One journalist went missing. More than 70 media outlets were forced to shut down due to editorial seizures, threats, and temporary occupation.

Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine - Ukrainian Parliament on Twitter
Six cases of abduction and torture of journalists were recorded. “All crimes have been verified and documented. The Hague is waiting, ”IMI Director Oksana Romanyuk said on her Facebook page. #StopRussia #StopPutin

Christopher Miller on Twitter - 1 hr ago
Happening now on the frontline near the eastern city of Avdiivka, Russian forces are using white phosphorus against Ukrainians. Photos from a Ukrainian lieutenant taken in real-time moments ago as we spoke. He described the situation as “madness.”
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Christopher Miller on Twitter
The Ukrainian lieutenant told me his positions are being pounded by Russian artillery 14 hours a day. As a result, 13 Ukrainian troops were wounded today alone, he said. “I don't know how much time we can hold on…” he said, asking that I show these pictures & say they need help.
 
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Fact Sheet on U.S. Security Assistance for Ukraine | The White House

President Biden today announced an additional $800 million in security assistance to Ukraine, bringing the total U.S. security assistance committed to Ukraine to $1 billion in just the past week, and a total of $2 billion since the start of the Biden Administration. The assistance will take the form of direct transfers of equipment from the Department of Defense to the Ukrainian military to help them defend their country against Russia’s unprovoked and unjustified invasion.

The new $800 million assistance package includes:

  • 800 Stinger anti-aircraft systems;
  • 2,000 Javelin, 1,000 light anti-armor weapons, and 6,000 AT-4 anti-armor systems;
  • 100 Tactical Unmanned Aerial Systems;
  • 100 grenade launchers, 5,000 rifles, 1,000 pistols, 400 machine guns, and 400 shotguns;
  • Over 20 million rounds of small arms ammunition and grenade launcher and mortar rounds;
  • 25,000 sets of body armor; and
  • 25,000 helmets.
In addition to the weapons listed above, previous United States assistance committed to Ukraine includes:

  • Over 600 Stinger anti-aircraft systems;
  • Approximately 2,600 Javelin anti-armor systems;
  • Five Mi-17 helicopters;
  • Three patrol boats;
  • Four counter-artillery and counter-unmanned aerial system tracking radars;
  • Four counter-mortar radar systems;
  • 200 grenade launchers and ammunition;
  • 200 shotguns and 200 machine guns;
  • Nearly 40 million rounds of small arms ammunition and over 1 million grenade, mortar, and artillery rounds;
  • 70 High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs) and other vehicles;
  • Secure communications, electronic warfare detection systems, body armor, helmets, and other tactical gear;
  • Military medical equipment to support treatment and combat evacuation;
  • Explosive ordnance disposal and demining equipment; and
  • Satellite imagery and analysis capability.
*That's a chunk of change*
 
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My own opinion is that the speech from the President of the United States, done in Poland sent a message. It didn't have to be specific or detailed. There is a razor thin line Putin is walking right now.

We are probably closer to problems with Russia ever since Cuban missile crisis. Darn, where is my secure little school desk that I hid under during the "nuke drills" at school?!

Putin clearly lives with the principle of Louis XIV, “après-moi, le déluge” (after me, the flood). Dictators don’t care, the flood or the nuclear fire.
 
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