Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #7

[sunshineray]

Former uncover agent discusses the difficulty of working in Moscow, (''hardest place in the world'') or as they referred to it - "Belly of the beast'.
@1:30 approx.

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My very good friends adopted their son from Russia just over 25 years ago. They had to go to Moscow 4 times during the process for about a month and a half's stay altogether. They had nothing but wonderful things to say about the Russian people they interacted with, saying they were warm and friendly, very helpful people <3

 

[dotr]

My very good friends adopted their son from Russia just over 25 years ago. They had to go to Moscow 4 times during the process for about a month and a half's stay altogether. They had nothing but wonderful things to say about the Russian people they interacted with, saying they were warm and friendly, very helpful people <3

They are likely friendly as long as one is not an undercover US agent! imo.

 

[ilovewings]

This is a terrible sign (a lot of) Russians are not connected to what is going on in the world....they didn't teach their youngsters. Couldn't image (my naivety) that there are people not knowing what Chernobyl is and what happened..... OMG!!!! Totally terrible.

Absolutely horrible- they had no idea what they were involved in.

 

[ilovewings]

This is a terrible sign (a lot of) Russians are not connected to what is going on in the world....they didn't teach their youngsters. Couldn't image (my naivety) that there are people not knowing what Chernobyl is and what happened..... OMG!!!! Totally terrible.

Absolutely horrible- they had no idea what they were involved in.

 

[Arkay]

My very good friends adopted their son from Russia just over 25 years ago. They had to go to Moscow 4 times during the process for about a month and a half's stay altogether. They had nothing but wonderful things to say about the Russian people they interacted with, saying they were warm and friendly, very helpful people <3

I'm sure the Russian people were very nice to them at that time. Putin has been either the president or prime minister in Russia for 22 years, so at the time your friends adopted, 25 years ago, he was not yet the Russian leader. Back then it was likely Boris Yeltsin. And many Russian orphanages were notorious back then for neglecting the children in their charge, and an American couple rescuing a Russian orphan was a wonderful thing.

In December 2012, Putin signed a law prohibiting Americans to adopt Russian children. IIRC he considered it a tremendous insult, the notion that Americans could raise Russians better than Russians could. He is all about the "Russian Nation." Which, in his mind, includes Ukraine.


Adoption Information: Russia

 

[PommyMommy]

The Kyiv Independent on Twitter - 7 hrs ago
Putin orders to draw 134,500 new conscripts. According to the Russian Defense Ministry, conscripts are called up under the annual spring draft and won't be sent to any “hot spots.” Russia sent conscripts to fight in its war against Ukraine despite promises it wouldn’t happen.

The Kyiv Independent on Twitter
Governor: Russia sends more military equipment, Chechen soldiers to Luhansk Oblast. Serhiy Haidai said that “the situation is getting much worse” in the region, as the number of shellings has increased dramatically.

The Kyiv Independent on Twitter - 6 hrs ago
General Staff: Russia aims to blockade two cities in Donetsk Oblast. As Russia relocates troops to eastern Ukraine, the occupiers aim to take control over areas in Kharkiv, Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts, as well as blockade the cities of Kramatorsk and Sloviansk.

The Kyiv Independent on Twitter
Deputy prime minister: Russian occupiers forcibly move 45,000 residents of besieged Mariupol. According to Iryna Vereshchuk, Mariupol residents were deported to the Russian-occupied parts of Donetsk Oblast. Nearly 100,000 people still need urgent evacuation from the city.

The Kyiv Independent on Twitter - 5 hrs ago
Russian military steal 14 tons of humanitarian aid. According to Deputy Prime Minister Iryna Vereshchuk, food and medicine supplies delivered to Melitopol by 12 buses were stolen by Russians. Negotiations are underway to evacuate people by these buses to Zaporizhzhia.

The Kyiv Independent on Twitter - 4 hrs ago
Biden: 'Open question' whether Putin is fully informed on his military’s performance in Ukraine. U.S. President Joe Biden said that Russian President Vladimir Putin may have already fired some of his advisers or placed them under house arrest.

Inside a hospital in occupied town near Kyiv (kyivindependent.com)
[...]

When wounded Ukrainian soldiers came in, the hospital staff put them in civilian clothes, gave them fake name tags, and hid their IDs so they wouldn’t become targets if Russians burst in.

[...]

“We put police members that guarded the hospital into white robes, otherwise they could be shot to death,” Dovgopol says. “Same with the territorial defense guys – we dressed them into civilian clothes and hid their weapons.”

[...]

“We just had to start burying the bodies, as risky as it was, because it just became unbearable. There were bodies everywhere, dogs eating them…” Dovgopol recalls.

Reaching the cemetery was impossible, as the area was full of snipers. So on March 10, Dovgopol and his colleagues dug out a mass grave near a local church, burying 67 people.

They took photos and assigned numbers to every person, passing this information to the police. The hospital managed to identify 35 bodies, including three Ukrainian soldiers. The names of 32 people remained unknown.

[...]

 

[cujenn81]

Putin more popular with Russians in March than he was in February, up 15% to 83% approval rating. Gobsmacked

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2022-03-31/putins-support-strong-in-russia-amid-ukraine-war-poll?context=amp

That’s the power of propaganda.

“The people will believe what the media tells them they believe.” - George Orwell

 

[dotr]

Warning, heartbreaking and sickening, this has to stop.
ITV News hears allegations of Russian troops filming rape of 15-year-old girl | ITV News - YouTube

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[PommyMommy]

NEXTA on Twitter - 7 hrs ago
#Turkey is ready to become a security guarantor for #Ukraine. Earlier, Great #Britain and #Germany had expressed this desire.

Володимир Зеленський on Twitter - President of Ukraine
Had another conversation with a real friend of Ukraine, President of Turkey
@RTErdogan. Noted the high level of organization of negotiations of delegations in Istanbul. Agreed on further steps towards peace. Thanked for the readiness of Turkey to become the guarantor of security of our state!

NEXTA on Twitter - 3 hrs ago
#Ukrainian Armed Forces liberated 11 settlements in the #Kherson region and seized trophy equipment.

Euromaidan Press on Twitter - 2 hrs ago
"We endured much more than the enemy expected. They said - three or five days. They thought that this would be enough for them to seize our entire state. And it’s already 36. And we are standing. And we will continue to fight" - President Zelenskyy in his midnight address

Euromaidan Press on Twitter
Britain and its allies have agreed to send more lethal military aid to Ukraine, including:
air and coastal defence systems,
longer-range artillery and counter battery capabilities,
armoured vehicles
wider training and logistical support.
Britain, allies to send more lethal aid to Ukraine | Reuters

Euromaidan Press on Twitter
Before leaving the Chornobyl NPP on Mar.31, the Russians stole computers, kettles, coffee makers, and looted kitchen utensils from hotel, according to Yevhen Kramarenko, head of Ukraine's Agency for Exclusion Zone Management

Euromaidan Press on Twitter
The Russian troops have reportedly left Antonov Airport near Hostomel, Kyiv Oblast As of the evening of 31 March, there were no reports on the Ukrainian forces entering the area VIDEO: Babilon'13 via @uawire

 

[PommyMommy]

[URL='https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-business-europe-evacuations-bba63fd33627404f185803d5d92ec054']Live updates | Russian forces block buses leaving Mariupol | AP News[/URL]
The Ukrainian government said Russian forces blocked 45 buses that had been sent to evacuate civilians from the besieged port city of Mariupol, and only 631 people were able to get out of the city in private cars.

Deputy Prime Minister Iryna Vereshchuk said late Thursday that 12 Ukrainian buses with humanitarian aid left Melitopol for Mariupol, but the Russian forces stopped the buses and seized the 14 tons of food and medicines.

‘Refugee’ propaganda video slandering Ukrainian soldiers in Mariupol and 'thanking Russia' was produced by the FSB (khpg.org)
On 23 March, RIA Novosti, and other state-controlled Russian media broadcast a video in which somebody identified as a young Ukrainian from Mariupol, Lyubov Ustinova repeated the Kremlin’s narrative about the Ukrainian Azov soldiers defending Mariupol. The Russian independent MediaZona has now discovered that three videos with Ustinova were produced by Russia’s Security Service, or FSB, with the media instructed not to divulge this extremely relevant detail. ...

Zelensky says two generals who turned out to be traitors stripped of their rank (ukrinform.net)
"Today another decision was made on anti-heroes - now I don't have time to deal with all traitors, but gradually all of them will be punished. That is why Andriy Olehovych Naumov, former head of the main department of internal security at the Security Service of Ukraine, and Serhiy Oleksandrovych Kryvoruchko, former head of the SBU directorate in the Kherson region, are no longer generals," Zelensky said.

Ukrainian Troops Show Off Russian War Trophies In Kharkiv Region (rferl.org)
VIDEO CAPTION: In Ukraine's eastern Kharkiv region, the Ukrainian military shows off armor and equipment that was left behind by invading Russian troops after a battle. Some will be reused by Ukraine's armed forces, while other pieces will be left where they are. RFE/RL correspondent Roman Pahulych and cameraman Pavlo Kholodov spoke to Mykhaylo, a Ukrainian serviceman, on March 30.

Russia-Ukraine war latest: Russia redeploying forces from Georgia, UK says; Germany rejects Putin’s gas supply ‘blackmail’ – live | World news | The Guardian 7m ago 22:26
Russian troops have reportedly taken an unspecified number of captive Ukrainian servicemen hostage after leaving Ukraine’s Chernobyl nuclear power plant, according to officials.

State nuclear agency Energoatom released a statement on Telegram, citing plant workers:

"As they ran away from the Chernobyl nuclear power plant, the Russian occupiers took members of the National Guard, whom they had held hostage since Feb 24, with them.”

The Guardian is unable to verify these claims and it remains unclear how many, if any, Ukrainian servicemen were taken away.

 

[Charlot123]

I'm sure the Russian people were very nice to them at that time. Putin has been either the president or prime minister in Russia for 22 years, so at the time your friends adopted, 25 years ago, he was not yet the Russian leader. Back then it was likely Boris Yeltsin. And many Russian orphanages were notorious back then for neglecting the children in their charge, and an American couple rescuing a Russian orphan was a wonderful thing.

In December 2012, Putin signed a law prohibiting Americans to adopt Russian children. IIRC he considered it a tremendous insult, the notion that Americans could raise Russians better than Russians could. He is all about the "Russian Nation." Which, in his mind, includes Ukraine.


Adoption Information: Russia

@Arkay, Dima Yakovlev’s law was an odd response to sanctions related to Magnitsky’s death.
Magnitsky Act - Wikipedia

How are these two things even related? In Russian, it would be called “Bombing Voronezh” (harming your own to affect the enemy, Voronezh is an old provincial Russian city).

(I shall link the joke about bombing Voronezh separately.) But Dima Yakovlev’s law had little to do with Americans caring better for Russian adoptees.

I think - I would think - the decision meant to punish Americans for Magnitsky’s act and in fact, came out of deep misunderstanding of American mentality. It was assumed that white, rich Americans would want to adopt babies looking like them (blond and blue-eyed). IRL, by that time, lots of US couples were adopting from China or Africa. By that time, cult, popular, figures like Angelina Jolie were deeply into international adoptions. So, that way of thinking was totally off.

 

[Charlot123]

Thank you,I was thinking about other countries as well, like Switzerland. And while I did some googling,it seems like we also import, uranium from Russia..

“Russia is a significant supplier of natural gas and uranium to Switzerland and the rest of Europe. So, Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and how the rest of the world, including Switzerland, reacted with sanctions against Russia have destabilised the energy supply,” says Aya Kachi, professor of energy policy at the University of Basel.”

What the Ukraine war means for Switzerland’s energy policy

Recent info -21 March 2022:
Weekly data: Cutting nuclear links with Russia may be harder than cutting fossil fuel imports

That doesn’t sound - reassuring!

It does sound like the world should start looking for new energy sources.

 

[Charlot123]

Roman Abramovich targeted with chloropicrin or Novichok, Bellingcat journalist claims

Chloropicrin mentioned as possible culprit in Abramovich poisoning

 

[sunshineray]

That’s the power of propaganda.

“The people will believe what the media tells them they believe.” - George Orwell

It's downright diabolical isn't it. A whole nation, well at the least 83% according to that poll I mentioned, support what Putin is doing in Ukraine. 83% are not only ok with random Ukraines being murdered but also their nation's sons being slaughtered as well because they were ill-prepared, supplied and directed by the ones in charge.

What's the worst is when you hear the stories of mothers and fathers not believing their children in Ukraine when they tell them what's happening there to them, their own children!!?

AJMO

 

[sunshineray]

@Arkay, Dima Yakovlev’s law was an odd response to sanctions related to Magnitsky’s death.
Magnitsky Act - Wikipedia

How are these two things even related? In Russian, it would be called “Bombing Voronezh” (harming your own to affect the enemy, Voronezh is an old provincial Russian city).

(I shall link the joke about bombing Voronezh separately.) But Dima Yakovlev’s law had little to do with Americans caring better for Russian adoptees.

I think - I would think - the decision meant to punish Americans for Magnitsky’s act and in fact, came out of deep misunderstanding of American mentality. It was assumed that white, rich Americans would want to adopt babies looking like them (blond and blue-eyed). IRL, by that time, lots of US couples were adopting from China or Africa. By that time, cult, popular, figures like Angelina Jolie were deeply into international adoptions. So, that way of thinking was totally off.

And my friend's son has very dark almost black hair and deep dark brown eyes...with the fullest dark eyelashes I've ever seen on a male!

 

[sunshineray]

Roman Abramovich targeted with chloropicrin or Novichok, Bellingcat journalist claims

Chloropicrin mentioned as possible culprit in Abramovich poisoning

Nasty stuff...

DESCRIPTION: Chloropicrin (PS) is used in agriculture as a soil fumigant. It has also been used as a chemical warfare agent (military designation, PS) and a riot control agent. It was used in large quantities during World War I and was stockpiled during World War II. However, it is no longer authorized for military use. Chloropicrin (PS) is an irritant with characteristics of a tear gas. Chloropicrin (PS) has an intensely irritating odor. Inhalation of 1 ppm causes eye irritation and can warn of exposure


Chloropicrin (PS): Lung Damaging Agent | NIOSH | CDC

 

[mmindymoo]

That’s the power of propaganda.

“The people will believe what the media tells them they believe.” - George Orwell

And assuming the poll is actually legit, which IMO, is highly unlikely

 

[Bit of hope]

@Arkay, Dima Yakovlev’s law was an odd response to sanctions related to Magnitsky’s death.
Magnitsky Act - Wikipedia

How are these two things even related? In Russian, it would be called “Bombing Voronezh” (harming your own to affect the enemy, Voronezh is an old provincial Russian city).

(I shall link the joke about bombing Voronezh separately.) But Dima Yakovlev’s law had little to do with Americans caring better for Russian adoptees.

I think - I would think - the decision meant to punish Americans for Magnitsky’s act and in fact, came out of deep misunderstanding of American mentality. It was assumed that white, rich Americans would want to adopt babies looking like them (blond and blue-eyed). IRL, by that time, lots of US couples were adopting from China or Africa. By that time, cult, popular, figures like Angelina Jolie were deeply into international adoptions. So, that way of thinking was totally off.

More about this topic. Explains a lot
Invisible Children: Russia’s Dima Yakovlev Law

 

[Elley Mae]

Ukrainian American school custodian in GA stunned by student artwork honoring Ukraine

Ukrainian American school custodian in GA stunned by student artwork honoring Ukraine

…

 

[Elley Mae]

That’s the power of propaganda.

“The people will believe what the media tells them they believe.” - George Orwell

Not happening just in Russia.

Jmo