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''CNN's Jake Tapper speaks with International Criminal Court Prosecutor Karim Khan, who is leading the war crimes investigation in Ukraine, about what he saw while touring Bucha and Borodianka.''
Apr 14, 2022
(5) Top international prosecutor speaks to CNN after visiting Bucha - YouTube

Live updates: Russia invades Ukraine, country braces for major Donbas offensive (cnn.com)
''12 min ago rbbm.
ICC Chief Prosecutor: Ukraine "is a moment that should wake everybody up"
From CNN's Hande Atay Alam in Atlanta
International Criminal Court chief prosecutor Karim Khan told CNN it may be challenging to guarantee that justice will be served after the war, given that Russia has withdrawn its signature from the ICC statute.

"We can't be naive about things. We need to be realistic," Khan said. "But first things first, collect the evidence, preserve it, analyze it, and make determinations based on what it shows. And those determinations can be checked by judges."
Visit to Bucha: Khan said he visited the Ukrainian towns of Bucha and Borodyanka this week, where mass graves of murdered civilians were discovered in early April following the Russian forces' withdrawal from northern Ukraine.

“Ukraine is a crime scene," Khan said, according to a tweet by the ICC. "We’re here because we have reasonable grounds to believe that crimes within the jurisdiction of the ICC are being committed. We have to pierce the fog of war to get to the truth."
Need for unity: Khan said he believed the mission of investigating war crimes affects not just Ukraine but the entire world, and that "a common front needs to be built."

"We wait for crimes in different parts of the world and say never again. And we see it again, time and time again. It should put us to shame. So we have to decide when we will react based on our shared humanity and I think this is a moment that should wake everybody up," Khan said.
"Many other instances should have but certainly, this is the moment where we should consolidate, wake up, and fight for something that's very important, which is legality." he added.''
 
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The Kyiv Independent on Twitter - 5 hrs ago
Russia says its flagship Moskva has sunk. On the day before, Ukraine said that Moskva was hit by Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missiles in the Black Sea. Russia claimed that the missile cruiser suffered from a fire that detonated ammunition on board.

The Kyiv Independent on Twitter
Russia's defense ministry said that the damaged warship sank as it was being towed to dock. Forbes Ukraine has estimated that Moskva cost $750 million, making it the most expensive military loss of Russia to day.

Euromaidan Press on Twitter - 4 hrs ago
Oleh Kozhemyakin, former deputy mayor of Kakhovka &veteran was held captive by Russia for 10 days After being released,"he was diagnosed with a concussion, rib fracture; has broken teeth. His condition is that he is barely recognizable,"–hospital worker told The occupiers released Oleg Kozhemyakin | Europrostir (eprostir.org)
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Euromaidan Press on Twitter
"Oleh Kozhemyakin, like me, was kept in a torture chamber set up [by Russians]. He was constantly beaten. Other prisoners confessed to me they had been 'beaten in a way that it would be better to be killed',"–Kakhovka resident who escaped from Russian captivity told anonymously.

NEXTA on Twitter
An air-raid alert on the entire territory of #Ukraine.
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Euromaidan Press on Twitter - 1 hr ago
A Ukrainian tractor driver was killed by a Russian mine near Chernihiv, police said. While several civilians were killed by mines earlier, including several who were just walking & one electricity crew on vehicle, this is the first case with a tractor. https://facebook.com/policechernigivshchini/posts/358956059608573
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Euromaidan Press on Twitter
“Those aircraft [heavy attack drones] could be in the hands of Ukrainian military pilots in a matter of days,” General Atomics spokesman C. Mark said after meeting with Ukrainian officials in Washington. The U.S. government would have to approve sale. Ukraine May Get U.S. MQ-9 Reaper Strike Drones
 
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[URL='https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/apr/14/russia-ukraine-war-latest-russia-says-warship-seriously-damaged-after-ammunition-explosion-us-to-send-800m-in-military-aid-to-ukraine-live']Russia-Ukraine war latest: Russia says Moskva warship has sunk after reported missile strike – live (theguardian.com)[/URL]

1h ago 21.45
'They didn’t know us' Zelenskiy praises Ukraine's bravery on 50th day of war

Ukraine President Zelenskiy has marked the 50th day of war, calling Russia’s invasion “absurd” and “suicidal” in his latest national address.

We have withstood 50 days already. 50 days of Russian invasion, although the occupiers gave us a maximum of five,” he began.

I remember the first day of the invasion of the Russian Federation. I remember what I was told on February 24 ... To put it mildly, no one was sure that we would withstand it. Everyone sympathised. Many of them advised me to flee the country. Advised to actually surrender to tyranny.

But they didn’t know us either. And they did not know how brave Ukrainians are, how much we value freedom. Our opportunity to live the way we want. Not the people who rule in such a way that their army sees toilets for the first time in their lives in the occupied territories and steals even ordinary household appliances.

Zelenskiy said Russian troops “are already repeating on our land what Europe saw only during World War II” while criticising the west’s severity of sanctions.

50 days of our defence is an achievement. Achievement of millions of Ukrainians,” he added.

During the 50 days of this war, Ukraine became a hero for the whole free world. For those who have the courage to call a spade a spade. For those who are not poisoned by propaganda.

You have all become heroes. All Ukrainian men and women who withstood and do not give up. And who will win. Who will return peace to Ukraine. I’m sure of it.
 
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From Telegram/Eto Boris Akunin (Real Russia).
(By Boris Akunin/Chartchishvili, one of Russia’s best authors, author of the “Russian State History.”)

(Opinion, not news).

“ I categorically disapprove of Stephen King's initiative supported by other authors to stop selling their works in Russia. I also think it was a big mistake that Netflix and some other majors from the cultural world decided to ostracize Russia.

Such moves only strengthen Putin’s dictatorship, they support its propaganda efforts to persuade Russians that the entire world is against them.

The world is not against Russians. The world is against Putin who doesn’t read Stephen King and doesn’t watch Netflix.

Do not help Putin please. Let it be him himself who cancels culture. Let Russians realize that it’s the dictator who robs them, who cuts the access to books, films, music. “

I personally 100% agree with Akunin.

How will Russians even know what is happening in Ukraine if they are cut off world information? They turn to the only available source…
 
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Explosies gehoord in onder meer Kiev en Cherson • Oekraïne: afgelopen dag 2557 mensen geëvacueerd

(Explosions heard in Kiev and Kherson, among others • Ukraine: 2,557 people evacuated last day)


6 HOURS AGO

Video embedded

Dutch F-35s in action in Bulgaria: 'The Russian aggression forces us to do this'

During a welcome ceremony yesterday for the four Dutch F-35 aircraft in Bulgaria, Air Force commander Dennis Luyt gave a speech.

Speech:
It is the Russian invasion of Ukraine that has forced us, as NATO allies, to redouble our efforts to protect the integrity of NATO's eastern flanks and the security of our Eastern European allies. We must be aware that while we stand here in freedom, the Ukrainian people suffer from brutal Russian aggression. We must also think of them today. The Netherlands is proud to be part of the Air Policing Team, with four F-35s and a division of 100 men and women here based at Graf Ignatievo. We carry out NATO duties here and work closely with our friends and allies from the Bulgarian Air Force.

AN HOUR AGO
Russia warns US to stop arms transfers
Russia has warned the United States to stop arming Ukraine. The supply of weapons adds fuel to the fire and could have "unpredictable consequences," reads a diplomatic request that Russia has made to the US. The Washington Post has seen the report.

The request came after the US pledged an additional $800 million in military resources to Ukraine. The diplomatic note shows that the delivery of advanced missile launchers is particularly troubling the Kremlin.

According to experts with whom The Washington Post spoke, Russia could start attacking arms shipments from the West as soon as they arrive in Ukraine. So far there have been no attacks on weapons transports.

Both parties refuse to respond to the request in the newspaper.
 
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Apr 14, 2022
Steven Seagal gushes 'I love all of you' at Putin's 70th birthday bash | Canoe.Com
"Seagal, a one-time Hollywood action star who has become a punchline in recent years, was caught on camera giving a loving speech to Vladimir Putin during the Russian president’s 70th birthday celebrations Sunday in Moscow, according to the Daily Mail.


Video recorded at Putin’s lavish bash, which drew many of the country’s elites who have been targeted by Western sanctions over the Russian invasion of Ukraine, showed Seagal, wearing his customary black shirt and yellow glasses, gushing over his friendship with Mad Vlad and his cronies and his love for Russia.''

''Seagal once described Putin as “one of the greatest world leaders, if not the greatest world leader, alive today” and told Fox News Digital in February that an “outside entity” was causing the friction between Russia and Ukraine.''

As Alexander Nevzorov, a well-known Russian journalist who left the country after the invasion, has said, “in Kremlin, you just have to be in the right place at the right time, and you end up under a windfall of dollars…they stick to your face, your clothes. They have these dollar wind blowers installed in Kremlin. Of course, all who get under them suddenly turn poets and start fantasizing”. Applies to Seagal, too.
 
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Russia threatens military build up if Finland or Sweden join NATO

The deputy chair of Russia's security council has said the country would have to reinforce its forces in the Baltic Sea if Finland or Sweden were to join the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO).

He said that Finland or Sweden joining NATO would mean the "length of the alliance's land borders with Russia will more than double".

"Naturally, these borders will have to be strengthened," he added.

Lithuanian defence minister Arvydas Anušauskas was quoted by the Baltic News Service as saying the threats were "strange" because there are already nuclear weapons in the Kaliningrad region.

Interesting piece of history, with maps and such.

WHY DOES RUSSIA OWN LAND ABOVE POLAND (KALININGRAD OBLAST) and under Lithuania?

Why Does Russia Own Land Above Poland (Kaliningrad Oblast)? | Maphover Interactive World Maps
 
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Good move!

The most funny thing (to me) is that the flagship is gone...I just see Putin with a very red head, stumping his feet, having a temper tantrum. Maybe he could get a stroke or something <this man pulls out things in me, I would never thought off>. On the bad site....He is going to lash out, already started.....I'm holding my heart. Who is going to believe the story that the ship sunk, because of a spontaneous fire on board and at the same time be so very angry on Ukraine because of that...Very inconsistent....BS....I hope the Russian people get it now.
 
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Good move!

The most funny thing (to me) is that the flagship is gone...I just see Putin with a very red head, stumping his feet, having a temper tantrum. Maybe he could get a stroke or something <this man pulls out things in me, I would never thought off>. On the bad site....He is going to lash out, already started.....I'm holding my heart. Who is going to believe the story that the ship sunk, because of a spontaneous fire on board and at the same time be so very angry on Ukraine because of that...Very inconsistent....BS....I hope the Russian people get it now.

That is how I see him too and I bet the thing he is hating the most is people making fun of him and laugh...so.....it probably can cause a stroke.
 
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Russia-Ukraine war live updates: Moscow vows renewed attacks on Kyiv after warship sinks (nbcnews.com)
''Russia blocks The Moscow Times’ Russian language website

Reuters
52m ago / 7:11 AM EDT rbbm.
Russia’s communications watchdog has blocked access to the Russian language website of The Moscow Times, a newspaper that has covered Russia for three decades since the collapse of the Soviet Union.
The Moscow Times said Russian internet providers had already started to block its Russian-language site. It published a notice from Russia’s communications watchdog which said its site was now blocked.
Russia’s communications watchdog did not immediately respond to a request for comment.''

''Finland 'highly likely' to join NATO, minister says
Finland's minister for Europe has said it is now "highly likely" the country, which shares a border with Russia, will join NATO.

"The people of Finland seem to have already made up their minds," Tytti Tuppurainen said on U.K. broadcaster Sky News on Friday, though she cautioned that the issue still needed to be discussed in the country's parliament.

Russia’s actions and its “brutal” war in Ukraine had been “a wake-up call to us all,” she said.

Moscow warned on Thursday that if Sweden and Finland join the transatlantic military alliance, Russia would deploy nuclear weapons to a Russian enclave on the Baltic Sea, in the heart of Europe.''
 
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Good move!

The most funny thing (to me) is that the flagship is gone...I just see Putin with a very red head, stumping his feet, having a temper tantrum. Maybe he could get a stroke or something <this man pulls out things in me, I would never thought off>. On the bad site....He is going to lash out, already started.....I'm holding my heart. Who is going to believe the story that the ship sunk, because of a spontaneous fire on board and at the same time be so very angry on Ukraine because of that...Very inconsistent....BS....I hope the Russian people get it now.
I am honestly worried about how Putin is going to (over)react to this. It will bring back terrible memories for him of the Kursk sinking in 2000, which almost destroyed his presidency before it got started and apparently still haunts him. He started to clamp down on Russian freedoms after that to regain control of his image and the lies began. The loss of life with the Moskva sinking (500 crew) appears much greater than that of the Kursk. Who knows what this wingnut will do in an attempt at damage limitation to his reputation within Russia.

Kursk Anniversary: Submarine Disaster Was Putin's 'First Lie'

(...)

The Kursk disaster and its aftermath, Kuznetsov says, was President Vladimir Putin's "first lie."

"The lies began with the sinking of the Kursk," Kuznetsov says. "When the Kursk sank, the government began interfering with the legal and law-enforcement systems. The government began gathering all the mass media under its control. The entire process of undermining democracy in Russia, in many regards, began with this."

Kuznetsov, 67, represented the families of 55 of the drowned Kursk seamen. Now he has political asylum in the United States. The Russian government has opened a criminal case against him and issued an international arrest warrant for him. He says the charges -- which accuse him of revealing state secrets because he demonstrated to a Russian court that the Federal Security Service (FSB) was illegally wiretapping a member of parliament -- were intended to prevent him from carrying out his high-profile legal work.

Indeed, Russia was a different country when the Kursk sank on August 12, 2000, during a massive naval exercise in the Barents Sea. It was just a few months after Putin began his first term as president. National television was controlled by oligarchs and had feisty relations with the government.

In October 2000, prominent television journalist Sergei Dorenko ran a one-hour special on the Kursk tragedy on Russia's national ORT television, then controlled by tycoon Boris Berezovsky. After enumerating the government's failures in its handling of the disaster, Dorenko ended the piece with this conclusion:

"The story of the Kursk is not finished. We have only raised the very first questions and conclusions. The main conclusion is that the government does not respect any of us -- and so it is lying. And the main thing is that the government treats us this way only because we allow it to."

When a visibly rattled Putin met with the wives and families of Kursk seamen on August 22, 2000, no one was afraid to scream at him and accuse him of incompetence or worse:

That encounter, Kuznetsov says, may have been "the worst moment" of Putin's life -- and he immediately set out to make sure he would never face anything like it again.
(BBM)

(...)

The Kursk Catastrophe, A Lesson For Putin, Is Fading From Russia’s Attention 20 Years Later

(...)

MOSCOW -- In August 2000, the nuclear submarine Kursk left a port above Russia’s Arctic Circle for naval exercises on the Barents Sea. Not long after departure, one of the torpedoes on board the vessel exploded in its hatch, killing most of the 118 crew members and sending the wreck, along with 23 survivors, hurtling to the seafloor.

The blast was picked up on seismographs across Europe, but the Russian Navy made no public acknowledgement of the catastrophe. President Vladimir Putin, then just over three months into his first Kremlin term, continued vacationing on the Black Sea and made no statement about the Kursk for more than a week until his reluctant return to Moscow.

(...)

In Putin’s People, a new book investigating Putin’s rise by journalist Catherine Belton, a person once close to the Russian president says the newly minted leader was paralyzed by fear when the Kursk disaster struck, and livid over the ways TV amplified his desultory response.

“He didn’t know how to deal with it, and therefore he tried to avoid dealing with it,” Belton quotes the former Putin ally as saying. “The Norwegians and others were calling in with offers of help. But he did not want them to uncover that everyone was dead, and so he just refused the help -- which, of course, made everything worse.”

When Putin finally visited the closed military city that served as the Kursk’s home port and spoke to a hall packed with bereaved relatives a full 10 days after the catastrophe, he put the blame on Russia’s economic and military decline over the previous decade – before he came to power -- and denounced the TV channels that had slammed his fumbled response.

“They bought the media and now they’re manipulating public opinion,” he said of Berezovsky and other powerful media magnates.

In the months that followed, Putin’s government would bring Channel One under the control of the state, forcing Berezovsky to sell his stake under duress and eventually flee Russia, and seized the NTV channel from another business titan, Vladimir Gusinsky.

(...)
 
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I am honestly worried about how Putin is going to (over)react to this. It will bring back terrible memories for him of the Kursk sinking in 2000, which almost destroyed his presidency before it got started and apparently still haunts him. He started to clamp down on Russian freedoms after that to regain control of his image and the lies began. The loss of life with the Moskva sinking (500 crew) appears much greater than that of the Kursk. Who knows what this wingnut will do in an attempt at damage limitation to his reputation within Russia.

Kursk Anniversary: Submarine Disaster Was Putin's 'First Lie'

(...)

The Kursk disaster and its aftermath, Kuznetsov says, was President Vladimir Putin's "first lie."

"The lies began with the sinking of the Kursk," Kuznetsov says. "When the Kursk sank, the government began interfering with the legal and law-enforcement systems. The government began gathering all the mass media under its control. The entire process of undermining democracy in Russia, in many regards, began with this."

Kuznetsov, 67, represented the families of 55 of the drowned Kursk seamen. Now he has political asylum in the United States. The Russian government has opened a criminal case against him and issued an international arrest warrant for him. He says the charges -- which accuse him of revealing state secrets because he demonstrated to a Russian court that the Federal Security Service (FSB) was illegally wiretapping a member of parliament -- were intended to prevent him from carrying out his high-profile legal work.

Indeed, Russia was a different country when the Kursk sank on August 12, 2000, during a massive naval exercise in the Barents Sea. It was just a few months after Putin began his first term as president. National television was controlled by oligarchs and had feisty relations with the government.

In October 2000, prominent television journalist Sergei Dorenko ran a one-hour special on the Kursk tragedy on Russia's national ORT television, then controlled by tycoon Boris Berezovsky. After enumerating the government's failures in its handling of the disaster, Dorenko ended the piece with this conclusion:

"The story of the Kursk is not finished. We have only raised the very first questions and conclusions. The main conclusion is that the government does not respect any of us -- and so it is lying. And the main thing is that the government treats us this way only because we allow it to."

When a visibly rattled Putin met with the wives and families of Kursk seamen on August 22, 2000, no one was afraid to scream at him and accuse him of incompetence or worse:

That encounter, Kuznetsov says, may have been "the worst moment" of Putin's life -- and he immediately set out to make sure he would never face anything like it again.
(BBM)

(...)

The Kursk Catastrophe, A Lesson For Putin, Is Fading From Russia’s Attention 20 Years Later

(...)

MOSCOW -- In August 2000, the nuclear submarine Kursk left a port above Russia’s Arctic Circle for naval exercises on the Barents Sea. Not long after departure, one of the torpedoes on board the vessel exploded in its hatch, killing most of the 118 crew members and sending the wreck, along with 23 survivors, hurtling to the seafloor.

The blast was picked up on seismographs across Europe, but the Russian Navy made no public acknowledgement of the catastrophe. President Vladimir Putin, then just over three months into his first Kremlin term, continued vacationing on the Black Sea and made no statement about the Kursk for more than a week until his reluctant return to Moscow.

(...)

In Putin’s People, a new book investigating Putin’s rise by journalist Catherine Belton, a person once close to the Russian president says the newly minted leader was paralyzed by fear when the Kursk disaster struck, and livid over the ways TV amplified his desultory response.

“He didn’t know how to deal with it, and therefore he tried to avoid dealing with it,” Belton quotes the former Putin ally as saying. “The Norwegians and others were calling in with offers of help. But he did not want them to uncover that everyone was dead, and so he just refused the help -- which, of course, made everything worse.”

When Putin finally visited the closed military city that served as the Kursk’s home port and spoke to a hall packed with bereaved relatives a full 10 days after the catastrophe, he put the blame on Russia’s economic and military decline over the previous decade – before he came to power -- and denounced the TV channels that had slammed his fumbled response.

“They bought the media and now they’re manipulating public opinion,” he said of Berezovsky and other powerful media magnates.

In the months that followed, Putin’s government would bring Channel One under the control of the state, forcing Berezovsky to sell his stake under duress and eventually flee Russia, and seized the NTV channel from another business titan, Vladimir Gusinsky.

(...)

Oh...this man......No words.....
 
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I am honestly worried about how Putin is going to (over)react to this. It will bring back terrible memories for him of the Kursk sinking in 2000, which almost destroyed his presidency before it got started and apparently still haunts him. He started to clamp down on Russian freedoms after that to regain control of his image and the lies began. The loss of life with the Moskva sinking (500 crew) appears much greater than that of the Kursk. Who knows what this wingnut will do in an attempt at damage limitation to his reputation within Russia.

Kursk Anniversary: Submarine Disaster Was Putin's 'First Lie'

(...)

The Kursk disaster and its aftermath, Kuznetsov says, was President Vladimir Putin's "first lie."

"The lies began with the sinking of the Kursk," Kuznetsov says. "When the Kursk sank, the government began interfering with the legal and law-enforcement systems. The government began gathering all the mass media under its control. The entire process of undermining democracy in Russia, in many regards, began with this."

Kuznetsov, 67, represented the families of 55 of the drowned Kursk seamen. Now he has political asylum in the United States. The Russian government has opened a criminal case against him and issued an international arrest warrant for him. He says the charges -- which accuse him of revealing state secrets because he demonstrated to a Russian court that the Federal Security Service (FSB) was illegally wiretapping a member of parliament -- were intended to prevent him from carrying out his high-profile legal work.

Indeed, Russia was a different country when the Kursk sank on August 12, 2000, during a massive naval exercise in the Barents Sea. It was just a few months after Putin began his first term as president. National television was controlled by oligarchs and had feisty relations with the government.

In October 2000, prominent television journalist Sergei Dorenko ran a one-hour special on the Kursk tragedy on Russia's national ORT television, then controlled by tycoon Boris Berezovsky. After enumerating the government's failures in its handling of the disaster, Dorenko ended the piece with this conclusion:

"The story of the Kursk is not finished. We have only raised the very first questions and conclusions. The main conclusion is that the government does not respect any of us -- and so it is lying. And the main thing is that the government treats us this way only because we allow it to."

When a visibly rattled Putin met with the wives and families of Kursk seamen on August 22, 2000, no one was afraid to scream at him and accuse him of incompetence or worse:

That encounter, Kuznetsov says, may have been "the worst moment" of Putin's life -- and he immediately set out to make sure he would never face anything like it again.
(BBM)

(...)

The Kursk Catastrophe, A Lesson For Putin, Is Fading From Russia’s Attention 20 Years Later

(...)

MOSCOW -- In August 2000, the nuclear submarine Kursk left a port above Russia’s Arctic Circle for naval exercises on the Barents Sea. Not long after departure, one of the torpedoes on board the vessel exploded in its hatch, killing most of the 118 crew members and sending the wreck, along with 23 survivors, hurtling to the seafloor.

The blast was picked up on seismographs across Europe, but the Russian Navy made no public acknowledgement of the catastrophe. President Vladimir Putin, then just over three months into his first Kremlin term, continued vacationing on the Black Sea and made no statement about the Kursk for more than a week until his reluctant return to Moscow.

(...)

In Putin’s People, a new book investigating Putin’s rise by journalist Catherine Belton, a person once close to the Russian president says the newly minted leader was paralyzed by fear when the Kursk disaster struck, and livid over the ways TV amplified his desultory response.

“He didn’t know how to deal with it, and therefore he tried to avoid dealing with it,” Belton quotes the former Putin ally as saying. “The Norwegians and others were calling in with offers of help. But he did not want them to uncover that everyone was dead, and so he just refused the help -- which, of course, made everything worse.”

When Putin finally visited the closed military city that served as the Kursk’s home port and spoke to a hall packed with bereaved relatives a full 10 days after the catastrophe, he put the blame on Russia’s economic and military decline over the previous decade – before he came to power -- and denounced the TV channels that had slammed his fumbled response.

“They bought the media and now they’re manipulating public opinion,” he said of Berezovsky and other powerful media magnates.

In the months that followed, Putin’s government would bring Channel One under the control of the state, forcing Berezovsky to sell his stake under duress and eventually flee Russia, and seized the NTV channel from another business titan, Vladimir Gusinsky.

(...)

Has it been verified if the crew on the Moskva perished or not?

We've went from "oh hey little fire" to rage over "you sunk my ship". So obviously we know Russia lies to lie. But what is the status of the crew? I'm confused.

JMO
 
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