Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022

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To be honest...I'm not very impressed by the usual overly sensationalized reporting of the Daily Fail....Please check sources.


Blinken says Putin has his sights on countries beyond Ukraine

Blinken says Putin has his sights on countries beyond Ukraine



SECRETARY BLINKEN: Is it a possibility that Putin goes beyond Ukraine? Sure, it’s a possibility, but there’s something very powerful standing in the way of that. That’s something we call Article 5 of NATO. That means an attack on one member of NATO is an attack on all members of NATO. The President’s been very clear that we will defend every inch of NATO territory. I think that’s the most powerful deterrent against President Putin going beyond Ukraine.

Secretary Antony J. Blinken On ABC World News Tonight with David Muir - United States Department of State

 
  • #342
All the girls/women in Russia...stand up....This freaking country is builed up by women....after all their men where killed in wars.....ftk. Putin...says I'm not going to chance my strategy, opinions as a girl. Have you ever heard so much sexism?? OMG And that for a so called world leader who is hanging on history....:eek::eek::(
Putin's so-called machismo rules the day in Russia...he had to wrestle and tame a bear to join the Bear Cavalry...don't cha know, he's so spectacular:rolleyes:...**becoming ill**
 
  • #343
Blinken says Putin has his sights on countries beyond Ukraine

Blinken says Putin has his sights on countries beyond Ukraine



SECRETARY BLINKEN: Is it a possibility that Putin goes beyond Ukraine? Sure, it’s a possibility, but there’s something very powerful standing in the way of that. That’s something we call Article 5 of NATO. That means an attack on one member of NATO is an attack on all members of NATO. The President’s been very clear that we will defend every inch of NATO territory. I think that’s the most powerful deterrent against President Putin going beyond Ukraine.

Secretary Antony J. Blinken On ABC World News Tonight with David Muir - United States Department of State


Thank you. X No hard feelings.
 
  • #344
I guess I’m not the only one who is reminded of Hitler’s invasion of Czechoslovakia leading up to WWII.

https://wapo.st/3LYKRuZ

“The argument that Hitler made is very, very similar to the one Putin’s made,” said Dov S. Zakheim, senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think tank, and a former undersecretary of defense. Putin, he said, is claiming that the Ukrainian government is “mistreating these poor Russian speakers in eastern Ukraine,” who need Putin to come to their defense.

“So it’s the same playbook,” Zakheim said. “When [Hitler] bit off the Sudetenland, his argument was: ‘These people don’t want to be part of Czechoslovakia. They’re Germans.’ Putin’s saying the same thing about these people in Donetsk and Luhansk: ‘They don’t want to be part of Ukraine. They’re Russians.’ Same exact argument.”

With Thursday’s attack, “he’s expanding it,” Zakheim said. And the example of the late 1930s hints at how far that expansion could go.

BBM
 
  • #345
I guess I’m not the only one who is reminded of Hitler’s invasion of Czechoslovakia leading up to WWII.

https://wapo.st/3LYKRuZ

“The argument that Hitler made is very, very similar to the one Putin’s made,” said Dov S. Zakheim, senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think tank, and a former undersecretary of defense. Putin, he said, is claiming that the Ukrainian government is “mistreating these poor Russian speakers in eastern Ukraine,” who need Putin to come to their defense.

“So it’s the same playbook,” Zakheim said. “When [Hitler] bit off the Sudetenland, his argument was: ‘These people don’t want to be part of Czechoslovakia. They’re Germans.’ Putin’s saying the same thing about these people in Donetsk and Luhansk: ‘They don’t want to be part of Ukraine. They’re Russians.’ Same exact argument.”

With Thursday’s attack, “he’s expanding it,” Zakheim said. And the example of the late 1930s hints at how far that expansion could go.

BBM

I would like to prevent this....but my little aggressive mental voice says....bomb the Kremlin....this is as far as it goes.....time to go "mate".
 
  • #346
I guess I’m not the only one who is reminded of Hitler’s invasion of Czechoslovakia leading up to WWII.

https://wapo.st/3LYKRuZ

“The argument that Hitler made is very, very similar to the one Putin’s made,” said Dov S. Zakheim, senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think tank, and a former undersecretary of defense. Putin, he said, is claiming that the Ukrainian government is “mistreating these poor Russian speakers in eastern Ukraine,” who need Putin to come to their defense.

“So it’s the same playbook,” Zakheim said. “When [Hitler] bit off the Sudetenland, his argument was: ‘These people don’t want to be part of Czechoslovakia. They’re Germans.’ Putin’s saying the same thing about these people in Donetsk and Luhansk: ‘They don’t want to be part of Ukraine. They’re Russians.’ Same exact argument.”

With Thursday’s attack, “he’s expanding it,” Zakheim said. And the example of the late 1930s hints at how far that expansion could go.

BBM
Which is why newspapers/media everywhere should be shouting that from every rooftop!
 
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I would like to prevent this....but my little aggressive mental voice says....bomb the Kremlin....this is as far as it goes.....time to go "mate".
It's so easy to go there, isn't it. I keep having to remember a t-shirt I had way back in the day that said, "M.A.D. is NUTS"... it's not the same as WWII anymore, it's not the same as the Missiles of October...it seems every Tom, Dick and Harry has a nuke or two. Megalomaniacs have the internet to broaden their "base". It's a whole new world...but we can watch Tom in MI-whatever blow up the Kremlin. IIRC, they took it very well in that movie.
 
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We all have to wait until 18.00 hours..CET press conference
 
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Donald Tusk: EU capitals ‘disgraced themselves’

Former European Council President Donald Tusk said Friday that some EU governments had “disgraced themselves” by refusing to impose the toughest possible sanctions on Russia even as President Vladimir Putin was bombing Kyiv.

The remarkable rebuke by Tusk, who led meetings of the Council as president from 2014 to 2019, revealed deep divisions among Europe’s political elite at what is perhaps the Continent’s most acute moment of crisis since World War II.

“In this war everything is real: Putin’s madness and cruelty, Ukrainian victims, bombs falling on Kyiv,” Tusk posted on Twitter. “Only your sanctions are pretended [sic]. Those EU governments which blocked tough decisions (i.a. Germany, Hungary, Italy) have disgraced themselves.”

Tusk’s slap at Germany, the EU’s largest, richest member state and de facto leader of the union of 27 states, came hours after Chancellor Olaf Scholz led a group of leaders who blocked tougher sanctions during an emergency summit in Brussels.

In doing so, the EU heads of state and government rejected a personal appeal from Ukraine’s top leaders, including President Volodymyr Zelenskiy and Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba, for the toughest possible sanctions against Moscow, including cutting Russia off from the SWIFT international payments system.

The United States, Britain and some EU capitals have all indicated they support such a ban, but some countries — including Germany Italy, and Austria — said they wanted to keep some further sanctions ammunition in reserve.

(...)
 
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Looks like one of those 4 live cams got knocked out



well it was:rolleyes:
 
  • #355
Donald Tusk: EU capitals ‘disgraced themselves’

Former European Council President Donald Tusk said Friday that some EU governments had “disgraced themselves” by refusing to impose the toughest possible sanctions on Russia even as President Vladimir Putin was bombing Kyiv.

The remarkable rebuke by Tusk, who led meetings of the Council as president from 2014 to 2019, revealed deep divisions among Europe’s political elite at what is perhaps the Continent’s most acute moment of crisis since World War II.

“In this war everything is real: Putin’s madness and cruelty, Ukrainian victims, bombs falling on Kyiv,” Tusk posted on Twitter. “Only your sanctions are pretended [sic]. Those EU governments which blocked tough decisions (i.a. Germany, Hungary, Italy) have disgraced themselves.”

Tusk’s slap at Germany, the EU’s largest, richest member state and de facto leader of the union of 27 states, came hours after Chancellor Olaf Scholz led a group of leaders who blocked tougher sanctions during an emergency summit in Brussels.

In doing so, the EU heads of state and government rejected a personal appeal from Ukraine’s top leaders, including President Volodymyr Zelenskiy and Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba, for the toughest possible sanctions against Moscow, including cutting Russia off from the SWIFT international payments system.

The United States, Britain and some EU capitals have all indicated they support such a ban, but some countries — including Germany Italy, and Austria — said they wanted to keep some further sanctions ammunition in reserve.

(...)

It's kind of funny...not funny at all....former world leaders..they can all now say harsh things...but they didn't when they were in charge.
 
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Why the Toughest Sanctions on Russia Are the Hardest for Europe to Wield

Moscow relies on the money it makes by selling oil and gas, but that energy fuels Europe’s economy and heats its homes.

The punishing sanctions that the United States and European Union have so far announced against Russia for its invasion of Ukraine include shutting the government and banks out of global financial markets, restricting technology exports and freezing assets of influential Russians. Noticeably missing from that list is a reprisal that might cause Russia the most pain: choking off the export of Russian fuel.

The omission is not surprising. In recent years, the European Union has received nearly 40 percent of its gas and more than a quarter of its oil from Russia. That energy heats Europe’s homes, powers its factories and fuels its vehicles, while pumping enormous sums of money into the Russian economy.

Losing out on those revenues would be hard for Russia, which relies heavily on energy exports to finance its government operations and support its economy. Oil and gas exports provide more than a third of the national budget. But a cutoff would hurt Europe as well.

“You want the sanctions to hurt the perpetrator more than the victim,” said David L. Goldwyn, who served as a State Department special envoy on energy in the Obama administration.

(...)

Now, the European Union is Russia’s largest trading partner, accounting for 37 percent of its global trade in 2020. About 70 percent of Russian gas exports and half of its oil exports go to Europe.

The flip side of mutual interest is mutual pain.

European leaders are caught between wanting to punish Russia for its aggression and to protect their own economies.

So far, Germany’s decision on Tuesday to halt Nord Stream 2 — the completed gas pipeline that directly links Russia and northeastern Germany — is among the most consequential that Europe has taken, said Mathieu Savary, chief European investment strategist at BCA Research.

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“Europe is quite dependent on Russian gas and oil, and this is unsustainable,” said Sarah E. Mendelson, the head of Carnegie Mellon’s Heinz College in Washington. She added that the United States and its European allies had not focused enough on energy independence in recent years.

Overall, Europe gets more than a third of its natural gas and 25 percent of its oil from Russia. Deliveries have slowed significantly in recent months, while reserves in Europe have fallen to just 31 percent of capacity.

Climate Fears on Back Burner as Fuel Costs Soar and Russia Crisis Deepens



Leaders in EUrope have failed their ppl by allowing this.

Jmo
 
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Why the Toughest Sanctions on Russia Are the Hardest for Europe to Wield

Moscow relies on the money it makes by selling oil and gas, but that energy fuels Europe’s economy and heats its homes.

The punishing sanctions that the United States and European Union have so far announced against Russia for its invasion of Ukraine include shutting the government and banks out of global financial markets, restricting technology exports and freezing assets of influential Russians. Noticeably missing from that list is a reprisal that might cause Russia the most pain: choking off the export of Russian fuel.

The omission is not surprising. In recent years, the European Union has received nearly 40 percent of its gas and more than a quarter of its oil from Russia. That energy heats Europe’s homes, powers its factories and fuels its vehicles, while pumping enormous sums of money into the Russian economy.

Losing out on those revenues would be hard for Russia, which relies heavily on energy exports to finance its government operations and support its economy. Oil and gas exports provide more than a third of the national budget. But a cutoff would hurt Europe as well.

“You want the sanctions to hurt the perpetrator more than the victim,” said David L. Goldwyn, who served as a State Department special envoy on energy in the Obama administration.

(...)

Now, the European Union is Russia’s largest trading partner, accounting for 37 percent of its global trade in 2020. About 70 percent of Russian gas exports and half of its oil exports go to Europe.

The flip side of mutual interest is mutual pain.

European leaders are caught between wanting to punish Russia for its aggression and to protect their own economies.

So far, Germany’s decision on Tuesday to halt Nord Stream 2 — the completed gas pipeline that directly links Russia and northeastern Germany — is among the most consequential that Europe has taken, said Mathieu Savary, chief European investment strategist at BCA Research.

(...)

Meanwhile, back in the U.S, WE have to suffer higher oil/gas prices because of a war in Europe, and because the PTB crippled our own energy production. Something is smelly.
 
  • #359
I would like to prevent this....but my little aggressive mental voice says....bomb the Kremlin....this is as far as it goes.....time to go "mate".

As long as they leave St Basils Cathedral alone, one of the most beautiful buildings I’ve ever seen!
 
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