S.A. Concerned Defense will Sell Pics of Caylee's Remains

  • #201
I am glad the SA is getting it out there that they have been profitting from selling the pics. I think they are getting ready to charge them and want the public to know what they have been up to.

Ohhh, you think? I'm waiting each day to hear LE has moved ahead to charge the Anthony clan for OJ or withholding evidence. I'm glad to read some one else is expecting the same.
 
  • #202
Boy, I'd hate to know what everyone thinks about the fact that my husband's remains were in a plastic bag inside a plastic box for 7 months until I dispersed his ashes up in the mountains! Casey is being told that the defense believes a second autopsy MUST be done, and before that autopsy can be done, the defense MUST get the prosecutions' information.

Posturing by lawyers toward a 22 year old facing unimaginable legal issues seems to me directly set upon the lawyers, and not the 22 year old. Casey is not holding Caylee hostage. She COULD release the remains to her parents. But her lawyer has motioned IN COURT that they need the prosecution's info.

Please, someone tell me who, outside of her lawyers, Casey has had contact with in order for her to understand she could go against these people. I don't believe she's being victimized necessarily. I just think, in isolation, she is being limited in terms of what's going on "outside."

"Casey, sign this document that gives us a chance to get a second autopsy. It's the best thing we can do right now for your case." "Casey, here's the release form for the ME to give the remains to the funeral home. We can't have a funeral just yet because we can't have the autopsy until we get xyz...."

I'm just saying......as a 22 year old, and this particular 22 year old whose demonstrated personality seems to be driven by the people in her life, this particular 22 year old whose whole purpose in HER life has been to please the ones showing her concern, is doing what she's told because that's what she's been told to do.
 
  • #203
Boy, I'd hate to know what everyone thinks about the fact that my husband's remains were in a plastic bag inside a plastic box for 7 months until I dispersed his ashes up in the mountains! Casey is being told that the defense believes a second autopsy MUST be done, and before that autopsy can be done, the defense MUST get the prosecutions' information.

Posturing by lawyers toward a 22 year old facing unimaginable legal issues seems to me directly set upon the lawyers, and not the 22 year old. Casey is not holding Caylee hostage. She COULD release the remains to her parents. But her lawyer has motioned IN COURT that they need the prosecution's info.

Please, someone tell me who, outside of her lawyers, Casey has had contact with in order for her to understand she could go against these people. I don't believe she's being victimized necessarily. I just think, in isolation, she is being limited in terms of what's going on "outside."

"Casey, sign this document that gives us a chance to get a second autopsy. It's the best thing we can do right now for your case." "Casey, here's the release form for the ME to give the remains to the funeral home. We can't have a funeral just yet because we can't have the autopsy until we get xyz...."

I'm just saying......as a 22 year old, and this particular 22 year old whose demonstrated personality seems to be driven by the people in her life, this particular 22 year old whose whole purpose in HER life has been to please the ones showing her concern, is doing what she's told because that's what she's been told to do.

I think we must be thinking of a different accused murderer, one who has never cared to please anyone except her own lying self.
 
  • #204
It gets harder and harder for me to keep my pie hole shut in this case.

The major players in this case are just plain "no good" IMO.

The rights of this innocent young child are being trampled on each and every day.

I believe, as some said months ago, we need a guardian ad litum in this case pronto.

This is a great moral injustice. IMO

Link to information regarding guardian ad litum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_guardian
 
  • #205
Do we know that the funeral director didn't do that for the benefit of the A's when they visited?

Fair enough. I'll concede with a modicum of grace.

No, we do not know that the Funeral Directors didn't undertake this kindness.

Could we also agree that we have not seen verification or validation from a mutually accepted and cited source that we know they A's even 'sat with the remains,' (i.e. Caylee,) at all?

^ That was my modicum of grace.
 
  • #206
Boy, I'd hate to know what everyone thinks about the fact that my husband's remains were in a plastic bag inside a plastic box for 7 months until I dispersed his ashes up in the mountains! Casey is being told that the defense believes a second autopsy MUST be done, and before that autopsy can be done, the defense MUST get the prosecutions' information.

Posturing by lawyers toward a 22 year old facing unimaginable legal issues seems to me directly set upon the lawyers, and not the 22 year old. Casey is not holding Caylee hostage. She COULD release the remains to her parents. But her lawyer has motioned IN COURT that they need the prosecution's info.

Please, someone tell me who, outside of her lawyers, Casey has had contact with in order for her to understand she could go against these people. I don't believe she's being victimized necessarily. I just think, in isolation, she is being limited in terms of what's going on "outside."

"Casey, sign this document that gives us a chance to get a second autopsy. It's the best thing we can do right now for your case." "Casey, here's the release form for the ME to give the remains to the funeral home. We can't have a funeral just yet because we can't have the autopsy until we get xyz...."

I'm just saying......as a 22 year old, and this particular 22 year old whose demonstrated personality seems to be driven by the people in her life, this particular 22 year old whose whole purpose in HER life has been to please the ones showing her concern, is doing what she's told because that's what she's been told to do.

Very well said debs.
No one seems to understand the A's CANNOT do anything about a funeral until the DEFENSE releases the remains, via Casey.
 
  • #207
They do not appoint Guardian Ad Litems for deceased children unless there are financial reasons to do so, imo.
 
  • #208
Question???What is going to keep the Defense team while doing the 2nd autopsy, taking photos of the remains and then selling them to the press??I feel certain that if they are he!! bent on selling photos of the remains that they will do it at all cost's..This case is making me sick anyone who would do such a low discpicible act should be disbarred..And I think the whole dang bnch of them needs to be buried under the jail
 
  • #209
Fair enough. I'll concede with a modicum of grace.

No, we do not know that the Funeral Directors didn't undertake this kindness.

Could we also agree that we have not seen verification or validation from a mutually accepted and cited source that we know they A's even 'sat with the remains,' (i.e. Caylee,) at all?

^ That was my modicum of grace.
I did say "reportedly". :P LOL
 
  • #210
Fair enough. I'll concede with a modicum of grace.

No, we do not know that the Funeral Directors didn't undertake this kindness.

Could we also agree that we have not seen verification or validation from a mutually accepted and cited source that we know they A's even 'sat with the remains,' (i.e. Caylee,) at all?

^ That was my modicum of grace.

I have no trouble believing that the A's went and spent time with their granddaughter's remains. I assumed they had before hearing it confirmed on NG. I think it's likely that the funeral director set them up in a private room, probably with a satin cover and maybe some flowers on the box, and gave them the time they needed to feel close to little Caylee.
 
  • #211
Since the defense wants to do a second examination of the remains in order to try to poke holes in the State's examination the body can not be buried. (Well, it could be, but then there would be an exhumation which would be even worse than her bones being stored in a cooler). The defense may be having trouble finding a forensic anthropologist that can dispute what the Universities teams have already done. Plus, it would be insane to do the examination if the "experts" from whatever field do not have all the information available to them prior to the exam. Since Baez has not yet received the photos and x-rays, as they are still arguing about them, the "experts" cannot begin to do their work.

The State only recently turned the remains over to the funeral home. None of this stuff happens quickly, no matter how hard one tries.

I don't know who started the "defense may try to sell the photos" story, but it seems that it comes from the SA. I think it is posturing on the State's part.

Drew P. stated that there were licensing fees paid amounting to 6 figures for photos and videos of Caylee. The media bought the rights from someone, we just do not know who. Although it is unseemly to think that anyone would sell their child's photos to the media, let's not forget that the media is making millions upon millions from the coverage of this case which includes showing the videos and photos. Should CNN, FOX, ABC, etc. make money from this tragedy but not the family? How is that fair?

I think that whatever monies have been made from the licensing fees are going towards KC's defense, the A's defense, LA's defense, to keep a roof over the family's head, pay bills and feed them.

I have picked up remains from a crematorium. The ashes were in a sealed plastic bag inside of a cardboard box. Unless you take a vessel to the funeral home or buy one from their selection, this is what you get. It wasn't creepy at all but was surprisingly heavy.

I sure hope they didn't leave the A's alone with the box. There is no telling what they might pull when no one is looking.
 
  • #212
Lol...can tell you are not a lawyer. That is not the test.

Did that pic have any value before she killed Caylee, or is she only profiting from it because she committed a crime? I doubt any tv stations would be paying them for licensing those pics if Caylee had not been the victim of homicide.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
This is the first family I have ever heard of where not one person has gainful employment yet they continue to live as though they are all gainfully employed. The murder of Caylee has taken the Anthony's from impending foreclosure, to staying at the Ritz!!
Yeah right they are not profiting from Caylee's murder! If you believe that I have some ocean front property in Arizona!
 
  • #213
Ya know what I pictured when i heard that 6 figures were made and gone to the defense (not proven but just saying)... Can you imagine CA hearing that.. If she didnt know.. I pictured Her throwing things and yelling etc.. ....I will be curious to see how all this plays out.. and hope we do get to hear where and to whom the money went if the pictures were sold.
 
  • #214
It must be a miracle that the A fam's lights stay on and the water keeps running in their house which hasn't been foreclosed upon...yet another miracle! I suppose those prayer vigils did some good after all.
 
  • #215
I dont get the hoopla - both of my parents stayed at the ME office for
weeks before they were released for cremation. We didnt get their
remains for a month . I picked them up immediately when the
funeral home called . Even then it was even more time before we went and scattered their ashes . Their deaths were devastating for us and there were more urgent tasks to attend to .
 
  • #216
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I think we must be thinking of a different accused murderer, one who has never cared to please anyone except her own lying self.

:clap::clap:
 
  • #217
I have no trouble believing that the A's went and spent time with their granddaughter's remains. I assumed they had before hearing it confirmed on NG. I think it's likely that the funeral director set them up in a private room, probably with a satin cover and maybe some flowers on the box, and gave them the time they needed to feel close to little Caylee.

CW, I do have the capacity, and even some leanings to agree with you on this.

And this is also my biggest point of contention with debate and discussion about this case.

(In fairness, I'll step right up here and put my heart on my sleeve and admit that I want to smack myself in the head for even saying 'this case' versus 'Justice for Caylee.' So walk into this clearly knowing that I'm logical, but I am more emotionally invested, thus, my responses struggle to balance both.)

Here is my respectful debate rebuttal:

1. It is OK to assume what fits each person's belief when they need to and are comforted by that.
2. It is further accepted and respected to politely request validation and verification links for fact vs. rumour.
3. I get confused when some assumptions are readily accepted without verification & validation, as suits.

(Yes, yes, I recognize opinion from fact.)

I respect all posters - those who strive for facts/links/validation, and those who read all of the above and also rely upon their intuition.

But, admittedly, I cross over into a gray area when I am faced with inconsistency. I don't 'clue in' well at all with, "I have no trouble believing X about the A's," when all other posts and "I have no trouble believing..." (especially in regards to an SA motion,) needs to be validated and verified umpteen times, by sources that obviously aren't mutually agreed upon as accepted citations.

In short, I don't really have a great deal of difficulty stretching my brain out this far on this one either. BUT, I feel a bit crummy because I need to defend every other brain stretch I have with citations we might not agree upon.

I feel as if it is OK and agreeable to have a supposition that is favorable to the A's without a cited source. But, it is not worthy of posting a supposition/thought/opinion otherwise? It's ok to believe in something decent about these people, but should I question them, I'd best also come up with an unquestionable source, which might still be questioned regardless?
 
  • #218
After thinking about this, it just doesn't make much sense. The ME for the defense can take pictures and xrays. (If they can find a place to do this) If they were going to sell something, nothing would stop them from selling those if there goal is to profit on photos. The defense team will need to review the the first pictures if they are going to be used in court. It sounds like just a big pi&&&ng contest! Are they trying to say the defense does not have their clients best interest in mind? Are they trying to prove the defense Attorney is incompetent? This would not be good for the procecution.

sometimer, I don't know if anyone in the Anthony family would sell them but I did hear, on one of the several programs that covered it tonight, that pics from the original autopsy would be more valuable than those taken by the defense team. I don't know why; no explanation was given.

But I think, and maybe this observation has already been addressed, that in this package of photos, etc, that the original pictures of the scene on Suburban Drive are included. Those pictures (which the defense could not replicate), I think, would be the ones that would be valuable for resale purposes. I bet these are included and the ones that the SA is most concerned about.
 
  • #219
Sick as the A's selling these photos sounds, I think whomever would want to buy them is perhaps more sick.
 
  • #220
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
This is the first family I have ever heard of where not one person has gainful employment yet they continue to live as though they are all gainfully employed. The murder of Caylee has taken the Anthony's from impending foreclosure, to staying at the Ritz!!
Yeah right they are not profiting from Caylee's murder! If you believe that I have some ocean front property in Arizona!

:applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:
 

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