S.A. Concerned Defense will Sell Pics of Caylee's Remains

[BonKai]

First of all, we have no proof or evidence that the As have sold or licensed any material and secondly, any videotapes or photographs taken by them, belongs to them, the copyright belongs to them.

I understand that, but the argument NOW is in regards to photos/x-rays of Caylee's remains. The photos/x-rays belong to the ME's office. The remains belong to the defendant - unless KC signed the remains over to her parents.

 

[SuziQ]

I guess they could take pictures of her skeleton and sell that, but they don't have pictures of her body as it was found in the woods. Those are the photo's that would bring in the bucks and the defense can only get those from the SA's office.

Added: I can imagine as sick as it is that those photo's of Caylee's dead body in the woods could bring in 7 figures.

This is the gist of it right there.

 

[Lyn1001]

Okay, this is a really long thread and I can't remember everything I wanted to quote, so I'm just going to post my opinions.

IIRC, SA is asking that the pictures not be reproduced or sold. Do you think this has anything to do with the comment they made after Dr. Lee showed pictures on NG (I think that was the show)?

It could also be that they don't want pictures "leaked" and then have the defense state that SA leaked the photos and compromised the case. Yes, defense can take their own pictures, but then they wouldn't be able to claim that SA let them out. Make sense? Just a possible thought....

Lastly, I agree with other posters who have mentioned it's not about the A's needing time to grieve, it's about the fact most people do not have the luxury to grieve for this long. Some jobs will allow an extended leave of absence, but even then it's not at full pay. I'm not sure if someone has a Long Term Disability plan if they would be able to use that at this time, but again, it's not at full pay. While it would be nice to have ample time to grieve, society does not allow it. Heck, I was in grad school when my dad passed. It was two days before my final exam, and he'd been in the hospital for close to a month and in Hospice for a week. My exam was scheduled for Monday. The viewing was Tuesday, the funeral Wednesday. I asked my professor if I could take the exam at a later date. She let me take it Friday. And this was a counseling program!!

 

[Broderick]

Someone is making money. The A fam denies it is them, but it was reported last night a fee of six figures was paid from licensing such videos as the one seen of Caylee swimming in the pool with Cindy etc. It was also reported that they are tracking down the proof it went to Baez or someone associated with the defense as it is the story they are hearing. Should be interesting when they get to the bottom of that one, eh?

While it may not be "evidence" they possibly have already sold...the SA's Office wants to make certain it does NOT happen.

I ask why does Conway, George and Cindy's lawyer, have to meet with the prosecution regarding the release of the x-rays and pictures from the autopsy. He met with the prosecution reportedly for that reason. Casey is not his client, nor is Caylee for that matter. This is between the defense team for Casey and the prosecution. Something stinks and I am smelling the immunity request is so that proceeds continue to roll in, but the prosecution is wise to the ploy now. I see no other reason for Conway to step in and meet with them regarding the pictures and x-rays meanwhile he begs for immunity.

 

[MissDiva]

I respectfully disagree with you. The Anthony's have been devastated by the loss of their granddaughter. She was obviously a very loved child. If the A's had sold rights to particular pictures and video prior to the discovery of her remains, it is my opinion that the money received was used towards the private investigators and other means they used to search for little Caylee. I would bet my life on the fact that both Cindy and George would give their own lives to have Caylee back if they could. They are victims of their own love they had for their child... a child that lied and manipulated them and ultimately killed their granddaughter.

I stopped reading after this one, but I agree completely.

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

Bolded by me

But the A's are NOT the defense! The motion is directed at the defense - Baez and his team. What the A's do (or don't do) is not the responsibility of the defense and vice versa.

If you read the motion, you will see that they are specifically trying to have the As excluded from seeing/being provided with the pics....I quoted from the Motion in a post above where they say they want it limited to co-counsel and the experts.

The Motion seeks to have all viewing done in the presence of JB...so, yes, it would become his responsibility...it would put him in a position of having to explain if the pics were sold.

 

[tehcloser]

I ask why does Conway, George and Cindy's lawyer, have to meet with the prosecution regarding the release of the x-rays and pictures from the autopsy. He met with the prosecution reportedly for that reason. Casey is not his client, nor is Caylee for that matter. This is between the defense team for Casey and the prosecution. Something stinks and I am smelling the immunity request is so that proceeds continue to roll in, but the prosecution is wise to the ploy now. I see no other reason for Conway to step in and meet with them regarding the pictures and x-rays meanwhile he begs for immunity.

Thank-you for saying that so well. I saw that he had had a meeting and boy are you right somethings is smellingggggggggggg. There is something afoot for sure.

 

[Manny]

The SA can't legally stop the A's from selling the pictures if they got ahold of them. But the SA can ask a judge to stop them from going any further than JB's team. By doing that preventing the A's from selling the pictures.

I think this "selling idea came from that reporter on Nancy Grace." My impression was the SA wanted to be sure that no photo's were faxed or mailed to anyone (like his team of experts) for fear they would be intercepted and sold. I didn't get the impression anyone was accusing JB of selling pictures to anyone. They were talking(on NG) about security at the funeral home. Seems there is none and that triggered the SA to jump on the band wagon. Why are they not taking precautions at the funeral home? They should be, it seems that money hungry people are everywhere in FLA.
JMHO

ETA: Perhaps the family is worried about someone stealing photo's and spreading them all over the inquirer.. I know I would be, maybe that is why the family lawyer was involved. Sounds logical to me.

 

[capps]

This is one thing I don't even think the A fam would do. Casey, however, is a different story.

I agree with you SS,it's one thing showing cute Caylee while she was alive,but I doubt that the A's could be so callous as to want pics shown after death. They truly loved her.

 

[Broderick]

So...was Conway there about the photos or immunity??

I'm confusing myself. My disdain for the A clan (excluding Caylee) is turning me into a moonbat. spit

That is what I am seeing when reading. Conway met with the prosecution regarding the xrays and photographs from the autopsy, meanwhile I can infer that he must have immunity to allow any proceeds to continue rolling in from licensing sales, etc. Without immunity, if the state presses charges, the Anthonys proceeds will be put in trust and a lien enacted.

 

[DotsEyes]

I am not understanding the State's position here. Sure, the SA does not want the photosto show up on the cover of NE, but I am not quite getting how THINKING that the defense may sell the photos and OBSTRUCTING the defense by trying to place ridiculous restrictions on what Baez can and can not do with the photos, serves this purpose. There is always the risk that someone will steal photos and sell them, we see this happen all the time, but this risk is not sufficient to then limit the defendant's rights to investigate the state's evidence - even if it means the evidence must be sent out of state.

I must have missed something here. This is plain nutty and the Judge can not rule in favor of the State on this one. KC is entitlted to the photos without restriction and it appears that she can legally sell photos and videos of Caylee until her conviction according to FL law. Maybe someone can help me understand why the State believes it can determine the course of the defense.

 

[Bev]

No, the argument now is whether the state has the right to deny or restrict public records and evidence to the defense or dictate or demand whom the defense can name as expert witnesses in the defense of the client.

This is a game, Dotseyes. This is payback for the accusations that Baez made that leaks are coming from the prosecution. This kind of thing goes on all the time.

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

There is absolutely zero evidence that the defense has sold or in any way profited from evidence in this case. If there was evidence it would have been cited in the motion - it wasn't. The state certainly is refusing to turn over the evidence - the state doesn't have the right to ask for these kinds of restrictions on this kind of evidence - it is limiting the defense in providing the best defense for the client.

It doesn't matter in the least who the As are or are not selling or leasing or licensing images to - that is their right as owners of the materials. The As are not the defendent in this case, KC is.

added text - the family has a right to the autopsy findings, in fact everyone in the state of Florida has the rights to the autopsy findings, in Florida autopsies are a matter of public record. The Dale Earnhardt ruling doesn't apply to every autopsy record, it applies only to Dale Earnhardt's autopsy record. The only precedent it sets is that the family of the deceased has the right to apply to the courts for special remedy - in this case sealing the Earnhardt autopsy record.

Link/citation please? If that's the case, I'm sure the Judge will throw it out quickly tomorrow. Somehow I doubt that will happen.

I find it really sad that people like you think it would be acceptable for them to profit from the pics, and am so glad the SA is stepping in trying to stop this happening.

 

[Broderick]

Has the defense decided NOT to do their own autopsy?? They will rely on x-rays and photos of the remains for their experts to refute Dr. G's findings?? If so, why would there be a hold up for G&C giving Caylee a proper burial?? Conway claims that the A's can't do a proper burial because the defense is being asked not to sell the images??

Makes no sense....I think Conway met with prosecuters concerning immunity for G&C.

That is not what is being reported. He met with prosecutors regarding the photos and x-rays. That is some transparent skulduggery imo.

 

[Broderick]

I stopped reading after this one, but I agree completely.

The private investigators are on record saying they were working pro-bono iirc.

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

That was my question as well. See below.

I read yours after I posted mine...great minds think alike...lol.

 

[impatientredhead]

Link/citation please? If that's the case, I'm sure the Judge will throw it out quickly tomorrow. Somehow I doubt that will happen.

I find it really sad that people like you think it would be acceptable for them to profit from the pics, and am so glad the SA is stepping in trying to stop this happening.

I personally don't think they should be sold to anyone, by anyone. I do think the state is overstepping by saying that only counsel and co counsel can view them. That limits Casey's defense and could open things to an appeal. What is Baez going to do with an xray he can't show anyone? He doesn't know how to read one, he has no credentials in that area whatsoever. The state's evidence should be sealable where Baez gets it, appropriate experts can view it under a confidentiality agreeement, and the their publishing or selling the data is strictly prohibited.

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

The private investigators are on record saying they were working pro-bono iirc.

How very generous of them. And what great work they've done...lol. I wonder if the As were smart enough to sign them up to non-disclosure agreements. If not, I smell some more books on the way.

 

[BonKai]

I read yours after I posted mine...great minds think alike...lol.

Yep!

I really hope our question is brought up at the Motion Hearing.

 

[Macushla]

There is absolutely zero evidence that the defense has sold or in any way profited from evidence in this case. If there was evidence it would have been cited in the motion - it wasn't. The state certainly is refusing to turn over the evidence - the state doesn't have the right to ask for these kinds of restrictions on this kind of evidence - it is limiting the defense in providing the best defense for the client.

It doesn't matter in the least who the As are or are not selling or leasing or licensing images to - that is their right as owners of the materials. The As are not the defendent in this case, KC is.

added text - the family has a right to the autopsy findings, in fact everyone in the state of Florida has the rights to the autopsy findings, in Florida autopsies are a matter of public record. The Dale Earnhardt ruling doesn't apply to every autopsy record, it applies only to Dale Earnhardt's autopsy record. The only precedent it sets is that the family of the deceased has the right to apply to the courts for special remedy - in this case sealing the Earnhardt autopsy record.

Bev: that is not what the law that was enacted in 2001 as a result of the Earnhardt autopsy says. Myunderstanding was that autopsy photos are exempt from the freedom of info act unless the next of kin agrees to to the release

Here is one article I found on this law:

http://www.rcfp.org/newsitems/index.php?i=3188