Australia Samantha Murphy, 51, last seen leaving her property to go for a run in the Canadian State Forest, Ballarat 100km NW of Melbourne, 4 Feb 2024 #7

[Dr Samoht]

I’m going for a bike, a helmet and a go pro initially. Then went home to get the car.

Mountain bike .. or motor bike ?

 

[Rocket333]

That just doesn’t seem likely to me. I don’t think you’d be at an 80th birthday party followed up by a “bender” til 4am if you planned a murder at 8am. Unlikely to even be awake at 8am as a 22 year old. If it’s true he had a steady M-F job, long term girl friend, stable family life then more likely IMO to be an accidental hit in car and whatever transpired afterwards in panic, which especially makes sense if he did have a drunk/drug driving charge pending. JMO.

Can we park “the bender”? That footage of “the bender” is reported to be from earlier in the year not the night prior to the incident.

Police described it as an intentional attack and it resulted in a murder charge. That holds way more gravity than an accident. This isn’t a hit & panic situation.

 

[Rocket333]

Mountain bike .. or motor bike ?

Dirt bike

 

[Warshawski]

And yet,
28 Feb they still were busy with Inland Motor Business.

4 March
They started reviewing mobile phone tower data to identify the movements of people

and... Surprise!... Voilà!...

2 days later (6 March) the alleged perp was arrested!

Agreed Dotta, but there was quite a large team on this, certainly would’ve been numerous areas of investigation going on simultaneously imo.

 

[Springstreet77]

Can we park “the bender”? That footage of “the bender” is reported to be from earlier in the year not the night prior to the incident.

Police described it as an intentional attack and it resulted in a murder charge. That holds way more gravity than an accident. This isn’t a hit & panic situation.

Police downgrade charges reasonably often. We will see.

 

[SouthAussie]

We have a high profile case here in my state where the husband (allegedly) killed his wife with his vehicle. His wife was outside the vehicle, they could have been arguing (we don't know any details yet) and she was dragged by his 4WD ute and she may have left dents in the bonnet of his ute.

The charges are:
- causing death by dangerous driving
- driving without due care
- endangering life.

(Melissa Hoskins case)

PS is charged with murder.

 

[Warshawski]

Would an electrician be the person who would maintain phone towers?

They are powered by electricity imo.

 

[iamshadow21]

Would an electrician be the person who would maintain phone towers?

There's a big difference between someone who's a 'tradie' electrician and the people who maintain phone towers, IMO.

As far as I know, phone towers are maintained by people with specialist qualifications.

MOO

 

[Dotta]

Didn't the alleged perp's school friend praise him as an excellent sportsman of rowing?

It might mean the knowledge of local lakes/dams/ ponds, etc, no?
Good knowledge

JMO

 

[Warshawski]

I'd just like to make a note on this, regarding PS's behavior post alleged incident - multiple (hearsay) reports from local Ballarat-ians have suggested PS returned to work as normal, on the Monday, and following weeks after, and he seemed no different than usual. I cannot vouch for those reports, however, I can personally vouch for one account, a direct family member of mine, is a school teacher at the same school PS's mother was presently working as a relief teacher. He was present at the school, 2 weeks after the alleged incident, undertaking some electrical work for the school. This suggested to me that he was "business as usual" as they say.

Thank you . I’m lost ..

 

[louisepiglet]

I find it interesting how he says that their intelligence tells them that there’s no risk to anyone else. Like they knew the attack was targeted and SM was the intended victim. This was just prior to the arrest so the police of course knew a helluva lot by this stage. Makes you wonder if Sam was the intended victim after all.

Or Samantha was fatally injured in an accidental collision between her and a motor vehicle.The fact that PS didn't call for help could lead to it being called a deliberate act.

 

[Dr Samoht]

Didn't the alleged perp's school friend praise him as an excellent sportsman of rowing?

It might mean the knowledge of local lakes/dams/ ponds, etc, no?
Good knowledge

JMO

Ballarat rowers use the centrally located Lake Wendouree … it has an Olympic standard 2 Km diagonal rowing course … the lake has a 6 Km walking circumference path and is well patronised .
It’s unlikely aside from this lake his rowing activities taking him elsewhere locally .

 

[louisepiglet]

We have a high profile case here in my state where the husband (allegedly) killed his wife with his vehicle. His wife was outside the vehicle, they could have been arguing (we don't know any details yet) and she was dragged by his 4WD ute and she may have left dents in the bonnet of his ute.

The charges are:
- causing death by dangerous driving
- driving without due care
- endangering life.

(Melissa Hoskins case)

PS is charged with murder.

Didn't his wife jump in from of the car to try to stop him leaving though.

 

[Warshawski]

There's a big difference between someone who's a 'tradie' electrician and the people who maintain phone towers, IMO.

As far as I know, phone towers are maintained by people with specialist qualifications.

MOO

An ‘electrician’ does have specialist qualifications. Electricians will be but one group of a number of skilled & qualified people who work on the phone towers.
imo

 

[louisepiglet]

They are powered by electricity imo.

Sometimes an electrician is required to isolate the power so it is safe for the work to be carried out on the tower.

 

[Nikynoo]

We have a high profile case here in my state where the husband (allegedly) killed his wife with his vehicle. His wife was outside the vehicle, they could have been arguing (we don't know any details yet) and she was dragged by his 4WD ute and she may have left dents in the bonnet of his ute.

The charges are:
- causing death by dangerous driving
- driving without due care
- endangering life.

(Melissa Hoskins case)

PS is charged with murder.

IMO, the MH case is different. They have the victim and her version of events. Now, if MH statement included threats to kill before hand, then I could see that there would be a murder charge instead?

 

[SouthAussie]

Didn't his wife jump in from of the car to try to stop him leaving though.

No details are known yet. Everything is speculation. And Melissa is no longer here to tell her side of the story. So all we will ever know is his story and what the evidence shows.

imo

 

[Nikynoo]

No details are known yet. Everything is speculation. And Melissa is no longer here to tell her side of the story. So all we will ever know is his story and what the evidence shows.

imo

I didn't realise she was deceased!

 

[Deleted member 293720]

That just doesn’t seem likely to me. I don’t think you’d be at an 80th birthday party followed up by a “bender” til 4am if you planned a murder at 8am. Unlikely to even be awake at 8am as a 22 year old. If it’s true he had a steady M-F job, long term girl friend, stable family life then more likely IMO to be an accidental hit in car and whatever transpired afterwards in panic, which especially makes sense if he did have a drunk/drug driving charge pending. JMO.

Police believed the murder was "a deliberate act" and "not a hit-and-run".

We don't know for sure how effected he was, and we don't know for sure how long he was out for

I still believe he has watched Sam before and knew when she ran and where she ran to

If the accused took crystal methamphetamine, he could be awake for quite a while and be full of energy

The accused is facing murder charges and possible others charges, another possible reason he is not saying where she is

 

[SouthAussie]

I didn't realise she was deceased!

Yes, the paramedics got Melissa to the hospital, but she very soon died. I don't know if she was ever able to say what happened because she was (obviously) in a seriously bad condition and they were trying to save her life.