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I can only imagine that this is possibly their worst nightmare. Do you ever stop loving your children?
Australia Samantha Murphy, 51, last seen leaving her property to go for a run in the Canadian State Forest, Ballarat, 4 Feb 2024 *Arrest* #13
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It won't be only psych. TBI from a sports injury aka Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy Neuropathological Change (CTE-NC or CTE) requires CT scans, neuropsych, cognition testing. It's not something he can just claim to have and people will believe him.
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It's not a good excuse, if such a thing is used by the defence. As Trooper pointed out earlier, the courts frequently see through these types of excuses. Just means that the defence has got no real defence, they would be grasping at straws.
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I agree, the criminal courts are not, for eg, a panel evaluating for disability benefits.
The legal standard for an insanity defense is very high. I think it's usually the prosecution's own forensic psychologist who makes a diagnosis related to psychosis, and the person is not sent to trial, but sentenced to serve their time in a psychiatric institution, until they're cured.
If their mental health is so poor they can't help killing people, the solution isn't to find them not guilty and send them back out into the world.
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Feb 28, 2024 Police appeal for sightings of “something unusual such as a damaged vehicle or property”
Probable that Stephenson’s ute was damaged on Feb 4th?
Probable that the police had footage of his damaged ute leaving the bush and that this message was aimed at unsettling Stephenson and jolting the memory of those closest to him (family, work mates)?
Possible that Stephenson (who was now on their radar and under surveillance) attempted (like Greg Lynn) to modify his vehicle to hide the damage?
Possible that Sam witnessed the ute hitting something solid (eg a building, a tree, a tower etc) and this instigated their interaction?
What “damaged property” could they be referring to? Was physical evidence (ie shards of glass, bits of plastic, scraps of clothing material etc) found at the scene after all? What was also found at the dam?
Probable that Stephenson’s ute was damaged on Feb 4th?
Probable that the police had footage of his damaged ute leaving the bush and that this message was aimed at unsettling Stephenson and jolting the memory of those closest to him (family, work mates)?
Possible that Stephenson (who was now on their radar and under surveillance) attempted (like Greg Lynn) to modify his vehicle to hide the damage?
Possible that Sam witnessed the ute hitting something solid (eg a building, a tree, a tower etc) and this instigated their interaction?
What “damaged property” could they be referring to? Was physical evidence (ie shards of glass, bits of plastic, scraps of clothing material etc) found at the scene after all? What was also found at the dam?
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The seed was planted from the get-go by David Tamanika.
The mental health/impairment narrative implies diminished responsibility/culpability and a risk of a murder charge being reduced to manslaughter or less. I don’t think it has a chance but wouldn’t be surprised if it gets flogged because there’s nothing else.
“He wanted his client's name kept secret due to concerns about his mental health.”
www.abc.net.au
The seed was planted from the get-go by David Tamanika.
The mental health/impairment narrative implies diminished responsibility/culpability and a risk of a murder charge being reduced to manslaughter or less. I don’t think it has a chance but wouldn’t be surprised if it gets flogged because there’s nothing else.
“He wanted his client's name kept secret due to concerns about his mental health.”
Patrick Orren Stephenson named as Samantha Murphy's accused killer after suppression order ends
The man charged with murdering Victorian woman Samantha Murphy can be revealed as Patrick Orren Stephenson, after his lawyer dropped a bid to have the 22-year-old's name suppressed.
www.abc.net.au
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I know someone who has been participating in a world-wide study on depression and there is something like 600+ genes associated with depression, autism, adhd…so this is something for his defence to explore via blood tests and other bodily fluid samples. If PS has the associated genes then they might want to compare the number of people in the study to the number of people who are currently in remand accused of murder. And, this isn’t a psych evaluation, it is purely biologic. Interesting new frontiers opening up.
Just thinking, the prosecution might find it helpful too.
Just thinking, the prosecution might find it helpful too.
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At the end of the day we have no clue if PS has any mental health issues IMO
It could be argued that any person in remand charged with a horrendous crime, would be depressed with the situation they have found themselves in IMO
We do know he has / had D & A issues.
Depressed people do not go around allegedly murdering innocent women on a Sunday morning run IMO
It could be argued that any person in remand charged with a horrendous crime, would be depressed with the situation they have found themselves in IMO
We do know he has / had D & A issues.
Depressed people do not go around allegedly murdering innocent women on a Sunday morning run IMO
Yes I agree Dr S. We really have no idea how Samantha was killed. Was it a crossbow bolt or was she hit by a car? We don't know anything yet. There are so many known unknowns and probably a few unknown unknowns, at least for the general public.
We don't actually know what he was doing at Mt Clear at 8am on that Sunday morning... He was living at Scotsburn, down the track a bit...or how he got there, and left there. Some vehicle of some sort seems logical, but who knows? ...
The other factor in common Samantha Murphy had with Jill Meagher, and Eurydice Dixon, and Aiia was, these ladies, like Samantha were Doing Things Jill was walking home from a work party, Eurydice was walking home from performing at her gig in town, Aiia was on the tram home from a concert she'd attended. ALL NORMAL THINGS TO DO. Samantha , going for her normal training run in the cool of the morning, NORMAL THING TO DO.
Their murderers...on the other hand , were drifters, meanderers, wandering about looking for strife, concocting nonsense in their heads and seeking a target to enact their vicious fantasies out on... Jaymes Todd had been drearily riding back and forth on the Kensington line, Bayley was dawdling about Sydney road because his girlfriend kicked him out, Codey Hermman, what can one say, he didn't know where he was or what he was doing, apparently.
What was Stephenson doing hanging about the forest that Sunday morning so early? he ain't no runner, no marathoner... what was he doing there? All these killers tried to distance themselves from their act, ...they knew what they were doing .
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Basing mine on what’s stated and inferred in media posts as that’s all we have to go on.
Substance abuse is a theme.
Traffic offence is a theme.
Mental health is a theme.
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Stephenson's first court appearance
On Thursday, the court heard Stephenson, a tradesman, did not suffer from any drug problems or mental health conditions.
Cops make major move in Sam Murphy murder investigation
The man charged with the murder of Ballarat mother of three Samantha Murphy is the son of a former AFL footballer.
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The defence only needs to show it is possible that someone else could have been there.
They need to also prove (beyond reasonable doubt) that nobody else was there.
How can they do that? Just because no other phone pinged?
Maybe the other person didn't carry a phone.
They need to also prove (beyond reasonable doubt) that nobody else was there.
How can they do that? Just because no other phone pinged?
Maybe the other person didn't carry a phone.
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After nearly a year of sparse information, I have become certain the police have PS dead to rights based on digital data. And it will be more than a few tower pings. It’s already been thoroughly analyzed.
I’d say his spine, spleen, pelvis, ribs, head, drivers license, bank account and motorbike might beg to differ.Stephenson's first court appearance
On Thursday, the court heard Stephenson, a tradesman, did not suffer from any drug problems or mental health conditions.
Cops make major move in Sam Murphy murder investigation
The man charged with the murder of Ballarat mother of three Samantha Murphy is the son of a former AFL footballer.www.dailymail.co.uk
His inability to understand a police directive, that is, he was on a good behavior bond, in regard to driving offences and he went out and DID IT AGAIN. In any community, that's usually an early sign, a warning, that this person is not dealing with a full deck. There is a reason fines and punishments are accumulative, it's to drive home the message, and it went right over Stephenson's head, either because he could not understand it, or would not. Choice , or compulsion. ?
He not only went out and drove offensively , which he was on a bond for, the second time, apparently, he upped himself to drunk and speeding and offensive driving......... mad, or bad? .. tell it to the judge.....
I think VICPOL have audio and visual something that nails him, ... without a body, VICPOL has given a lot of information, stuff that has precision in it, not the usual stuff when a stranger murders a stranger, ....
This is not quite true.. his defence will have to show that their man was no where near the forest that day. That all the tech stuff is voodoo and mumbojumbo woo woo woke nonsense that is made up in someone's back shed. If they can do that, your boy will walk it , but if not..........
I was thinking along the very same lines Scoob. Also, Stephenson was probably a casual drug user and not an addict.Stephenson's first court appearance
On Thursday, the court heard Stephenson, a tradesman, did not suffer from any drug problems or mental health conditions.
Cops make major move in Sam Murphy murder investigation
The man charged with the murder of Ballarat mother of three Samantha Murphy is the son of a former AFL footballer.
“Mr Tamanika had previously maintained the suppression was intended to protect Mr Stephenson's mental state, but also told the court his client had no mental health or drug issues.”
“His lawyer David Tamanika told the court Mr Stephenson, a tradie, had no mental health or drug issues.”
UNMASKED: The early years of accused Murphy killer
Patrick Stephenson has been charged with the murder of Ballarat mum Samantha Murphy. Here’s what we know about the 22-year-old.
thenightly.com.au
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