Australia Samantha Murphy, 51, last seen leaving her property to go for a run in the Canadian State Forest, Ballarat, 4 Feb 2024 *Arrest* #13

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Do we actually know for certain 100% that it really was Samantha's phone that was found? We seem to think that the police jubilation upon finding it may have been an act - so how do we know that the whole thing wasn't an act?
I guess police are under no obligation to tell the public anything. When they do, it is probably a tactic or in the public's best interest to know.
 
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I would think that he must have really panicked at some point - either immediately, or soon after. I wonder how long it lasted. Maybe he still is panicking (I sure would be.) It seems very likely that in his panic he called someone to come and help. But maybe just something like "Hey mate, can I come and borrow your truck?" I also wonder if he made any aborted calls, eg to his father. I don't think we have his phone, do we?
 
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I would think that he must have really panicked at some point - either immediately, or soon after. I wonder how long it lasted. Maybe he still is panicking (I sure would be.) It seems very likely that in his panic he called someone to come and help. But maybe just something like "Hey mate, can I come and borrow your truck?" I also wonder if he made any aborted calls, eg to his father. I don't think we have his phone, do we?
It's hard to imagine how someone in their early 20's, who some believe was still in a drunken drug fuelled stupor after a big night out, could think so clearly as to not leave an obvious trail for police to follow.
Anyone like the mate with a truck would be called an accomplice knowing now the accused may have used it to move a body.
Far worse if the scenario was hey mate I've got a body that I want you to hide and get the mate to do it.
Or even worse than that would be hey mate I've got another body for you to hide.
Anyone who knows exactly what happened I think should be called an accomplice and it's that person or people I believe the police are trying to flush out.
Police would know by now from what the accused has said or shown them if someone else was involved.
That's where I think a reward would come in handy if police can't work it out themselves and believe the accused had assistance.
It's now been 18 months since Samantha disappeared and if more than one person was involved then they should be jailed and that should be everyone's opinion.
 
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It's hard to imagine how someone in their early 20's, who some believe was still in a drunken drug fuelled stupor after a big night out, could think so clearly as to not leave an obvious trail for police to follow.
Anyone like the mate with a truck would be called an accomplice knowing now the accused may have used it to move a body.
Far worse if the scenario was hey mate I've got a body that I want you to hide and get the mate to do it.
Or even worse than that would be hey mate I've got another body for you to hide.
Anyone who knows exactly what happened I think should be called an accomplice and it's that person or people I believe the police are trying to flush out.
Police would know by now from what the accused has said or shown them if someone else was involved.
That's where I think a reward would come in handy if police can't work it out themselves and believe the accused had assistance.
It's now been 18 months since Samantha disappeared and if more than one person was involved then they should be jailed and that should be everyone's opinion.
MOO, but I have always believed he allegedly did this on his own. Even in a drug/alcohol infused state, after a major event like a death, it can instantly 'sober' up anyone.
 
  • #846
MOO, but I have always believed he allegedly did this on his own. Even in a drug/alcohol infused state, after a major event like a death, it can instantly 'sober' up anyone.

Besides,
this terrain is like a backyard to him.
He surely knows all places to hide a body without leaving a trace.
Not to mention abandoned hidden mine shafts.
There was also fire in the vicinity of the attack, no? :oops:

I honestly lost hope poor Samantha will ever be found :(
This land is too vast and the nature is wild.

JMO
 
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Besides,
this terrain is like a backyard to him.
He surely knows all places to hide a body without leaving a trace.
Not to mention abandoned hidden mine shafts.
There was also fire in the vicinity of the attack, no? :oops:

I honestly lost hope poor Samantha will ever be found :(
This land is too vast and the nature is wild.

JMO
I think the hiding places would need to be close to a track because bodies are very difficult to carry a long distance.
The last pings and the time he got home would indicate how far he could have driven which would narrow the search area down.
I think he would have sobered up all right but I can't see him being smart enough not to have made a mistake.
Why would he need to be taken twice to the search area. I believe it was because the body was moved by someone else and he took the police first to where Samantha died and then he took the police to another place where he thought the body would be and I'm probably the only one who thinks that.
I believe the police should have waited longer than a month before arresting the accused and it would have given more hope of locating Samantha.
Police think they have enough evidence to have him found guilty of murder but I believe finding Samantha is just about as equally important.
 

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