Found Deceased SC - Brittanee Drexel, 17, Myrtle Beach, 25 April 2009 - #16

[reedus23]

Meant to say, if I missed one I apologize, but I've been trying to thank everyone's post. We may agree. We may disagree. We may be rehashing old stuff. We may think of new stuff. But I truly believe if it isn't discussed, there is no media coverage, there is no pressure on LE to get the answers. So I appreciate everyone's patience with my long and rambling posts.

 

[margarita25]

Just bringing forward this article from May.


Weekend search planned for Brittanee Drexel; last seen five years ago in Myrtle Beach
BY TONYA ROOT
[email protected]May 9, 2014
http://www.thestate.com/2014/05/09/3436724/weekend-search-planned-for-brittanee.html

"Brittanee Drexel was 17 when she was last seen on April 25, 2009, leaving the Blue Water Hotel on Ocean Boulevard in Myrtle Beach."

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"Police and searchers have focused on the area where Georgetown and Charleston counties meet after Drexel’s cellphone gave off its last known signal on April 26, 2009."

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Also from this May 2014 article:

"In August 2011, state and local police searched a room at the Sunset Lodge on U.S. 17 near the Georgetown County Airport where someone identified as a person of interest had stayed. Police officials declined to comment on findings in that hotel room, and no new information has been released since that search."

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:bump:

http://answersforbrittaneedrexel.blogspot.com/

 

[reedus23]

It absolutely kills me that 5 minutes, less than 500 feet, is the difference between having answers and not.

 

[TedMac]

RSBM - As a former LE Officer, first thanks for serving your community. I am curious to hear your thoughts/theories. Do you think PB was actively involved? What motive/reason would PB have had? If not PB, any other theories?

Being a former LE, I'm curious about your take on everything else seemingly pointing south and how that could play into PB or the others being involved. Pings went south. Searches have primarily been south. POI's that LE reference have all been south. I have a hard time fitting PB or any of the others into the picture when LE, who has a ton more info than us, seems to be pointing away from them.

I have been following the Heather Elvis case mostly since last December, so I am sure I have missed a great deal on this case.

I don't think PB killed her or any of the "Rochester Group." But, I can't help but think that he knows what may have happened to her or at least has a strong idea of what may have happened. My theory (and it is just my theory) is she was abducted by someone that may have been stalking her. A random "drive by and grab" just doesn't fit here with all the tourist traffic on the street. It may have been a local lurking in the parking lot of the motel or a business and spotted her go in and come out of the motel.

It may tie into the Club Kryptonite excursion. When she went to the club, she may have attracted some unwanted attention. Someone, possibly PB may have introduced her to the person or the person may have seen her with PB and asked him her name, where she was staying, etc. Maybe that person talked with her at the club or even someone that may have seen her on the beach and made conversation with her. Then he drove by when she was walking and seeing a familiar face, she willingly got into the car. That may explain PB's reluctance to tell everything he knows.

With the pings of her cell phone going south, I can't help but believe that this is a local or someone that is familiar with the Myrtle Beach area.

I believe that LE has a lot of information that they are not making known to the public and it could point in a completely different direction.

 

[VeryVeritas]

4:10 Red Sox game starts
8:15 BD seen on cam walking to Blue Water
8:31 Red Sox game ended
8:48 BD leaves PB's hotel
8:57 JG texts BD telling her to make the best of it
8:58 BD texts JG saying, "F" that, I'm packing and going to bed.
9:06 Text to BD asking if back from Myrtle Beach yet
9:15 JG text saying he's concerned
9:27 BD's phone pings near Surfside
9:53 BD's phone pings tower at 209 Firehouse St (Georgetown)
9:54 BD's phone pings the same tower
9:56 Text to BD asking where she is
9:57 Another text to BD asking where she is
10:00 JG text saying he will call her mom if he doesn't hear from her
11:00 PB and friends to a "college" party
11:58 BD's phone pings tower 332 (7 Mile Road?)
1:00 PB and friends return to Rochester
4:51 JH files missing persons report

I was trying to put my own timeline of known facts together. Does this look accurate? Anything need altering/removal/adding? TIA As an aside, and I'm sure this has been discussed before, and again correct me if I'm wrong, but if my math is right, BD had to have been taken somewhere within about 500 feet of that camera location. LE said it takes 15 minutes to make the walk from Blue Water to the camera location. The average human walks 3 miles/hour (5,280 feet/60 minutes or 88 feet/minute). She left Blue Water at 8:48 and sent the last text at 8:58. That accounts for 10 of those minutes. In 5 minutes, a person would walk 440 feet at the above rate. Working backwards, that means the abduction occurred within 440 feet of that camera location assuming pace and continuous walking. Probably spent time working out the math that's been done 1000 times already, but does that sound right?

I appreciate this, it's the sort of thing I find very useful. Somehow I thought there was a lot more texting going on than this. Not much to add to this, particularly after that 8:58 last text she made. So far I've seen nothing to change my suspicion that the perp was someone peripherally connected to the the girls that she was rooming with. What I would find extremely pointing to them would be the LACK of any calls to BD from them. My understanding was the girl wanting her shorts back was throwing a fit. Well if after say 15 minutes, an hour, etc... why wouldn't you call or text BD asking were the hell she was? If she were especially persistent before that and then it suddenly stopped... that would be a red flag to me. My understanding is that these girls changed rooms that night. Why? What time exactly?

I also agree roughly that she was 2/3 of the way back to her hotel. It should have been in visual range. The only way I could see her getting into a car voluntarily is if it contained someone she knew. Involuntarily doesn't quite make sense to me because of her phone being left on and staying with her. If she were "snatched and grabbed", it's inexplicable that her phone stays on traveling with the vehicle. One of the last things you would want is your location being tracked (as a perp). So why not just leave the phone behind, shut it off, remove battery, etc... To me this highly points to her being in a vehicle with someone that she knew. If PB or one of his crew followed her from PB's hotel, they would have been on camera. What about cameras at BD's hotel? I would be checking very carefully anyone leaving (especially one or more of those girls she was staying with) in the hour or so before her last text. Also there may be cameras that show visitors to the girls rooms. Are any of those visitors on cams leaving the hotel prior to 8:58? What about pinging those people's phone locations?

And hey this might be NSA kind of stuff, but the FBI should be able to do it too... What about listing all phone numbers to ping within a few minutes before hers and after hers as her phone traveled from last text location to point where it stopped pinging. How many phone numbers would be following the same route at the same pace? My guess would be a handful maybe 100 at most. That's a fairly short list of people to check on and cross check their association to BD's "friends" and further pings parallel with BD's earlier known locations. That list might be as short as 1 person.
But even if I just had a list of 100 people who's phones pinged that route from her last text to shutdown, it shouldn't be too time consuming to check those people out. The list could be whittled down by eliminating people who couldn't have done it... for example a couple in their late 80's driving to FL.
OR maybe a family with 4 kids in the car that day, etc...

I can't believe I'm the first person to think of identifying pairs of phone pings that follow a distinctive pattern. If so, the FBI needs to hire me.

Well then if there are no parallel pings, then no other phones on in the vehicle. That would point to someone either technologically impaired or someone who planned it that way(premeditated). I just have a feeling that if her phone were left on, she got into that vehicle voluntarily. And another phone pinging the same path with very close timings is more likely than someone without a phone.

 

[wvredhead]

I could buy into the idea none or her friends were culpable....if....a single one of them behaved in the least bit distressed at her disappearance. To date, none of them have. Instead, they've gone on as if she never existed at all. I'm of the thinking that, even if not directly responsible, they know something. Being interviewed via telephone is a joke on the investigator's part.

 

[Vinny]

I don't think the friends were involved directly but I'd like to think they have some information that could help. There are sometimes cases where people have information that they may not even realize is useful. All it could take is a few tiny pieces for the puzzle to start making sense.

 

[reedus23]

I have been following the Heather Elvis case mostly since last December, so I am sure I have missed a great deal on this case.

I don't think PB killed her or any of the "Rochester Group." But, I can't help but think that he knows what may have happened to her or at least has a strong idea of what may have happened. My theory (and it is just my theory) is she was abducted by someone that may have been stalking her. A random "drive by and grab" just doesn't fit here with all the tourist traffic on the street. It may have been a local lurking in the parking lot of the motel or a business and spotted her go in and come out of the motel.

It may tie into the Club Kryptonite excursion. When she went to the club, she may have attracted some unwanted attention. Someone, possibly PB may have introduced her to the person or the person may have seen her with PB and asked him her name, where she was staying, etc. Maybe that person talked with her at the club or even someone that may have seen her on the beach and made conversation with her. Then he drove by when she was walking and seeing a familiar face, she willingly got into the car. That may explain PB's reluctance to tell everything he knows.

With the pings of her cell phone going south, I can't help but believe that this is a local or someone that is familiar with the Myrtle Beach area.

I believe that LE has a lot of information that they are not making known to the public and it could point in a completely different direction.

Can't argue with any of that. I still do think a stranger abduction is a possibility. It would have been risky but almost all abductions are risky to some extent. There are a lot of parking spots with blind corners on Ocean Blvd. as you approach that Quality Inn. Some tree coverage. But what struck me was that a lot of the parking spots allow for quick exits. I can see a predator driving the area, just looking, maybe didn't even have a plan in place. Just driving, checking out the area. May have even seen Brittanee walking down to Blue Water. As he kept driving around, may have seen her walking back up the street by herself again and thought, damn, she's by herself again and drove up and parked in one of these lots/spaces. From there, it really wouldn't take much to incapacitate her and get her in a car/van/truck, especially if she was distracted with her texting and even easier if he had a weapon. Just kind of what I envision as for a stranger abduction.

 

[reedus23]

I appreciate this, it's the sort of thing I find very useful. Somehow I thought there was a lot more texting going on than this. Not much to add to this, particularly after that 8:58 last text she made. So far I've seen nothing to change my suspicion that the perp was someone peripherally connected to the the girls that she was rooming with. What I would find extremely pointing to them would be the LACK of any calls to BD from them. My understanding was the girl wanting her shorts back was throwing a fit. Well if after say 15 minutes, an hour, etc... why wouldn't you call or text BD asking were the hell she was? If she were especially persistent before that and then it suddenly stopped... that would be a red flag to me. My understanding is that these girls changed rooms that night. Why? What time exactly?

Please understand that these times/texts are only ones that are confirmed. There certainly seems to have been other texts/calls but I wasn't able to myself confirm when they were made. For example, texts/calls about the shorts. They certainly seem to have happened, I just don't know when. Other phone calls/texts may have occurred later as well so the girls may or may not have called/texted later wondering where she was. I either couldn't confirm it or couldn't determine a time for them. Would certainly add more if they can be established though. I also don't think they changed rooms that night. Think it was the next day.

Involuntarily doesn't quite make sense to me because of her phone being left on and staying with her.

A couple of thoughts on this. If the phone is left behind then there are signs of an obvious abduction being left at the scene. By taking everything, phone included, the perp is buying time before people put two and two together to figure out it was an abduction. In fact, many (LE included) wondered if it was a run away situation at first, buying the perp time. If the phone were found at the scene, that consideration/time would have disappeared. It seems most of the time, the phone or other stuff is just "dumped" later at a safer, harder to find place. Final thought, read the early threads here. Not many people here knew phones could be tracked back at the time. Lots of confusion about pings. And I'm going to bet the people here on WS are smarter than the perp.

What about pinging those people's phone locations?

I truly hope this was all done and we simply don't know. Again, if not done, LE should be held accountable for not doing it.

 

[reedus23]

I don't think the friends were involved directly but I'd like to think they have some information that could help. There are sometimes cases where people have information that they may not even realize is useful. All it could take is a few tiny pieces for the puzzle to start making sense.

I agree, I just don't hold out as much hope that the friends have the answers. They're a**ho*** and don't care about anyone except themselves. I guarantee you PB don't care about AL or JO and the opposite as well. PB only cares about PB. Unfortunately, the only things that I think they could add is how drunk and high they all got and how many times they had sex. My guess is they were so high and so drunk constantly that they would be horrible historians as well. They probably couldn't tell you what day was what. I would hope that LE has still gotten all the information they could from these kids because you're right, even something as simple as saying you saw a blue car driving the strip could be helpful.

 

[shadowdancer]

I haven't contributed to this thread before, but I have been following the case.

It seems clear to me that she got into a car with someone that she knew or was at least acquainted with. She was walking along, so they probably just pulled up, said hi, and offered to give her a ride to her destination.

What isn't in the slightest bit clear is who the person in the car was. It could have been anyone who she had met during her time there, or one of her friends.

 

[EGirl]

Whoever abducted her.

How do you know how far that they drove?

 

[justagirl247]

found this link and it is helping refresh my memory of the early events thought i might be able to help others as well http://cjaye57.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/brittanee-drexel-sold-into-sex-trade/

 

[Vinny]

How do you know how far that they drove?

We have an idea of how far based on the pings. They could have gone much farther for all we know though.

 

[EGirl]

We have an idea of how far based on the pings. They could have gone much farther for all we know though.

Ahhhh.. Thank you , Thank you!

I'm feeling a little 'blonde' now. :blushing:

 

[justagirl247]

i also found this as well which seems very strange to me

Update 07-06-09: Possible break in Brittanee Drexel search

News 10NBC has learned that there could be a break in the search for Chili missing teen Brittanee Drexel. Her mother, Dawn Drexel, told us Sunday that police in South Carolina, “Do have some leads they’re working on right now. But that’s all I can disclose.”

“I think we’re very close,” she said.


Update 07-09-09: S.C. Police say “no new leads” with Brittanee Drexel



Police in Myrtle Beach, S.C. say they have no new leads in the search for missing missing Chili teen Brittanee Drexel.

Responding to Drexel’s mother Dawn Drexel, Myrtle Beach Police Chief Warren Gall told News 10NBC, “I’m not sure what Mrs. Drexel is referring to, but while we are actively investigating the missing person status of her daughter, we have no new leads at this time.”

heres the link http://missingchild.wordpress.com/tag/peter-brozowitz/

 

[Mendara]

MO - This was a grab and run. The phone was tossed later when the perp could get to it. I am sure when he grabbed her he was able to get the phone put it aside and drive for a while until he could get rid of the phone. The fight she had with these girls was normal teenage stuff that happens daily and it is clouding the details of the case IMO. I hope she is still alive as we have seen with women being held captive, but I think she was taken by someone who had done this before and very near Myrtle Beach. MO

 

[reedus23]

found this link and it is helping refresh my memory of the early events thought i might be able to help others as well http://cjaye57.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/brittanee-drexel-sold-into-sex-trade/

Thanks for the link. Seems that must have been written relatively early on. Contains many things that are half accurate. For example, says Brittanee was last seen at her motel at 8:15. Of course we now know that she was seen on camera at 8:15 but it wasn't at her motel and it wasn't the last time she was seen. She was seen at least twice after that, on the cameras entering and leaving the Blue Water, not to mention being seen in the room by PB and guys. I'll keep my thoughts about PB selling Brittanee into the sex trade business to myself, suffice it to say that theory pops up in nearly every missing person's case, rightfully or wrongfully.

 

[ZooSleuth]

MO - This was a grab and run. The phone was tossed later when the perp could get to it. I am sure when he grabbed her he was able to get the phone put it aside and drive for a while until he could get rid of the phone. The fight she had with these girls was normal teenage stuff that happens daily and it is clouding the details of the case IMO. I hope she is still alive as we have seen with women being held captive, but I think she was taken by someone who had done this before and very near Myrtle Beach. MO

BBM. I definitely agree with you on that. IMO BD would have told her boyfriend if something worse than a fight over a pair of shorts happened.

 

[lonetraveler]

found this link and it is helping refresh my memory of the early events thought i might be able to help others as well http://cjaye57.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/brittanee-drexel-sold-into-sex-trade/

I found this statement(bolded) in the above article very strange.


"Hahn found all of Brittanee’s belongings still inside her hotel room, he also found Drexel’s clothes and liquor inside Broswick’s hotel room."