GUILTY SC - Christine Parcell 41, fatally stabbed by concert pianist, Greenville, 13 Oct 2021 *Arrest*

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Cathy Russon reposted

@PrettyLiesAlibi


The jury is looking around at each other and us after Zack said that Christina was sexually abusing her child.

@PrettyLiesAlibi


Zack Hughes AGAIN said Christina was sexually abusing her daughter. The solicitor literally YELLS and the jury is sent out.
 
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  • #423
2 minutes ago

'He's making a mockery of this courtroom'
Wilkins says he will not ask for a mistrial, but he wants Hughes' testimony cut off. "He's making a mockery of this courtroom."

The judge says he is going to take a break to decide what to do.

 
  • #424
This is nuts.

Why did ZH, armed with this alleged extensive and documented evidence of abuse, not contact the police instead of going to the home of a woman he had never met and brutally murdering her?
 
  • #425
Recess until 2:00 pm ET
 
  • #426
I have not been able to watch anything yet but took a quick look at Fox Carolina’s live blog…which doesn’t seemed biased like some others…and I am stunned that ZH and the defense have not been removed from the courtroom and held in contempt for ignoring the judge’s orders to not testify about the abuse allegations. Repeatedly.
I feared yesterday that this was going to happen. That ZH was purposely going to mention it to taint the jury and further toss this murder case down into the cesspool. He doesn’t mind doing this. He likes being a heroic martyr.
ZH, as much as I’ve read, has not offered one piece of real evidence that abuse by CP existed other than what he was told by Mello.
I’m hoping most of this outrage is happening without the jury being present, but ZH already said it in front of the jury.
ZH murdered CP because he was under the impression she was abusing her daughter. He decided this was true. Vigilante justice.
He at least testified Mello encouraged him to kill her. I hope they are arresting him as we speak.
This case and this trial is so messed up I’m not so sure I care anymore.
 
  • #427
There are always other more logical options than to choose murder as an option; so maybe that's our answer. moo
 
  • #428
While I understand the prosecution's argument that allowing the CSAM into the trial could nullify the jury (prejudice them against the victim and thereby 'excuse' the defendant for what he did), I tend to think a better tactic would have been to:
  • freely allow this information into the trial,
  • show that the defendant had clear motive in his own mind to commit the crime,
  • admit that the victim is an unsympathetic one, BUT
  • argue that vigilante justice isn't tolerated by the law, and that if the defendant believed the child was in danger and needed saving, there were other avenues he could have taken (i.e. go to law enforcement) other than murder.
By the prosecution trying to keep this info from the jury (which has obviously not been successful), I think this actually increases the chances that the jury will turn on the prosecution.
 
  • #429
This is nuts.

Why did ZH, armed with this alleged extensive and documented evidence of abuse, not contact the police instead of going to the home of a woman he had never met and brutally murdering her?
IMO this is a mess. I left the world of classical music a looong time ago and this is the stuff of nightmares. It seems like ZH has nothing to lose so he's telling all even though he isn't supposed to give details.

I watced the testimony of CP's sister. She was very technical and obviously very intelligent and certainly aware of the defense trying to do their job by not saying "after your sister was murdered" but instead saying less descriptive words like died.

Did anyone else notice how her demeanor changed when the defense began their questions? She literally seemed to fill up with anger. By the end her hand was trembling when she would sip from a cup and she fled when released. That woman knows the whole story IMO.

Has anyone else made the connection between the rose petals and an actor whose head's shape resembles ZH?

This is a twisted tale of lots of wrongs and very few rights. Moo Moo.

That poor child.
 
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  • #431
Just my opinion, as we head into trial.
ZH’s own professional website had a lot of information on his background, but not from his childhood. I don’t know if that site has been taken down. All the background stuff written there was written by him.
From that, just my opinion, but he seemed to be a hero in search of something be a hero of.
Enter Mello, who I agree, is likely the center of it all. Mello gave ZH his epic to be the star of, his damsel(daughter) in distress to save. Now ZH is not only the hero in his own mind, but is happy to play the martyr too. He will go down with the ship before he reveals the entire story.
ZH is guilty, I have little doubt. It will be interesting to see if anything about his motive and/or inspiration and/or assistance comes out in trial.

Nothing but my opinion

This post has proved prescient...

IMO this is a mess. I left the world of classical music a looong time ago and this is the stuff of nightmares. It seems like ZH has nothing to lose so he's telling all even though he isn't supposed to give details.

I watced the testimony of CP's sister. She was very technical and obviously very intelligent and certainly aware of the defense trying to do their job by not saying "after your sister was murdered" but instead saying less descriptive words like died.

Did anyone else notice how her demeanor changed when the defense began their questions? She literally seemed to fill up with anger. By the end her hand was trembling when she would sip from a cup and she fled when released. That woman knows the whole story IMO.

Has anyone else made the connection between the rose petals and an actor whose head's shape resembles ZH?

This is a twisted tale of lots of wrongs and very few rights. Moo Moo.

That poor child.

I was reminded of American Beauty but who knows? This murder and the case it has sponsored already seem to have pulled from an airport thriller. In the worst way.

Hoping the judge can regain some control over the courtroom -- is there a chance today's antics will result in a mistrial?
 
  • #432
This post has proved prescient...



I was reminded of American Beauty but who knows? This murder and the case it has sponsored already seem to have pulled from an airport thriller. In the worst way.

Hoping the judge can regain some control over the courtroom -- is there a chance today's antics will result in a mistrial?
One of the lawyers said he wouldn't move for a mistrial. I don't recall the name or which side. Everything is moving so fast and crazy. MOO

And yes. American Beauty. Maybe ZH has a hero in that movie in some way. All my opinions.
 
  • #433
While I understand the prosecution's argument that allowing the CSAM into the trial could nullify the jury (prejudice them against the victim and thereby 'excuse' the defendant for what he did), I tend to think a better tactic would have been to:
  • freely allow this information into the trial,
  • show that the defendant had clear motive in his own mind to commit the crime,
  • admit that the victim is an unsympathetic one, BUT
  • argue that vigilante justice isn't tolerated by the law, and that if the defendant believed the child was in danger and needed saving, there were other avenues he could have taken (i.e. go to law enforcement) other than murder.
By the prosecution trying to keep this info from the jury (which has obviously not been successful), I think this actually increases the chances that the jury will turn on the prosecution.
And what about the daughter - her life has already been destroyed by the murder of her mother and now she will be forever associated with being used for CP - whether that is true or not.

I'm not sure which would be worse - if I was abused by my mother for CP and everyone knows, or I wasn't abused by my loving mother, but everyone believes it.

Honestly, the child is being shamelessly exploited in other ways, just as bad as CP.

Being exploited by the fight between her parents. Being exploited by the man who killed her mother, in his attempt to get away with murder. By the media and all the spectators with their sordid imaginations.

JMO
 
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  • #435
While I understand the prosecution's argument that allowing the CSAM into the trial could nullify the jury (prejudice them against the victim and thereby 'excuse' the defendant for what he did), I tend to think a better tactic would have been to:
  • freely allow this information into the trial,
  • show that the defendant had clear motive in his own mind to commit the crime,
  • admit that the victim is an unsympathetic one, BUT
  • argue that vigilante justice isn't tolerated by the law, and that if the defendant believed the child was in danger and needed saving, there were other avenues he could have taken (i.e. go to law enforcement) other than murder.
By the prosecution trying to keep this info from the jury (which has obviously not been successful), I think this actually increases the chances that the jury will turn on the prosecution.

I absolutely agree with this.
There are no upstanding citizens involved in this case. Everybody is swimming in the sewer together for one reason or another. To try and hold CP up above the mess was a losing plan.
 
  • #436
After a much needed lunch break, the courtroom is rapidly filling back up for the trial of Zachary Hughes.

A quick shoutout to SC circuit court judge Fant who has deftly presided over this wild trial and kept emotions in the courtroom to a minimum. Not an easy task given the complex legal issues and sensitive topics this trial has brought.

The courthouse staff has also been an absolute delight while we've been here.


I'll be posting afternoon updates in this thread.


Solicitor Walt Wilkins has asked the judge to read curative instructions to the jury regarding the testimony they heard from Hughes. Judge Fant has instructed Hughes once again not to reference the child sexual abuse allegations.


Hughes said he would do his best. When asked by the judge what that means, Hughes tells the judge, "Your honor, I put my hand on the Bible and made an oath to tell the whole truth. I'm a little confused.”


Moorman agrees to continue to limit his questions... but that was an odd exchange.


Defense attorney Moorman asked the judge for a brief recess so that he can instruct Hughes on what he is allowed to testify to…


 
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  • #438
@cathyrusson


Here is the moment #zacharyhughes told the jury he believed Christina Parcell was sexually abusing her daughter. The prosecutor SCREAMED objection. Jury was sent out. Off camera the state asked the judge to stop Hughes from continuing to testify. Judge is taking lunch break until 2pm ET.


What a drama king! He is presenting this like a Shakespearean actor.
He is sooo proud of himself.
Notice he only said he was convinced CP was abusing her daughter. You are not allowed to murder people because you are convinced they have done something wrong. You are not allowed to be judge and jury because you suspect something.
I am beyond the beyond with this.
Everyone needs to be tried for their crimes here. ZH for murder. Mello for conspiracy to commit murder. Post for CSAM. We'll find out if CP was participating and if so she will be properly reviled. But ZH needs to be in prison for taking the law into his own hands.
 
  • #439
a minute ago

Court is back in session. They are bringing in the jury.



a few seconds ago

The defense continues questioning Hughes.
 
  • #440
Can someone explain "The state cannot ask for a mistrial as jeopardy has already been attached."
I am not knowledgeable about the law at work here. So much seems to be going sideways
 

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