Found Deceased SC - Faye Marie Swetlik, 6, Cayce, 10 Feb 2020 #5

[Cloudydiamond]

I imagine there are clues. What those are and how many I hope will come to light if for no other reason than perhaps it might save another child’s life.

ITA with everyone on the autopsy, condition Faye’s body was found and where and what type of DNA was found.
I have never seen such an emotional presser honestly. The care they took with Faye, she might have been a fallen fellow officer. From the motorcade to the refusing to say CT’s name, to the measured way they simply said her COD was homicide by asphyxiation with no further details.
What’s scary is we all cover these cases and largely are finding out we mostly only have a few hours from the time a child goes missing. Obviously, no case is the same. But the vast majority of them are assaulted and murdered within a few short hours of being taken. And that’s scary. That means that unless you are there to prevent a kidnapping or are able to follow the perp and get LE involved from that point...there is nothing UNLESS in this case CT had been known to LE or they should have known about him somehow. And even then would they have been able to kick down his door and get there before Faye was killed?
I agree that shutting down the neighborhood (much like what happened with the Boston Bomber case) is what caught CT or caused him to do things that would get him caught. You hardly see a community shut down like that and it worked in the sense that the perp was from the community. Living right there.


I had a thought on perhaps where he might have kept her. I have no clue about the townhome/apartment other than pictures posted online but does anyone know if the back patio/porch or whatever has a storage closet in it. Most apartments I have ever loved including a town home had a storage closet on the balcony or patio itself where people would store equipment or luggage or cleaning items. And it can be locked with a key. Not sure if 602 Piccadilly had that kind of storage closet or not. But it seems like a place he might have kept her. Until he moved her.

Storage unit in these apartments. Just as I said.
401 Picadilly Square Unit 1, Cayce, SC 29033 - Apartment for Rent in Cayce, SC | Apartments.com

 

[SuhadAwad1]

I've been a bit busy the past few days and wasn't able to keep up the case updates. I just saw the cause of death and I am appalled.
Was there any mention of a motive for why this psychopath sicko did this?

 

[Cloudydiamond]

I've been a bit busy the past few days and wasn't able to keep up the case updates. I just saw the cause of death and I am appalled.
Was there any mention of a motive for why this psychopath sicko did this?

Other than him being a psychopath? Doubt it.

 

[PommyMommy]

I've been a bit busy the past few days and wasn't able to keep up the case updates. I just saw the cause of death and I am appalled.
Was there any mention of a motive for why this psychopath sicko did this?

Welcome to Websleuths, SuhadAwad1. I share in your appalled-ness.

No motive was provided by LE but in cases like this, it is usually revealed in the details of the autopsy which we are (understandably) not privy to. Additionally, the perpetrator is deceased so there will be no interrogation, no trial, etc. What we have is likely all we will ever know. MOO

 

[gitana1]

It is heartbreaking to think of the last moments of her life. nothing that we could offer could give Faye’s loved ones any type of peace on that. It makes me angry and sad.

I keep thinking of that case from Florida, Jessica Lunsford and the perp John Couey. How he kidnapped her from her home and kept her all weekend while raping her and forcing her to stay in a closet and finally put her in garbage bags and buried her alive. That’s an old case but he was staying with a neighbor and was basically right next door with the girl while LE was searching.

I can’t pretend I will ever understand the impulse to kidnap and murder (possibly sexually assault) a 6 year old child. Like many of you I am only interested in learning about ways to prevent this from happening. And that largely seems like a tall task given we can’t put non-offenders on some kind of watch list or minority report them.

I think about Polly Klass, also kidnapped from her own house. Nothing was done wrong there. Nothing was done wrong here. Children should be allowed to walk home from the bus. Play in their yard. Their neighborhood without being accosted by some sick predator.

I think it was extremely telling that LE refused to address CT by name and only released the results of his autopsy after the presser for Faye. They were and are torn up by this and I don’t doubt that they have the right person. They would not rest until they had her killer. It’s unfortunate that he took his own life in some ways in that we will not have a trial and he won’t have to face justice.

the DNA was beyond telling as was the meager description of how Faye was killed. No statement on the condition of her body. Just DNA linking her and CT found in CT home and other crime scene. I think that is very telling. I am not sure people who aren’t convinced he did it would actually be convinced if his DNA was found inside the poor girl or likely was found in. If taking a ten year old picture from high school leads people to be unsure about this person, I can’t sway that opinion.
I was here and am here for Justice for Faye and all victims. CT is not a victim. He is the sole perpetrator of Faye’s murder. As such, his reputation means nothing to me. Outside of possibly learning if he left clues and signals throughout the last ten plus years that society or family ignored that could have possibly prevented this.

Bravo.

 

[MemPat]

It is heartbreaking to think of the last moments of her life. nothing that we could offer could give Faye’s loved ones any type of peace on that. It makes me angry and sad.

I keep thinking of that case from Florida, Jessica Lunsford and the perp John Couey. How he kidnapped her from her home and kept her all weekend while raping her and forcing her to stay in a closet and finally put her in garbage bags and buried her alive. That’s an old case but he was staying with a neighbor and was basically right next door with the girl while LE was searching.

I can’t pretend I will ever understand the impulse to kidnap and murder (possibly sexually assault) a 6 year old child. Like many of you I am only interested in learning about ways to prevent this from happening. And that largely seems like a tall task given we can’t put non-offenders on some kind of watch list or minority report them.

I think about Polly Klass, also kidnapped from her own house. Nothing was done wrong there. Nothing was done wrong here. Children should be allowed to walk home from the bus. Play in their yard. Their neighborhood without being accosted by some sick predator.

I think it was extremely telling that LE refused to address CT by name and only released the results of his autopsy after the presser for Faye. They were and are torn up by this and I don’t doubt that they have the right person. They would not rest until they had her killer. It’s unfortunate that he took his own life in some ways in that we will not have a trial and he won’t have to face justice.

the DNA was beyond telling as was the meager description of how Faye was killed. No statement on the condition of her body. Just DNA linking her and CT found in CT home and other crime scene. I think that is very telling. I am not sure people who aren’t convinced he did it would actually be convinced if his DNA was found inside the poor girl or likely was found in. If taking a ten year old picture from high school leads people to be unsure about this person, I can’t sway that opinion.
I was here and am here for Justice for Faye and all victims. CT is not a victim. He is the sole perpetrator of Faye’s murder. As such, his reputation means nothing to me. Outside of possibly learning if he left clues and signals throughout the last ten plus years that society or family ignored that could have possibly prevented this.

Thank you for this thoughtful post, LittleBitty. So much heart and so much wisdom.

 

[kiki2020]

Storage unit in these apartments. Just as I said.
401 Picadilly Square Unit 1, Cayce, SC 29033 - Apartment for Rent in Cayce, SC | Apartments.com

Not having any LE background myself, that would be one of the first places I would have looked. So I really hope that was examined. I've never put a link here so I'm not sure if it will work, but this is the Storage space they are talking about. This is 201 Picadilly Square cayce sc, not his address of 602 picadilly square cayce sc, but based on Google Earth it looks like his apartment had the same type of storage space/workshop.

201 Picadilly Square Cayce SC Storage Space:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/201-Picadilly-Sq-Cayce-SC-29033/2124250201_zpid/?mmlb=g,11

Google Earth of CT's address:

Google Earth

 

[MizStery]

rumour

I remember something about this rumor but the mod’s quickly deleted the posts.

I believe the mod’s had to take time from their busy tasks and actually close the entire thread to clean it up.The mod’s posted a severe notice that per TOS Rules any and all rumors are “Not Allowed or Tolerated”



My Opinion

 

[Lillymac]

It is heartbreaking to think of the last moments of her life. nothing that we could offer could give Faye’s loved ones any type of peace on that. It makes me angry and sad.

I keep thinking of that case from Florida, Jessica Lunsford and the perp John Couey. How he kidnapped her from her home and kept her all weekend while raping her and forcing her to stay in a closet and finally put her in garbage bags and buried her alive. That’s an old case but he was staying with a neighbor and was basically right next door with the girl while LE was searching.

I can’t pretend I will ever understand the impulse to kidnap and murder (possibly sexually assault) a 6 year old child. Like many of you I am only interested in learning about ways to prevent this from happening. And that largely seems like a tall task given we can’t put non-offenders on some kind of watch list or minority report them.

I think about Polly Klass, also kidnapped from her own house. Nothing was done wrong there. Nothing was done wrong here. Children should be allowed to walk home from the bus. Play in their yard. Their neighborhood without being accosted by some sick predator.

I think it was extremely telling that LE refused to address CT by name and only released the results of his autopsy after the presser for Faye. They were and are torn up by this and I don’t doubt that they have the right person. They would not rest until they had her killer. It’s unfortunate that he took his own life in some ways in that we will not have a trial and he won’t have to face justice.

the DNA was beyond telling as was the meager description of how Faye was killed. No statement on the condition of her body. Just DNA linking her and CT found in CT home and other crime scene. I think that is very telling. I am not sure people who aren’t convinced he did it would actually be convinced if his DNA was found inside the poor girl or likely was found in. If taking a ten year old picture from high school leads people to be unsure about this person, I can’t sway that opinion.
I was here and am here for Justice for Faye and all victims. CT is not a victim. He is the sole perpetrator of Faye’s murder. As such, his reputation means nothing to me. Outside of possibly learning if he left clues and signals throughout the last ten plus years that society or family ignored that could have possibly prevented this.

Kudos from a fellow Texan!! I immediately thought of little Jessica. I thought of her dad telling the news how C. held her and hid her. How he knew she could hear her father and LE calling her name searching for her. They even went to the door and people inside the house lied for the dirty bstrd.
Child killers don't start with #2. There is always a first time. Maybe this was CT's first, we don't know, but for sure this was his last. I am thankful for that. We always try to find a reason for a person's bizzare behaviour, but the truth is before behaviours are displayed, it's too late. They always are shown after the deed is done. They are all masters of deception.
And BTW, ladles come in all sizes...some up to 32 oz. And I have used a tablespoon to dig holes if nothing else was available.

Edited by me to fix curse word.

 

[Cloudydiamond]

Not having any LE background myself, that would be one of the first places I would have looked. So I really hope that was examined. I've never put a link here so I'm not sure if it will work, but this is the Storage space they are talking about. This is 201 Picadilly Square cayce sc, not his address of 602 picadilly square cayce sc, but based on Google Earth it looks like his apartment had the same type of storage space/workshop.

201 Picadilly Square Cayce SC Storage Space:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/201-Picadilly-Sq-Cayce-SC-29033/2124250201_zpid/?mmlb=g,11

Google Earth of CT's address:

Google Earth

I used that as an example for the description. His unit did not mention "storage unit". Yes, that is definately a storage unit. I'm not sure he would have placed her there like you said considering LE searching.

 

[HaikuMommy]

I wish they had done the same for CupCake, like they did with Faye but I guess its different because the suspects are alive and going to trial so documents get released?

Oh my goodness, yes. Poor CupCake! My heart hurts for her. Reading about that case I was shocked (and extra angry) that the woman Derick Brown participated in the crime. Sometimes the horrifying details, who did what, etc. CAN clarify dangers -- such as, just because a woman is with a man doesn't mean you can trust them. But no, I wouldn't want those details released if I were the grieving parent.

 

[SCBaseballMom]

I just don’t know that I have the stomach for this anymore. I am glad CT will never have the ability to do this to another innocent child. It makes my heart sad that so many want a conspiracy theory to cling to... even to the point of saying like “It is sad that a killer is still on the loose in that neighborhood” (paraphrase from WS Thread #4). LE did an amazing job, and this small community in my home state is trying to find closure and strength to move forward. Can you imagine being a mother who lives nearby and seeing such a comment offered with ZERO proof?! You guys can cling to your conspiracy theories. I will continue praying for the family and community and move on. May Faye’s loved ones find peace.

 

[watcher9]

Just finished the last thread so I'm playing catch up!

When LE came to do their original search of his townhouse, I believe Faye's body was hidden in the roommate's bedroom with the door locked.

In response to their request, CT may have said something along the lines of 'sure, no problem, yeah, go ahead and search. Oh, I don't have a key to this room. It belongs to my roommate but he's out of town. He'll be back next week.'

At the time, LE didn't have a search warrant to break open the door but if they had gotten the door open, the first blame could have been cast upon the roommate instead of CT.

 

[auggieandchip]

I've been a bit busy the past few days and wasn't able to keep up the case updates. I just saw the cause of death and I am appalled.
Was there any mention of a motive for why this psychopath sicko did this?

What other explanation would work, here? There is literally NO explanation for this.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

Storage unit in these apartments. Just as I said.
401 Picadilly Square Unit 1, Cayce, SC 29033 - Apartment for Rent in Cayce, SC | Apartments.com

That's the apartment complex directly across the street from his apartment complex, which his apartment complex is in the 600 block of Picadilly Square, which isn't to say there isn't a storage unit at his apartment complex but this evidence from another apartment complex isn't evidence of it.

 

[LittleBitty]

As far as the search goes (and I go back to John Couey/Jessica Lunsford), LE attempted or was successful in searching all 280 or so homes as much as possible in the two days that Faye went missing. Unfortunately, I don't believe that LE searched every closet, opened every cabinet, looked in every crawl space or attic, etc...I think that they did the absolute best they could outside of a literal search warrant.

Most everyone gave permission. Once permission is given, LE probably did a walkthrough of the residence looking for things that were amiss. As LE said, CT was cooperative and they did enter his residence. But it would not have been a thorough search like we see once a search warrant has been issued. Totally different. I don't blame LE and from what the ME's office said, Faye was killed within a few hours (guessing that came from her stomach contents---it stinks we have to know these things about pinpointing a Time of Death--JMO--but thinking that was largely how they arrived at that conclusion) of going missing.

I also understand everyone's frustration about wanting to keep our kids safe and trying to understand how we can better do that.

I do appreciate that LE did not refer to CT by name in the presser. As far as I am concerned, Faye's name is the only one that matters and her name Faye Marie Swetlik was said multiple times.

I don't really get the ladle either. But I am glad that for whatever reason, upon seeing it, LE again immediately searched the woods. Glad for this.

I only thought of an outside closet/storage unit on the balcony as it seems like a logical place for him to have hidden her body, especially if his roommate came and went, etc...NO doubt he was feeling tremendous pressure as LE had not left the neighborhood/playing by the FBI playbook.

It was the right decision to roadblock the neighborhood off as, if they had not, CT could have been able to take her body elsewhere where it may never have been found and he may not have been caught. I am glad he spent the last hours of his life likely in a panic.

I will never understand what makes someone kidnap and kill a child. No matter what the intent or motivation was behind it. Which is also something I will never understand. I try to imagine a person sitting there with these thoughts and fantasies and wonder why they never sought help. Asked for help to stop that from happening. It will never ever make sense to me.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

Is LE required by law to disclose details of the murder to Coty's family? I imagine they are in a total state of disbelief (unless there's a lot of stuff we don't know about).

This is the first case I've followed where someone has been found guilty without a trial; it just leaves me feeling unsettled. I hope LE comes back in the near future and answers some of the many questions still lingering in this case.

They would be required to show his autopsy results but not hers for the same reason the public can't see it. If her estate was to sue his estate then Faye's autopsy would probably be discoverable or if any other legal action was taken against his estate based on Faye's autopsy.

 

[Cloudydiamond]

That's the apartment complex directly across the street from his apartment complex, which his apartment complex is in the 600 block of Picadilly Square, which isn't to say there isn't a storage unit at his apartment complex but this evidence from another apartment complex isn't evidence of it.

There all the same

 

[SpanishInquisition]

What does interest me is if there's LE body cam of CT's interview when being asked the FBI-developed questionnaire and letting LE search his home. There's been any number of killers where they just put out a bad vibe, yet that didn't appear to happen here. It really makes me think if the video shows him cool as cucumber that this wasn't his first rodeo and he could be behind multiple unsolved crimes.

 

[CarolinaAsh]

That is an interesting thought. I guess it would depend on what type of officer interviewed him. A regular patrol officer maybe would have one. A detective might not.