GUILTY SC - Five Jones children, ages 1-8, Lexington County, 28 Aug 2014 *Father Arrested*

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Missed Senior, then (or was he still on stand?) why the jury was sent out. Whatever the latter involves, judge indicates it'll take over an hour to resolve. Jury sent home for the day.

 

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Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 3h3 hours ago
Here's a look inside the courtroom today, where both Timothy Jones Jr.'s father and grandmother both got emotional when the latter took the stand.

Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 2h2 hours ago
Not a dry eye in court this morning. More to come this afternoon. @wis10

 

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Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 2h2 hours ago
Lunch break is over and the defense's next witness, Timothy Jones Sr. (the father of the defendant) goes to the stand. He previously testified on May 29.


Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 2h2 hours ago
Tim Jones Sr. takes the stand for the second time in this trial, but this time, he's pleading for his son's life to be spared. @wis10


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 2h2 hours ago
Defense shows pictures of Tim Jones Jr.'s mother (and Tim Jones Sr.'s first wife), while Jones Sr. talks about their relationship and Tim's early childhood.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 1h1 hour ago
Defense shows the jury photographs and videos taken thirty years later, showing Jones Sr. hanging out by the pool with his oldest grandchildren back in 2012.


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 1h1 hour ago
Jones Sr. starting to cry on the stand, saying the incident has "changed my whole world".


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 1h1 hour ago
To honor his grandchildren, Jones Sr. got a back tattoo of their faces. He took his shirt off to show the jury.

Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 1h1 hour ago
Tim Jones Sr. shows jury his tattoos on his back memorializing his five slain grandchildren. @wis10

Courtney King‏ @CourtReportKing 1h1 hour ago
Timothy Jones Senior is showing the jury his back tattoo he got to memorialize his grandchildren and other family members he’s lost @wachfox

Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 1h1 hour ago
Jones Sr. says he does not want his son to get the death penalty, saying he does not want to hurt anymore.


Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 1h1 hour ago
As expected, Tim Jones Sr. tells the jury he doesn't want his son to be put to death, "I don't want to hurt no more." @wis10


Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 1h1 hour ago
"He’s a brilliant young man, he snaps, I don’t know what causes it, but he’s snapped," Tim Jones Sr. testifies on the stand. @wis10


Tim Scott‏ @TimScottTV 1h1 hour ago
Jones Sr. says he feels more responsible than anyone since he wasn't there to protect his grandchildren. He also says his son was a "brilliant young man...who just snapped." His main overtone is that his son should not receive the death penalty.

 

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I missed most of Sr’s testimony.
Not sure this day was a good one for the defense. Bringing another psychiatrist to beat that dead horse again accomplished little. Nice to know Jones is being a good boy in prison per the corrections officer. His grandmother and father weren’t hugely helpful in my opinion. They are really caught in the middle. I have no doubt they loved those children with all their heart, and I am sure they love Jr too. Their testimonies have seemed truthful but have wavered all over the place because of the emotions involved. Not sure how it plays with the jury.
I can’t imagine the defense having much else to cover in the penalty part.

 

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Grandmother of dad who killed 5 kids asks to spare his life

June 10, 2019

"COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — The father and grandmother of a man who killed his five children asked a jury Monday to spare his life for the murders because thier family has seen so much death and sadness.

Roberta Thornsberry testified that along with losing her five great-grandchildren after Timothy Jones Jr. killed them in their Lexington home in 2014, she has also had to deal with untimely deaths of other children and grandchildren....

Later Monday, Timothy Jones Sr. also asked the jury to spare his son’s life, taking off his dress shirt and tie to show the jury tattoos of all five of his grandchildren’s faces covering his back.

Earlier he testified how he tore down the pool he built in his backyard for the grandchildren to play in after defense lawyers at trial had showed a home movie of him holding the oldest two in floaties.

“I feel more responsible than anyone,” Jones Sr. said of the murders of his five grandchildren at the hands of his son....

Earlier Monday, defense lawyers called two prison guards who said Jones has been a model prisoner in his nearly five years behind bars, ignoring horrible things said by other prisoners when they discovered who he was and what he had done.

They also called psychiatrist Donna Maddox who has treated Jones and said his schizophrenia is getting worse, taking away his outward emotions and his intelligence...."

Grandmother of dad who killed 5 kids asks to spare his life

 

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Jesse Weber & Panel Discuss the Emotional Testimony in the Timothy Jones Trial 06/07/19

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Brian Buckmire & Defense Attorney Darryl Cohen Discuss the Timothy Jones Trial 06/07/19

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Timothy Jones Penalty Phase Day 3 Dr Donna Maddox 06/10/19

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Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 13m13 minutes ago
I've never witnessed someone undress in a courtroom, until today. Tim Jones Sr. shows the jury how he memorialized his five murdered grandchildren--killed at the hands of his son, Tim Jones Jr. @wis10

 

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The jury has already determined that Jones is not insane...the defense lawyers, on the other hand, might actually be crazy. The jury must be fuming.
Notes to defense team:
1) Just because you don’t want something to be true doesn’t make it untrue(Dr Cruz’s report)
2) Saying something a million times doesn’t make it true(Jones is schizophrenic)
3) Your job is to make an argument for your client NOT to get the death penalty, not to ensure that he does.

Why are they harping on the schizophrenia when the jury determined he wasn’t insane?

JMO. I think he’s an evil, manipulative, emotional void .

I wouldn’t waste a jail cell for him.

 

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Caroline Hecker‏Verified account @CHecker_WIS 13m13 minutes ago
I've never witnessed someone undress in a courtroom, until today. Tim Jones Sr. shows the jury how he memorialized his five murdered grandchildren--killed at the hands of his son, Tim Jones Jr. @wis10

I’m not sure what to say......

 

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Why are they harping on the schizophrenia when the jury determined he wasn’t insane?

JMO. I think he’s an evil, manipulative, emotional void .

I wouldn’t waste a jail cell for him.

The legal talking heads linked to above say the defense is still arguing schizophrenia, even after the jury said nope, because that's all they have.

I disagree. They could have argued mentally ill because of borderline personality disorder, a diagnosis the State wouldn't have refuted, and which wouldn't have slapped the jury in their faces by re-pedalling the fiction Jr. was insane when he killed his babies.

As for Senior & Jr.'s grandmother. They were perfectly appropriate mitigation witnesses, imo (leaving aside Senior's disrobing), and their grief is no doubt real. I'd guess, though, that the jury will at best see them as collateral victims of Junior, and their grief an insufficient reason to extend mercy.

 

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The Latest: Grandfather shows tattoos of slain kids at trial

June 10, 2019

"COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — The Latest on a death penalty trial for a South Carolina father (all times local):

3:15 p.m.

he father of a South Carolina man convicted of killing his five children is asking jurors to give him life without parole.
Timothy Jones Sr. took off his tie and dress shirt to show jurors Monday the tattoos of the faces of his five slain grandchildren on his back at the request of defense lawyers.

Jones Sr. asked jurors to spare his son's life because he doesn't want to hurt anymore. He testified he tore down the pool he built for his grandchildren in his backyard because the memories were too painful...."

The Latest: Grandfather shows tattoos of slain kids at trial

 

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Dear lord. Just watched all of Senior's testimony. Didn't realize the defense had asked him to strip, then had asked him about the individual tattoos.

Senior looks awful. His eyes are puffy, big bags underneath them. Tears are visible when he cries. His hankerchief is all tangled up.

Junior looks at him, at one point almost with curiosity. Wipes his eyes too. No tears. No bags under his eyes. His hanky still perfectly folded.

And good on the State for having Senior admit he was there for Junior in every way he knew how to be, and loved him.

 

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Timothy Jones Penalty Phase Day 3 Roberta Thornsberry 06/10/19

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Timothy Jones Penalty Phase Day 3 Timothy Jones Sr 06/10/19

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Michel Bryant & Defense Attorney Julius Collins Discuss the Death Penalty & the Timothy Jones Trial

Jun 10, 2019

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Listened again & more closely to Dr. Donna.

She didn't just reassert schizophrenia in some general sense unrelated to the murders. She specifically argued that Jr MUST have been schizophrenic & psychotic when he killed his babies. This because his schizophrenia with psychotic features has persisted for "five years," far beyond the shelf life of any garden variety drug induced psychosis. No doubt at all in her mind about this, she says.

She bases this conclusion primarily upon Jr's self reporting on his "hallucinations," both their presence and their being vanquished by anti-psychotic meds.

But being on meds logically = fewer or no psych symptoms, eh?

So, she asserts his "positive" symptoms improved, but during her once a year visits she's noticed an increase in his "negative" symptoms. Oooo-k.

Like "lack of affect," which she identifies as a symptom of schizophrenia. Well, yes. And of depression And of psychopathy, and a very long list of other possibilities.

And "cognitive decline" as a negative symptom, despite the fact he went from the 1st to the 80 odd percentile on his neuro psych tests taken 5 years apart.

Her own little cognitive tests, or interpretation, at least, was just as skewed, or frankly, just plain absurd. Name a list of whatever, and Tim Jr. came up with an exceptionally long list of 23, far better than a passing list of 11.

But she noticed that in making his list he exhibited evidence of whatzomacallit, which she explained as a symptom of cognitive impairment akin to senility, basically. The evidence? That he named an item on his list more than once. :O

(OMG! That would make me & pretty much everyone I know either full blown senile or negatively symptomatic schizophrenics).

Thank goodness this jury's BS meter seems to be working just fine.

 

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Sorry finally back at the computer, crazy day over here, and back-read testimony and posts, thanks all!!!

I am just thinking TJ should stay faaaar away from that witness stand, as in every image/ stream etc. I have seen of him, he has the mien of a doorknob and the personality of a kiwi basically. Relatability of -45. I don't think he'd make any fans. In my humble opinion of course.

 

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Listened again & more closely to Dr. Donna.

She didn't just reassert schizophrenia in some general sense unrelated to the murders. She specifically argued that Jr MUST have been schizophrenic & psychotic when he killed his babies. This because his schizophrenia with psychotic features has persisted for "five years," far beyond the shelf life of any garden variety drug induced psychosis. No doubt at all in her mind about this, she says.

She bases this conclusion primarily upon Jr's self reporting on his "hallucinations," both their presence and their being vanquished by anti-psychotic meds.

But being on meds logically = fewer or no psych symptoms, eh?

So, she asserts his "positive" symptoms improved, but during her once a year visits she's noticed an increase in his "negative" symptoms. Oooo-k.

Like "lack of affect," which she identifies as a symptom of schizophrenia. Well, yes. And of depression And of psychopathy, and a very long list of other possibilities.

And "cognitive decline" as a negative symptom, despite the fact he went from the 1st to the 80 odd percentile on his neuro psych tests taken 5 years apart.

Her own little cognitive tests, or interpretation, at least, was just as skewed, or frankly, just plain absurd. Name a list of whatever, and Tim Jr. came up with an exceptionally long list of 23, far better than a passing list of 11.

But she noticed that in making his list he exhibited evidence of whatzomacallit, which she explained as a symptom of cognitive impairment akin to senility, basically. The evidence? That he named an item on his list more than once. :O

(OMG! That would make me & pretty much everyone I know either full blown senile or negatively symptomatic schizophrenics).

Thank goodness this jury's BS meter seems to be working just fine.

I especially liked the part where she equated delusional voices with being nervous in a crowded room and hearing an inner voice say things like “I am really uncomfortable here, there’s so many people here. I’m sure everyone’s looking at me...”. I thought “uh oh....me and every single person I know are schizophrenic”.

 

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I especially liked the part where she equated delusional voices with being nervous in a crowded room and hearing an inner voice say things like “I am really uncomfortable here, there’s so many people here. I’m sure everyone’s looking at me...”. I thought “uh oh....me and every single person I know are schizophrenic”.

Right? You, me, everyone we both know and about 125 million other Americans, for that matter.

I'm pretty sure at least one juror is going to ask why the defense is still trying to say he was insane, and no matter their verdict, not really responsible. What other conclusion could they possible reach, but that Jr. just plain and simple refuses to accept responsibility for murdering his babies?

 

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