SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 - #14

[Snowyowl]

I do agree she could be farrer away than what I am thinking. Its JMO that I feel she is relatively close to the landing. Been thinking about how a certain person probably knew that area very well and the comfort zone of knowing the area. Thinking they probably had an ideal spot in mind for quite awhile and when the time came that morning, they just used the spot.

But you are right that they had the opportunity to go much farther. If she was removed from the area, then it is probably many miles and probably another spot the perp(s) had been to before and knew was just right.

ETA: For some reason, I keep thinking water and weights. Nothing to base it on other than seeing so much water around the landing and the many small creeks and holding ponds around the gravel pits areas. Some ponds were quite large.

in an early thread someone posted the tides & directions of flow. If it was a full moon(meaning higher tides) it might make sense to wait until low tide (much lower than usual due to full moon). This way if weighted down at low tide might be easier to pick a good spot. I'd think around a curve or bend up from PTL.
That isn't even factoring if you might choose an area near gators. With the warmth there might be some places they were active (bet fishermen might know). So you can weight it down in such an area and let the gators take care of it.
:moo::banghead:

 

[ZooSleuth]

I think the reason they chose to call them "PM's" in the press is because it doesn't really narrow things down for those of us following the case (they aren't saying "direct message" so we'd know it was Twitter or "online chat" so we'd know it was a messenger-type service or FB chat). "PM" makes it more vague for us, but you know that LE knows exactly where the chats took place and who the chats were between.

I consider a PM pretty much any type of communication on social media that isn't out there for the general public to see, and can only be seen by those involved in the convo.

I agree.

And FYI the term used for messages from MSN, AIM, BBM, etc. = IM's (instant messages)

 

[margarita25]

Slightly O/T, but Kevin Wayne Quick's body was found yesterday "down an old logging road in a muddy field" on a private property leased by hunters. Any private hunting lands around there?

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10210589&postcount=328

 

[EmmaRose]

This is despicable:

http://www.wbtw.com/story/24665012/father-of-missing-woman

Sick, sick, sick. Hope they are found. Poor Mr. Elvis, this is all they need now.

 

[SharetheLight]

Because she could be either near or far away, it's important for LE to research back in time--where have perps grown up? Was it in Myrtle Beach or somewhere further away?? When I was a kid,I knew all the woods and hidey holes like the back of my hand, knew areas where no one ever came through, and felt very comfortable being there for those reasons. When I visit that area now, years later, i still experience that deep familiarity and comfort level. the woods feels as much like home as the house i grew up in nearby. Also, LE might want to check out where possible perps went camping through the years.

Yes yes and yes!

 

[Vinny]

Sick, sick, sick. Hope they are found. Poor Mr. Elvis, this is all they need now.

Wow...just wow...:thud:

 

[Snowyowl]

Thanks for the reply.
I doubt those two people even knew each other existed, but you never know.

What about the 'hint' or 'look here' comment you made? Care to share?

they did bring up the ex, but it seems emphasis on OM. Meaning they could have said ex was cleared,etc. But they're still keeping him in the equation. While everybody running around & harrassing OM someone like ex is still under their radar(or they'd like you to think that). THis way LE wouldn't be lying in a presser,but just dropping a hint nonchalantly.
No-one has still said WHERE HEather was living before moving in with roomie?? Was it the ex? If she got a traffic ticket IIRC her addy was STILL her parents house?? So unless we have some locals who knew we're outta luck....

 

[margarita25]

This is despicable:

http://www.wbtw.com/story/24665012/father-of-missing-woman

Disgusting! Despicable is Right! And so are all the people doing similar things (posted way upstream in interview with TE).

 

[cluciano63]

I hope they were able to trace pings for the whole day of Dec 18 as well as the 19th, on any Poi's. If phones were not turned off, pings could lead to areas to search and show if anyone left the area. But of course it seems like they would have had this info a while now...

 

[margarita25]

I've reread this article.

http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/crime/article_ada6ad1c-8f77-11e3-8ca7-001a4bcf6878.html?mode=jqm
<respectfully snipped>

Wow, wow, wow, thanks for posting/reposting this. Just getting caught up here and seeing this article. A lot there. Much information anxiously awaited!

 

[margarita25]

fyi- My Horry News
https://www.facebook.com/MyHorryNews

In the coming days our newspapers will be publishing an occasional series about all missing persons in Horry County, SC. The plan is to profile one missing person a month. Thank you for reading!

I think My Horry News has been reading all of foxfire's posts jmo

 

[ZooSleuth]

Disgusting! Despicable is Right! And so are all the people doing similar things (posted way upstream in interview with TE).

Do you remember which interview with TE that was, or around when it was published? TIA!

 

[margarita25]

Do you remember which interview with TE that was, or around when it was published? TIA!

Let me see if I can find it!!! It was quite a while ago.

 

[Knox]

PMs...You can send private messages on Twitter. They're called Direct Messages. And you can do it on FB, and any number of games. Also could be referring to regular tweets on her private Twitter account. Or messages through a dating site. I know this isn't very helpful, just brainstorming.

ETA: Or deleted tweets.

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Twitter catches my eye because of OMW's comment that four months of HE's Tweets went missing recently.

Hmmn, is that significant? Not sure if we can discuss this in any depth, I can't link to the source material. Food for thought nevertheless.

 

[PeterThomasFan]

Myrtle Beach police investigate threat made to father of Heather Elvis

According to an Horry County police report obtained by Waccamaw Publishers, a woman, 49, said she and several others were searching for Elvis in the area of Highway 814 west of Myrtle Beach when several people from a residence on that road confronted them and told them to leave.

One of the persons in the group picked up a stick and started walking toward the victim, but never hit anybody with it, the Jan. 19 report said.

One of the police reports we weren't previously allowed to talk about. I originally heard the call come in on the scanner that night.

 

[SharetheLight]

I've been sick:sick: for the past week and it has been really hard to think straight since my head is so clogged up. Not to mention reading all of the questions derived from other questions and the recent interview. Plus, still trying to decipher a ping vs. a call vs. a text or PM vs. IM vs. TXT vs. Chat. ...My head is hurting enough as it is! :headache:

No sympathy required. I just want my money back from the flu shot I got!

Anyway, while I have been laid up in the "sick bed", I have been able to watch countless hours of the ID Channel and Netflix investigative shows. Call it homework if you will.

In an episode of Homicide Hunter: Lt. Joe Kenda "Everyone Lies" that I just watched, Lt. Kenda makes a very profound statement that stuck with me and is related to HE case.

He said:

"The motivation is the key factor. What made someone kill? How they did it is interesting.
What they used is interesting. But, why they did it is the key to finding who did it."​

So, with that, we can complete some of the 5 W's in relation to HE:

Who? - HE
What? - Missing
Where? - PTL
When? - 12/18/13-12/19/13
Why? -

Bonus:
How? -


Five Ws - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why-fear, jealousy, anger--mostly fear but not fear of Heather
How-blunt force trauma to head and face.

Eta: it made my stomach turn to think about the how but I think if there is a crime, it's very personal.

 

[SharetheLight]

they did bring up the ex, but it seems emphasis on OM. Meaning they could have said ex was cleared,etc. But they're still keeping him in the equation. While everybody running around & harrassing OM someone like ex is still under their radar(or they'd like you to think that). THis way LE wouldn't be lying in a presser,but just dropping a hint nonchalantly.

No-one has still said WHERE HEather was living before moving in with roomie?? Was it the ex? If she got a traffic ticket IIRC her addy was STILL her parents house?? So unless we have some locals who knew we're outta luck....

LE did not mention ex in the interview. At least not on the details provided. Ex was only mentioned when the writer of the article brought in info that was found on the PR.

 

[Snowyowl]

Ok, I saw the Tumbler, then I saw the RSS data details and then Imamaze mentioned the poem, "24th of january."

Then it hit me...
The 66 days from the date of that November Tweet "66 days." So, I go to her twitter page to check the date of that tweet. Well the Twitter page will not open. Anyway, I feel like that Tweet was Nov 3 or 19th but I can't view it now.

My theory: Is January 24th the 66th day from the Tweet? If I am correct, then that date holds particular significance to Heather or whoever she hoped to see the tweet and the poem.

ETA: https://mobile.twitter.com/HeatherElvis/status/397916643239948288?screen_name=HeatherElvis
It was nov 5th so that makes it January 10th. So that is likely not relevant to jan 24th
It is two weeks prior to the 24th and 4 days before Mr M's Bday... I guess it blows my theory.

I posted that 66 day tweet was RT by only 1 person who had a private account. That might mean that person was aware of whatever that meant. It could also be another account HE might have set up. It was definitely in the time frame of HE going private on her twitter. So obviously something happened to cause her to do that.
Maybe in same time frame as "accident",moving out,discovery of ex that maybe OM,etc...

 

[AshleyZ86]

Has anyone posted this link yet?

http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/24665...l&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Elvis saw two white males in the vehicle, a driver and passenger, the report states. The passenger yelled out to Elvis: "We already have Heather, Morgan is next."

 

[Snowyowl]

LE did not mention ex in the interview. At least not on the details provided. Ex was only mentioned when the writer of the article brought in info that was found on the PR.

understood. Just trying to cover all angles & trying to use logic. I've always felt a leopard doesn't change their spots & if ex was reported to be violent then a violent person would be my first guess if a person was missing.
Looking at it another way,it wasn't denied??If a reporter has access to PR then maybe there's other things in there. Maybe press coordinates w/LE seeding info,etc??