SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 - #14

[primitivefuture]

Based on how PTL looks, it seems like it might make sense to have parked that way.

Hmm. Thanks for that. Looking at the photo again helps. I had a different image in my memory. I wonder why her dad even mentioned it. Maybe he would have parked differently. I figured it was nothing. Thanks again!


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[JnRyan]

Has anyone researched human trafficking in MB area?
The Super Bowl is suppose to be a big attraction for this activity.
What other large cities are within MB driving distance that LE have interests in trafficking?
Could MB area have a group of people in this ring?
Just thinking out loud.

Anything's possible, but I doubt HE is the victim of this. Those that traffic want low profile victims that are easier to control. Top on that list is a person from Russia, eastern Europe or SE Asia. The language barrier and the fear of being in a strange land helps to keep them under control. Another targeted group are the runaways in the 12-16 age group. Get them out of the area they are familiar with and keep them moving. Again, use fear.

They don't want a high profile person that a 'customer' or hotel worker or person in the neighborhood is likely to recognize from being on the news. The pimps don't want attention drawn to themselves.

 

[tarheelslim]

Per the myhorrynews article from 2/6, police "don't think human trafficking is in any way connected to the Elvis case."

Sounds like not only is HT not a factor, but to conclude so definitively that they must have some idea of what did happen.

 

[Flutterflies]

:welcome:tarheelslim! :welcome: to Websleuths

 

[JnRyan]

http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/crime/article_ada6ad1c-8f77-11e3-8ca7-001a4bcf6878.html

From the article:
'Police have executed more than a dozen search warrants, administered polygraph examinations and fielded hundreds of tips from the public, investigators say.'

I'm not too hung up the polygraphs.

They are specific with the search warrants. over a dozen. 'Hundreds' of tips. No such detail with the polygraphS, plural, sandwiched between the two. 'Two' is plural. Maybe they only tested the date and maybe a co-worker she was close to. In fact, the date maybe the only person in the PR to be given an exam and maybe one other. I thought I read early on that LE had persons who were not cooperating.

Maybe LE has done over a dozen polygraphs. But they didn't say. Of course, maybe I've been doing audits too long and I'm somewhat cynical.

This could be also be just the journalist's writing. Another why it is better to ask your interview questions while sitting across from the person, rather than take a written statement.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Per the myhorrynews article from 2/6, police "don't think human trafficking is in any way connected to the Elvis case."

Sounds like not only is HT not a factor, but to conclude so definitively that they must have some idea of what did happen.

I take the comment by LE that they "don't think human trafficking is in any way connected to the Elvis case" as meaning they have no evidence showing a human trafficking connection, not that they have ruled it out. MOO.

http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/crime/article_ada6ad1c-8f77-11e3-8ca7-001a4bcf6878.html

 

[carbuff]

I totally understand the reasons behind it, especially because it was so early in the morning. Even if he had a roommate or girlfriend, that may not hold up. All I was saying was that, the news station had TE on and he suggested that they have a lot of circumstantial evidence and it all points to one person. I don't believe he is referring to the violent ex (I really don't like calling him that bc we don't even know that he is or was). So, it got me thinking....I know you can't arrest or prosecute on circumstantial evidence, but if they thought sm did it where they were going to let TE go on tv and talk about on Tues, don't you think they would clear violent ex. Or I'd this all in TE's opinion. I guess that's where I am going with this and trying to figure things out. LE usually eliminate people as they go. Sorry, kinda rambling, talking this through.

He doesn't need police permission to talk to them -- unless there's a judicial gag order, they can't do more than ask. And it sounds to me like he has decided to go public with all of this stuff that they had asked him to keep quiet about, because he thinks he knows the answer.

 

[tarheelslim]

I take the comment by LE that they "don't think human trafficking is in any way connected to the Elvis case" as meaning they have no evidence showing a human trafficking connection, not that they have ruled it out. MOO.

http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/crime/article_ada6ad1c-8f77-11e3-8ca7-001a4bcf6878.html

My interpretation of the coptalk vagaries is that they are being as definitive as they're willing to be before the case is solved. I see the "don't think human trafficking is in any way connected to the Elvis case" statement as saying that they know it isn't involved, and I see the "fairly comfortable" she drove herself there statement as saying that they know she drove herself there.

I could be wrong, but that's just the feel I get from the LE statements.

 

[tarheelslim]

:welcome:tarheelslim! :welcome: to Websleuths

I appreciate the welcome - I've been lurking here for a little while but it seems like this case is drawing a lot of us in to the discussion.

 

[margarita25]

I appreciate the welcome - I've been lurking here for a little while but it seems like this case is drawing a lot of us in to the discussion.

That's the idea

 

[jillycat]

LE can't discuss their findings, so their public statements IMO are a pat on the media's head and a crowd pleaser designed to affirm the investigation is active.

Regardless of where things point, how shall I say this, I think a lot of 'colorful' personalities are in the mix, and, well, it's complicated no matter in what direction one looks.

I continue to feel badly for Heather who's gone missing twice now - on 12/18 and in the ongoing drama that has done nothing to bring her home.

 

[EmmaRose]

Are there any more searches going on for Heather? Also, have the Tidewater remains been identified?

O/T seems as if someone called in a tip relating to where to look for Sierra Lamar.

CA - Sierra Lamar, 15, Santa Clara County, 16 March 2012 **arrest** - #20

Hope they can find Heather so it doesn't go on and on as in the Lamar case.

 

[nancy57]

Could HE been lured by a certain lover and he had others with him, they kidnapped her and had a buyer for her? pimp? or just gave her away to get rid of her? Maybe she is still alive somewhere?

This is what I have been thinking. She can't be found because she is no longer in the area.

 

[Victory]

Are there any more searches going on for Heather? Also, have the Tidewater remains been identified?

O/T seems as if someone called in a tip relating to where to look for Sierra Lamar.

CA - Sierra Lamar, 15, Santa Clara County, 16 March 2012 **arrest** - #20

Hope they can find Heather so it doesn't go on and on as in the Lamar case.

Thanks for the heads up, EmmaRose. Great news!

 

[Topcat]

ex strikes me as troubling only cuz listed in PR and press story covering said he said something like "If u hide I will find you"Couple that with LE had an opportunity to exonerate & still did not choose to do so..
Think about it,ex stated as violent in PR (which hasn't been revised after all this time)
[modsnip]
[modsnip]
maybe Heather lived w/ex?
if Heather was feeling down after her date w/nobody to talk with maybe ex was there?
his statement about finding her scares me cuz I have a feeling after Heather moved he had no idea & was following her when she went to pick up her mail (since he'd know where they lived)
if he saw her Tue PM w/mail maybe followed to her place (since SS dropped her off there-altho no mention of WHERE he picked her up)
What do you think??

I wonder if HE was seeing/living with "violent guy" when she was seeing SM aka OMM..is there a timeline for this ? We know (twitter) that she was working at HOB when she made statement about making a appearance (TK) because Sidney was going to be there,,But was this before ,during or after they"solidified" their relationship?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

If we believe LE, all messaging was with one person only. How would this guy or anyone else know Heather would be at PTL at or around 6am?

LE discovered PMs that we had no knowledge of prior to the latest report.
The identity of the person/s who HE exchanged PMs with hasn't been revealed nor has the content of the PMs. Since the PMs could contain potential evidence, we can't assume HE didn't have a conversation/plan/arrangement with someone else. The person could be anybody to include someone who isn't on our radar.

When new info comes out, we have to consider that it may be relevant to the case. :twocents:

Just because TE and roommate gave two names/situations on day one when the PR began, doesn't conclude that something unrelated to those two names didn't happened. The initial PR was just a starting point.

 

[Topcat]

My mind keeps going back to Heather's car. Didn't her dad say it was found parked sideways, rather than having been driven into a parking space? I cant find where I remember reading/watching that at the moment. Was a picture taken of her car by her dad or a cop at PTL before it was moved? To me, parking like that is something a person does when they're just meeting somebody for a minute or two. Clearly, I know nothing of her driving/parking ticket record. The cops think she drove herself there. Maybe she was lured there in a "getting her stuff back" context? Maybe it's nothing, but I keep wondering why she parked like that.


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I don't think there was a concise description of where and how HE's car was parked at PTL..Is there a picture available? not that I know of ..just interpretations of TE's one sentence observation. The PR did not give an accurate description either.

 

[nosysw]

LE discovered PMs that we had no knowledge of prior to the latest report.
The identity of the person/s who HE exchanged PMs with hasn't been revealed nor has the content of the PMs. Since the PMs could contain potential evidence, we can't assume HE didn't have a conversation/plan/arrangement with someone else. The person could be anybody to include someone who isn't on our radar.

When new info comes out, we have to consider that it may be relevant to the case. :twocents:

Just because TE and roommate gave two names/situations on day one when the PR began, doesn't conclude that something unrelated to those two names didn't happened. The initial PR was just a starting point.

Can you please give me the link about the PMs? I'm getting hopelessly confused and turned around. I know it was stated, but I can't remember when and where.

This article does mention phone activity and specifically mentions SM:

Horry County investigators confirmed to MyHorryNews.com that cell phone records show Elvis communicated with a man, whom the website identifies as 38-year-old Sidney Moorer, as late as 6 a.m. on Dec. 18. Police records obtained by the website state that Elvis had a relationship history with Moorer, of Horry County.

more at link:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/02/0...-year-old-south-carolina-woman-heather-elvis/

and this one mentions man twice her age (can't imagine who else it would be but SM since they also say it's someone she had a relationship with):

According to the report, the last phone calls were at about 6 a.m. Dec. 18, about four hours after Elvis and Shiraldi ended their date.

The calls were back and forth between the victim and the older man, the report said.

The older man told police he hasn’t seen the victim since October, and then admitted to speaking with Heather Elvis the previous night, the report continued.

http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/local/aynor/article_e27b8722-81fa-11e3-a440-001a4bcf6878.html

Can you link me to the article that specifically mentions PMs? I know it exists because it's been discussed here numerous times, I'd just like to have a link so I can have the three articles to compare, if you have it handy.

TIA.

 

[SharetheLight]

Can you please give me the link about the PMs? I'm getting hopelessly confused and turned around. I know it was stated, but I can't remember when and where.



This article does mention phone activity and specifically mentions SM:



Horry County investigators confirmed to MyHorryNews.com that cell phone records show Elvis communicated with a man, whom the website identifies as 38-year-old Sidney Moorer, as late as 6 a.m. on Dec. 18. Police records obtained by the website state that Elvis had a relationship history with Moorer, of Horry County.



more at link:



http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/02/0...-year-old-south-carolina-woman-heather-elvis/



and this one mentions man twice her age (can't imagine who else it would be but SM since they also say it's someone she had a relationship with):



According to the report, the last phone calls were at about 6 a.m. Dec. 18, about four hours after Elvis and Shiraldi ended their date.



The calls were back and forth between the victim and the older man, the report said.



The older man told police he hasn’t seen the victim since October, and then admitted to speaking with Heather Elvis the previous night, the report continued.



http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/local/aynor/article_e27b8722-81fa-11e3-a440-001a4bcf6878.html



Can you link me to the article that specifically mentions PMs? I know it exists because it's been discussed here numerous times, I'd just like to have a link so I can have the three articles to compare, if you have it handy.



TIA.

http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/crime/article_ada6ad1c-8f77-11e3-8ca7-001a4bcf6878.html

"Rhodes said about 15 search warrants have been issued since Elvis was reported missing. Through the warrants police have searched Elvis social media accounts, including private messages not previously reported. The contents of those messages have not been released."

We don't know when these PMs occurred.

 

[JaelynKL]

I don't think there was a concise description of where and how HE's car was parked at PTL..Is there a picture available? not that I know of ..just interpretations of TE's one sentence observation. The PR did not give an accurate description either.

Well the post below does. I remember seeing this. It was in thread #5 post 534.She was one of the searchers. I am not sure which map she is talking about. At the time I saw this I looked at PTL on google maps street view. There is a white truck in that photo. But I am not sure if this is the map she meant.

***Capt. Tab: If you rotate the google map and zoom in closely, her car was parked exactly where the white truck is, parked the same way from what I was told. They made a cross of flowers on the ground at that spot.***

I will try and link the google street view photo.


Peachtree Road

http://goo.gl/maps/T5RWh

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