SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 #19**ARREST**

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  • #741
TM also claimed to have received veteran rates as well as FL rates...She also stated one of her best friends lived in Miami right next to a palm farm and they stop and visit when they're down there.
Since SM went to J&W cooking school & supposedly loves to cook, I wonder why he was a contractor? J&W isn't cheap. I remember TM mentioning on Dis she's gained a lot of weight from his cooking. Guess that means he did
I tried to snip lol
but, umm, Miami is probably 5 hours from WDW.... it's not as if you ou lswing by....
 
  • #742
<Back on task, sorry>

This is a serious, terrible situation for Heather's family and I am definitely not trying to make light of that!!!!!!!!
 
  • #743
Wonder if the flurry of phone calls could be reaction to having been sent video....but I could go with the pay phone set-up, HE calls SM phone wondering where he is/what's the holdup if he (or TM rather) arranged the landing meeting spot.
 
  • #744
Not really sure, as Inlet Square Mall was the only place mentioned for sure about the date, but IMO where I work, is the last place I'd want to go on a date. If I'm off the clock, then I'm no where near my place of employment. But hey thats just me.

She had lots of friends at TK and some people think her date may have worked there too. Anyway, I know I often went to places I was working when off the clock. It was fun being a customer instead of server. JMO and many moons ago...
 
  • #745
i agree, I think they were caught on camera, doing something like flashing, or something else, and I'm wondering if they were doing to HE at the time.

JMO

I keep thinking back to the FB profile TM had up for several days after Heather's disappearance where there were two characters dressed in costumes, and one appeared to be mooning the viewer.
 
  • #746
I have been away today, and finally got a chance to check in.

Kidnapping :eek:

I have been trying to see if MSM/anywhere shows that maybe more charges are coming.

Thoughts?? :jail:
 
  • #747
So, who killed Amber Berbiglia?
 
  • #748
I'm still on post #301, but I wanted to share this while it's in my head freshly....

I have a theory (and no, it's not bunnies.) that if correct would account for the surveillance videos, and link them to all of the charges at once. At one point there was speculation that SM called HE from a pay phone. This was largely enforced by the image of a pay phone being used as a backdrop in the news report with the info about their affair. Many believed it was LE & the MSM's way of scaring the Ms. It also would make sense if you PLANNED the kidnapping to use a payphone so it didn't link back to you.

I'm wondering if the first call was from SM at that payphone to HE. and then HE called him back on his cell, ruining their plans. Not my main theory though. My theory is that TM took SM to call HE from a payphone to get her to meet him. While he was calling her TM may have been controlling him to make sure he said what SHE wanted him to say. I can think of a way to control him that would be devious, right up TM's alley it seems, and be indecent exposure. A way which I can think of no man at all doing anything to jeopardize a wrong move.

Perhaps when the number of the pay phone came up on HE's bill LE requested tapes from the location of the pay phone. That being the surveillance footage that triggered the warrant. It would also show SM initiating contact to HE, catching him in a lie, leading to obstruction. It may have also shown TM engaging in her... act of threatening him with dismemberment if ya catch my drift, leading to the indecent exposure acts.

I could also picture TM making SM do something in view of one of HE's poster or billboard. Kind of mocking him with it?

I can't remember, (been to Broadway at The Beach so many times since I live in Florence, SC) but are there pay phones there? I'm trying to remember if I saw any, since I always use my cell anyway....I'm thinking there are some near the bathrooms near Margaritaville, but I'm not sure.
 
  • #749
Wonder if the flurry of phone calls could be reaction to having been sent video....but I could go with the pay phone set-up, HE calls SM phone wondering where he is/what's the holdup if he (or TM rather) arranged the landing meeting spot.

Also, he may have used a pay phone to "prove" he was not at home, i.e left his wife...? Or in case she had been rejecting his calls?
 
  • #750
He really shouldn't quit his day job...

Oops! Looks like he already has...

:jail:

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh: now that made me snort :blushing:
 
  • #751
I'm still on post #301, but I wanted to share this while it's in my head freshly....

I have a theory (and no, it's not bunnies.) that if correct would account for the surveillance videos, and link them to all of the charges at once. At one point there was speculation that SM called HE from a pay phone. This was largely enforced by the image of a pay phone being used as a backdrop in the news report with the info about their affair. Many believed it was LE & the MSM's way of scaring the Ms. It also would make sense if you PLANNED the kidnapping to use a payphone so it didn't link back to you.

I'm wondering if the first call was from SM at that payphone to HE. and then HE called him back on his cell, ruining their plans. Not my main theory though. My theory is that TM took SM to call HE from a payphone to get her to meet him. While he was calling her TM may have been controlling him to make sure he said what SHE wanted him to say. I can think of a way to control him that would be devious, right up TM's alley it seems, and be indecent exposure. A way which I can think of no man at all doing anything to jeopardize a wrong move.

Perhaps when the number of the pay phone came up on HE's bill LE requested tapes from the location of the pay phone. That being the surveillance footage that triggered the warrant. It would also show SM initiating contact to HE, catching him in a lie, leading to obstruction. It may have also shown TM engaging in her... act of threatening him with dismemberment if ya catch my drift, leading to the indecent exposure acts.

I could also picture TM making SM do something in view of one of HE's poster or billboard. Kind of mocking him with it?

BBM: Yeah, because he's "stupid" as TM has stated.

Anyway, (here's a possible theory)...if the indecent pics or videos happened to be recorded by TM and the video was sent to HE's phone, combined with SM saying just after that he's leaving TM, it makes sense that the roomie (BW) stated that HE seemed upset and crying. It is a sick, twisted game that SM & TM are playing with eachother and HE became the pawn.

Maybe? Perhaps?....:scared:
 
  • #752
If they were out to murder HE it only makes sense they stalked her before hand.

Heartbroken for HE's family and the M's kids. Just heartbroken.
 
  • #753
Hi all.

I've decided to put on the big kid pants and crawl out from under my log.

Frankly, I got kind of tired of feeling like a creeper standing on the toilet seat and listening to you all from the other side of the stall.

Y'all have such a great attitude. I've loved seeing this group of strangers pull together.
I think it was belle... in the foothills of SC that called for the lurkers to join in a few hours back.
So, here I am.
Stepping off the toilet and stretching out my (freshly sanitized) hand.
 
  • #754
As for the exposure charges, warrants state the Moorers exposed themselves on two occasions between December 17 and December 18.

The first instance occurred at Atlantic Avenue and Century Circle in Conway. The other instance happened in the 1300 block of Celebrity Circle in Myrtle Beach, according to the warrants.


In both cases, the suspects exposed themselves in a public place, the warrants state.

http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/cri...11e3-a92f-0017a43b2370.html#user-comment-area

I keep seeing posts about the indecent exposure charge might be something sent to Heather's phone. Clearly, that is not the case according to the article. :twocents:
 
  • #755
<Back on task, sorry>

This is a serious, terrible situation for Heather's family and I am definitely not trying to make light of that!!!!!!!!

Amen, margarita. Nobody here is. Have been through many trials/cases here where humor pops up to relieve the stress of it all. It's not a bad thing, in my opinion, as long as it isn't directed at the innocent victims.

If we go over the line, our mods will be letting us know ASAP.
 
  • #756
The Google earth pics of Atalaya Place looks like new construction? Maybe SM was familiar with this due to his contracting business. Criminals usually go to places they are familiar with. Maybe that is why he would choose to be at such an 'out of the way place'? JMO

Is there a place to search records for permits pulled by him for this area?
 
  • #757
Hi all.

I've decided to put on the big kid pants and crawl out from under my log.

Frankly, I got kind of tired of feeling like a creeper standing on the toilet seat and listening to you all from the other side of the stall.

Y'all have such a great attitude. I've loved seeing this group of strangers pull together.
I think it was belle... in the foothills of SC that called for the lurkers to join in a few hours back.
So, here I am.
Stepping off the toilet and stretching out my (freshly sanitized) hand.

:welcome6: Muffin Magpie and thanks for the laugh :floorlaugh:
 
  • #758
But there were three plus hours or so, between her pic to her father and when she got home...they could have gone other places, IMO. Maybe they went to TK and the M's saw them? JMO

This has always been a big question mark for me. Unless they sat in the truck and talked for hours on end, there must be more to the date besides dinner and the stick-shift lesson. It's possible they just talked for that long but LE never came out and said that.
 
  • #759
Hi all.

I've decided to put on the big kid pants and crawl out from under my log.

Frankly, I got kind of tired of feeling like a creeper standing on the toilet seat and listening to you all from the other side of the stall.

Y'all have such a great attitude. I've loved seeing this group of strangers pull together.
I think it was belle... in the foothills of SC that called for the lurkers to join in a few hours back.
So, here I am.
Stepping off the toilet and stretching out my (freshly sanitized) hand.

Welcome!!
 
  • #760
Hi all.

I've decided to put on the big kid pants and crawl out from under my log.

Frankly, I got kind of tired of feeling like a creeper standing on the toilet seat and listening to you all from the other side of the stall.

Y'all have such a great attitude. I've loved seeing this group of strangers pull together.
I think it was belle... in the foothills of SC that called for the lurkers to join in a few hours back.
So, here I am.
Stepping off the toilet and stretching out my (freshly sanitized) hand.



:greetings:

:welcome6:
 
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