SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 #25 ***ARREST**

[OkieGranny]

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3011143&page=15

Been researching Royal Caribbean ships tonight. We honeymooned on one in '97. I think Sidney and I might do this line again next year if we go away to celebrate our anniversary alone without the kids. (They're a lot nicer looking now than back in '97)

(in order to celebrate wedding 15 yr gonna go celebrate alone on cruise-1st was on RCCL)

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3011143&page=18
We were on our way out to sea. The last time we sailed out of the Port of Miami was for our honeymoon back in 1998.

Looking forward to more Wonder report. Our first cruise will be next January, just DS and myself.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3011143&page=20

It's his birthday weekend and we had plans to go anyway. He wanted to do a 5K, but now he is doing the marathon instead. (

Yeah, I noticed she couldn't keep her years straight, lol. Here's a few gems unearthed from the Disboards today:

Aug 20, 2008: TM referred to herself as an "uptight paranoid private person".

Sep 25, 2008: TM said her current favorite Gavin DeGraw song was "Cheated On Me".

Sep 26, 2008: TM cracked a joke about another board member's husband, "ALWAYS blame the MAN!"

 

[intothedeep]

I gotta be honest... I had to look up what Chernobyl meant/was but it IS quite fitting.


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As long as you don't look up "lawnmower foot" - I think you're all good.
ython:

 

[cluciano63]

I think TM's self image and presentation of herself and her family and lifestyle outweighed everything else; logic, thought of being caught, whether or not S would remain faithful afterward, etc...none of that came into her mind. She just wanted the source of her problem gone forever, and then, in her deluded mind, her life would resume just as before and no one would have to know. When she knew exposure was coming, she lashed out first, in her infamous post.

But I do think Heather must have been still very much in the picture, to create the need for her death. Either that, or this case really is a Diane Zamora copy cat case...

JMO

 

[intothedeep]

Yeah, I noticed she couldn't keep her years straight, lol. Here's a few gems unearthed from the Disboards today:

Aug 20, 2008: TM referred to herself as an "uptight paranoid private person".

Sep 25, 2008: TM said her current favorite Gavin DeGraw song was "Cheated On Me".

Sep 26, 2008: TM cracked a joke about another board member's husband, "ALWAYS blame the MAN!"

This woman is just a treasure trove of dysfunction.

 

[intothedeep]

I think TM's self image and presentation of herself and her family and lifestyle outweighed everything else; logic, thought of being caught, whether or not S would remain faithful afterward, etc...none of that came into her mind. She just wanted the source of her problem gone forever, and then, in her deluded mind, her life would resume just as before and no one would have to know. When she knew exposure was coming, she lashed out first, in her infamous post.

But I do think Heather must have been still very much in the picture, to create the need for her death. Either that, or this case really is a Diane Zamora copy cat case...

JMO

Is it disturbing there are 2 IE charges (possibly) leading up to the 3rd location?
"3 times in the backseat of [HE's] car" - TM's Chernobyl post

* if TM knew EXACTLY where in the car SM and TM got together, don't you think she pressed for other details as well? Like where the car was parked?

 

[intothedeep]

Does the cheated on spouse usually want graphic details?
"...in the backseat..."
Maybe this is normal. I really don't know.

 

[AskMeNoQuestions]

Yes, found it on the Disboards today. It's March 7, 1998.

http://www.disboards.com/showpost.php?p=31023495&postcount=71

I'll bet they do her physical transfer from RJL to Georgetown on the anniversary.

 

[cluciano63]

Does the cheated on spouse usually want graphic details?
"...in the backseat..."
Maybe this is normal. I really don't know.

Sidney's way of minimizing the affair into a few sordid episodes, I guess...unless that is how he viewed their relationship. We really have no way of knowing how he felt, not even a tweet or a post. JMO

 

[jillycat]

Ya know, when a woman first finds out her husband has betrayed her, many emotions and thoughts go through her. Sometimes the thought of killing him, and/or the other woman will come to mind. And it's not like some women don't follow through with that thought, all you have to do is watch "Snapped" or "Deadly Women" to see of often is does happen. But most women, even if they have that thought at some point do not follow through with it. Most get their senses back and get rid of the cheater and find someone who is going to treat her like the princess she is.

Why risk your life, your freedom, your reputation to become a murderess and then keep the moron that started it all? Even if she got away with this one, Old Sidney probably would have found another HE down the line and TM would be right back in this same situation again. After all, once a cheater, always a cheater. IMO

This is why I think the image of the woman who 'snaps' is a myth. Women who commit these types of crimes are already operating on some badly written code in their psychological software, in my view. How many women maliciously hunt down and kill the spouse's lover, compared to those who don't? Most women ultimately lick their wounds and move on.

I think everyone, if they're honest, has had some fleeting thought of harming or severely punishing another person, or even killing them, in the split second imagery that so often arises in acute rage or deep hurt. It's when nothing in your DNA, moral fiber, or just plain sense of right vs wrong kicks in to regulate your thoughts, and stop them from becoming actions, that distinguishes most of us from that person who appears to 'snap', but never really had a functional adult monitor on station in their psyche.

TM is a malignant narcissist and the partner she chose has pathology compatible with her own. Someone was likely to end up dead at some point because they are essentially a toxic combination.

JMO

 

[Snowyowl]

I tried my business line and it did not get one call correct.

maybe it's like the "updated" news articles & disappearing things??I really don't know what to make of things. After that billboard I'm even wondering if a higher power intervention is at work.I guess it's a waiting game now!

 

[Seajay]

Sidney's way of minimizing the affair into a few sordid episodes, I guess...unless that is how he viewed their relationship. We really have no way of knowing how he felt, not even a tweet or a post. JMO

Tru Clu. At this point it's what TM is saying, we don't know if that's what she was told. However, I honestly don't see SM telling her, we did it about 100 times. Sometimes at the Holiday Inn, sometimes at the Motel 6, sometimes at Days Inn, sometimes at her parents house, sometimes in the park.....etc.

However, once TM found out about the affair, she might have grilled SM about details until she couldn't take no more. I think the wronged wife wants to know why he was attracted to her, when he did these things cuz she obviously thought he was elsewhere when he was having sex with her. She would want to know enough to keep an eye on him in the future to make sure he doesn't start it up again.

 

[CHERIE.T]

Until trial --when more facts are released-- all we can do is speculate.

 

[Jade127402]

This is why I think the image of the woman who 'snaps' is a myth. Women who commit these types of crimes are already operating on some badly written code in their psychological software, in my view. How many women maliciously hunt down and kill the spouse's lover, compared to those who don't? Most women ultimately lick their wounds and move on.

I think everyone, if they're honest, has had some fleeting thought of harming or severely punishing another person, or even killing them, in the split second imagery that so often arises in acute rage or deep hurt. It's when nothing in your DNA, moral fiber, or just plain sense of right vs wrong kicks in to regulate your thoughts, and stop them from becoming actions, that distinguishes most of us from that person who appears to 'snap', but never really had a functional adult monitor on station in their psyche.

TM is a malignant narcissist and the partner she chose has pathology compatible with her own. Someone was likely to end up dead at some point because they are essentially a toxic combination.

JMO

Totally agree with you there. If it had been my husband his A## would have been booted right out the door period. I would have been upset with the girl as well but mostly him. You have to look at Heather's age and most normal woman would look at her age. My god she is just a kid and I remember being young and you really don't always make the best decisions. She is a beautiful girl and what she ever saw in this guy is beyond me?? I hope if they are guilty which I think they are that they will start talking and they will find Heather. I pray for a miracle that she is alive! Prayers to her family.

 

[Snowyowl]

What's odd is she mentions they honeymooned in 1997, and also honeymooned in 1998.
IMOO.

I guess it depends-sometimes it may be hard to remember what lie you told beforehand. I don't know if searching marriage records might help sort out the truth.Or maybe they had 2 honeymoons-a quickie after marriage & a cruise later...

 

[Catlady2]

Isn't grid searching an active body of water, useless if you let time pass in between searches?

 

[Snowyowl]

Yes, found it on the Disboards today. It's March 7, 1998.

http://www.disboards.com/showpost.php?p=31023495&postcount=71

I suspect that was the closest saturday to TM's birthday since usually no weddings on sunday
http://www.dayoftheweek.org/?m=March&d=7&y=1998&go=Go

 

[Snowyowl]

Man wanted for impersonating law enforcement arrested

http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/24857...-man-wanted-for-impersonating-law-enforcement

 

[Snowyowl]

Isn't grid searching an active body of water, useless if you let time pass in between searches?

maybe they were hoping w/lowest low tides it might make it easier to search thru the muck?

 

[CHERIE.T]

Isn't grid searching an active body of water, useless if you let time pass in between searches?

I guess it depends on what they are searching for. If they are searching for evidence, maybe it sunk... idk, only pondering.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK64145/

Scroll down to substance abuse programs. There's 'A Voice of Experience' comment from a director in S.C., the only state where people who are in jail have to be treated through a state prison. Georgetown isn't a state prison but the link below lists medical care and then state and federal inmates assigned to Georgetown - something like that.

http://www.gcsheriff.org/detentioncenter.html


There are hippa laws that come into play with anything medical related. I'm wondering if TM was sent to Georgetown for treatment of some kind or to evaluate her mental state (jails don't do this in SC).
Because of privacy laws, they couldn't announce TM was leaving the Reuben jail for medical reasons.
What if she's still assigned to Reuben but being treated/assessed at Georgetown (it lists something about assisting state and federal).

It's late but I wanted to post because I found these links. The post isn't well thought out but I'm trying to figure out why TM is still listed under J. Reuben Detention Center and wondered if medical issues could be the reason.