SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 #26***ARREST**

[margarita25]

And, you are correct! The statement referenced is being taken out of context. This is how rumors get started and it's difficult enough dealing with the facts.

How are you holding up, LadyHawkke? Hugs to you. So glad the Ms are in custody!! Just need to get Heather home now. Tell us how we can help! Is there something in particular that maybe we can help sleuth?

 

[momrids6]

Yes they mentioned sled helping process evidence, I just feel that with the way Horry County is handling this investigation that any mention of DNA would be via press conference after LE and the family have discussed the info first, JMO based on what we have seen so far!

Based on what you have seen- not we- as PTF heard it, as well as documented the source and the reporter.
Most of the press has copies of the police reports, and their own sources.

 

[geevee]

Seems very odd that the revelation of such a significant piece of evidence would be tacked onto a story about a different missing person.

I was thinking the very same thing.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Isn't all the payphone talk rumor? Has it been confirmed by LE or anywhere in MSM?

Unless new info has come out between page three (with 100 posts each page) and where this post lands, the pay phone is rumor along with the lawsuit situation over TM's foot and payments stopping soon (she had already turned forty over a year ago). Isn't she turning 42 around now, on March 4 or the 8th? There are one or two other rumors too - oh, the one regarding the M's purchasing land in Florida (came from FB I guess but FB isn't a verifiable source) and another claiming that T was with S at the hospital.
Since we can't trust TM's claims anyway, we can't pick and choose which rumors to believe because they fit to incriminate. Especially when the storyline gets incorporated into a theory that takes on a life of its own as being true.

It bugs me how some rumors are allowed to fly while others are firmly shut down. Sometimes I wonder if those are the rumors that may be true.

 

[hockeymom4]

I was thinking the very same thing.

As am I. The Solicitor, Chief, Lt, and Det have all said how tight lipped they need to be about releasing things because it could effect the investigation. If and when this information were to be released (DNA in the car), I would expect it to be from one of them directly.

 

[jillycat]

Unless new info has come out between page three (with 100 posts each page) and where this post lands, the pay phone is rumor along with the lawsuit situation over TM's foot and payments stopping soon (she had already turned forty over a year ago). Isn't she turning 42 around now, on March 4 or the 8th? There are one or two other rumors too - oh, the one regarding the M's purchasing land in Florida - came from FB I guess but not a verifiable source and T being with S at the hospital and more.
Since we can't trust TM's claims anyway, we can't pick and choose which ones to believe either because they fit to incriminate. Especially when the storyline gets incorporated into a theory that takes on a life of its own as being true.

It bugs me how some rumors are allowed to fly while others are firmly shut down. Sometimes I wonder if those are the rumors that may be true.

JMO, but whether this remark re: DNA in the vehicles had been made or not in the news, there's a reason that LE took the vehicles and I think it's unlikely at least some of the DNA they said they found was not in the vehicles. The 'news' is consistent with what I thought anyway, so the story doesn't change much for me.

But I don't get near the other topics you mentioned. In particular, I think the image of the pay phone in the media piece, whether it turns out to be verified or not, is the equivalent of tabloid style 'reporting'.

Personally, I think the local news starts reading FB pages when it can't find actual news.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Tammy got a new truck in November correct? Was that when the trade-in occurred? Wasn't the new truck his guilt gift after Tammy found out about the affair?

I asked about this on the last thread. No response that I'm aware of but I'm posts behind.
Vehicle trade ins and/or selling or dumping an older one is always suspicious imo surrounding the time of a crime (when we hear that a suspect has done so).

Haven't read anything about TM's old vehicle.
I thought I read that the two vehicles LE took from the property, that at least one of them belongs to another family member.
Since LE hasn't specified, that info may be rumor too.

 

[Justice4Heather]

Based on what you have seen- not we- as PTF heard it, as well as documented the source and the reporter.
Most of the press has copies of the police reports, and their own sources.

Of course that is my opinion sorry for the way it came out

 

[momrids6]

Of course that is my opinion sorry for the way it came out

I don't recall anyone mentioning this information was supposed to be leaked- but it got out... by accident or on purpose... Jilly C already stated media may have loose lips; Cluciano63 provided the link that states LE affirmed DNA earlier... I <3 radio gives many of us access to SC stations

 

[Woe.be.gone]

JMO, but whether this remark re: DNA in the vehicles had been made or not in the news, there's a reason that LE took the vehicles and I think it's unlikely at least some of the DNA they said they found was not in the vehicles. The 'news' is consistent with what I thought anyway, so the story doesn't change much for me.

But I don't get near the other topics you mentioned. In particular, I think the image of the pay phone in the media piece, whether it turns out to be verified or not, is the equivalent of tabloid style 'reporting'.

Personally, I think the local news starts reading FB pages when it can't find actual news.

Sorry jillycat, have no clue what you're talking about as I've yet to read the posts about DNA having been found.
It is impossible for me to stay up-to-date lately. When I come to read, I think maybe there'll be breaking news on HE's case (since several other cases have had movement). But no such luck here. Just seems strange they made the arrests (quickly compared with some other cases) when the concrete evidence (other than circumstantial) remains vague.

 

[Justice4Heather]

I don't recall anyone mentioning this information was supposed to be leaked- but it got out... by accident or on purpose... Cluciano63 provided the link that states LE affirmed DNA earlier...

What im asking for is a link showing when LE stated it was found in a vehicle and gave confirmation that it was indeed Heather's DNA, thats all.

 

[jillycat]

Sorry jillycat, have no clue what you're talking about as I've yet to read the posts about DNA having been found.
It's become impossible for me to stay up-to-date lately. When I come to read, I think maybe there'll be breaking news on HE's case (since several other cases have had movement). But no such luck here. Just seems strange they made the arrests (quickly compared with some other cases) when the concrete evidence (other than circumstantial) remains vague.

Sorry, I thought your response re: the pay phone was related to the DNA posts that preceded your remark...because...rumors. In general.

Anyway, I try to stick to what's been in the news, or with stating my own opinion and calling it that.

Sorry for the confusion.

 

[JaelynKL]

And, you are correct! The statement referenced is being taken out of context. This is how rumors get started and it's difficult enough dealing with the facts.

Thank you LadyHawkke. Prayers and hugs for the family :heartbeat:

ETA: This was about the DNA.

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[cluciano63]

JMO, but I would guess LE had results back on Dna before the arrests...and that the results were part of what allowed them to charge them with murder.

 

[Justice4Heather]

JMO, but I would guess LE had results back on Dna before the arrests...and that the results were part of what allowed them to charge them with murder.

Yes and IMO that would mean the mention off sled helping process evidence they collected from the M's property the day they arrested them would be even more strong evidence towards the murder charge that Saturday. I hope,

 

[jillycat]

I hope Heather is found and that the prosecution of her case is successful, with the most appropriate punishment for the perpetrators.

 

[Ghostwheel]

Maybe blood, etc. was found in the trunk, if a truck has one? Or a place where a live person is unlikely to have been?

Well, IF Heather's DNA was found in one of their vehicles, and IF if was found in something like, say, a toolbox that stretches across the width of the truck bed, that would be an extremely unlikely place for a live person to have been. In addition, IF there were broken and bloody fingernails where a happen to still be alive person were trying to claw their way out, and IF there was other evidence showing that said contained person did not get out of said toolbox alive or there were tools in said toolbox with certain DNA on them indicating being used on anyone, that would be pretty condemning. That's just IF anything were found in that area that I was conjecturing on.
Just thinking out loud....

 

[cluciano63]

The more I think about it, it almost has to be true that they had Heather's DNA in places or types it would/should not normally be, before the murder charges. When charging murder without finding the victim, this would be one of the most solid ways to do so, IMO. They had time to match it up from the first search, the one(s) done early on.

 

[Justice4Heather]

The more I think about it, it almost has to be true that they had Heather's DNA in places or types it would/should not normally be, before the murder charges. When charging murder without finding the victim, this would be one of the most solid ways to do so, IMO. They had time to match it up from the first search, the one(s) done early on.

Then that makes me wonder what the warrants were granted for the day of the arrest? I wonder if they wanted a particular item that could have been a weapon or a chance to do another sweep of the house to see if the M's slipped up after the first search, bc well they aren't very bright, maybe they brought evidence, such as Heathers keys, phone or purse into the house, as a trophy? JMO

 

[cluciano63]

Then that makes me wonder what the warrants were granted for the day of the arrest? I wonder if they wanted a particular item that could have been a weapon or a chance to do another sweep of the house to see if the M's slipped up after the first search, bc well they aren't very bright, maybe they brought evidence, such as Heathers keys, phone or purse into the house, as a trophy? JMO

They may have been able to get a new warrant based on things found in the first search. Like maybe they found a shirt, for instance, which turned out to have Heather's DNA on it and they asked for a new warrant to take some other clothing items, or maybe to look for jewelry. And in the meantime, haul them in on whatever the financial charges are, plus obstruction. JMO