SC SC - Johnny Lamar Brown, 44, Myrtle Beach, 3 Aug 2012 - #1

[Orgona]

Hi Organa and welcome. I don't know that communication between the forum and the family has broken down. I can only speak for myself. If the family needs me, they know to call me, and I will do what I can to help, except as stated above. Their numbers can be found on the LE flier if you would like to contact them. I have just realized I can only do so much...and at this point I have health issues I have to put first, and I am tired. Good luck to you, and thanks for anything you feel you can do to help Johnny.

NonniB, I'm sorry for your health issues and I hope from here on you'll get better every single day.
I wasn't blaming you or any other posters for anything at all and I realize that you and many others have done everything possible and more to help Johnny's case and tried to help his family along the way.
Nowhere did I say that you haven't done enough. It must be something seriously wrong with how I express myself in English if my post made you feel that way.

What I see is that the family themselves will not be doing the reaching out, that's the reason I was stating the communication has broken down. It's clear to me that is not possible to force anyone to accept help or share info with the forum if they don't want to. You and many others have done already much for Johnny.
Unfortunately from the heart of Europe where I'm from I can't be much help for Johnny. I can only think with you all. I hope he will be found safe soon.

 

[writer7]

I found the pricing for an ad in The Sun, and the version that goes out to the south of MB, like Georgetown, is pretty reasonable. I'm going to take out an ad there for Johnny.

It'll be a little ad But folks may read it! If y'all have suggestions for how to shorten the info we need to convey, please throw them out here


Hey, it would be great if we could get a picture of Blackie or a dog that looks like Blackie, btw. If you can mention that to the family, I'd be much obliged. I'll help make up posters that have Blackie on them, and that might be what catches Johnny's eye! More people will notice, too, if there is a cute dog and a man on a poster. It's something different and personalizes Johnny, I think.

 

[writer7]

For the ad, locals please give your input.

http://ezads.thesunnews.com/myrtle-...l;jsessionid=F4C2EEE4E21DB30C52832F7B93ED1400

Would you choose South Strand Neighbors if you could only choose one (of the cheaper cities)? What about Central Neighbors? Have y'all ever seen these versions of The Sun around?

I'm not going to do an ad if it's all trash advertising, like massage parlors and escort services, lol. Please let me know if you think it's something helpful.

 

[Steely Dan]

I think it's really strange that Johnny has not been found. It's been over a month. How is it he was picked up by GPD the very night he goes missing ,but nothing since then?

It's been over two weeks since the last possible sightings that we know about.

Why haven't new tips come in?

I just hope he's safe and has food and shelter.

Given all the confusion I will stay out of it ,unless an organized group needs volunteers.

BBM

I hope it isn't a bad sign.

 

[Peekerfoo]

Thanks for the welcome everyone!

Oh Peekerfoo, I wasn't blaming you -or anyone else who communicated with the family- in any way and I hope it didn't sounded like I did. I know you did the best you could with what you had to work with. I just meant it must be something wrong with the sister's communication skills if you and the others could not follow what she was saying. Or this could be a family which is "coloring" the stories they are telling to others and that is the reason things were changing. This could be unbeknownst to them(I know some people like that), but could be intentional too.
His sister must have a lot on her plate if she runs her own business with employees and now having to worried about her lost brother and their sick mother too. I assume she doesn't have to many free time to deal with everything. I'm sure they are receiving a lot of different advise from a lot of people.

Truth be told many people were asking here on the forum and maybe elsewhere on the net or maybe even in person if they could set up a fund where people could contribute to their expenses and that could be the reason why they set up/or asked someone to set up that facebook page. I can't blame them for that. But when they did that, it seemingly became a problem to some. Although, I sure would like to see a page which is focused more on Johnny and the last verified sightings of him and where the dogs hit indicating he was once present and some more personal info about him and his abilities and the true nature of his disability. I would also love to see some modified pictures or sketches of him on it and good explanation about how to best approach him in case one spots him somewhere. Maybe some of the family does read here and can do something about it...

I understand what you're saying, Orgona. It's hard for the people who have spoken with the family to convey what it's been like for us. If we are too honest it comes off as we're being unsympathetic, but if we sugar coat it we don't feel like we're being fair to the rest of you who care about Johnny. I tend to try and be as honest as I can be and it may sound to some like I'm not trying to understand the family's plight. I do understand, but there is much else that I do NOT understand and that's where I have the problem. I can only say that if you haven't personally communicated with them, you have no idea how frustrating it can be. There is more I could say about that, but I won't. Let's suffiice it to say that those who have spoken with them are all pretty much in agreement on how difficult it is to understand why they do (or don't do) the very things that could bring their loved one home. I don't know the reasons for that. I have several guesses, but those are also best kept to myself...for now.

No hard feelings and, again, welcome.

 

[Peekerfoo]

For the ad, locals please give your input.

http://ezads.thesunnews.com/myrtle-...l;jsessionid=F4C2EEE4E21DB30C52832F7B93ED1400

Would you choose South Strand Neighbors if you could only choose one (of the cheaper cities)? What about Central Neighbors? Have y'all ever seen these versions of The Sun around?

I'm not going to do an ad if it's all trash advertising, like massage parlors and escort services, lol. Please let me know if you think it's something helpful.

What a fantastic idea,Writer 7! I would pick the South Strand Neighbors because he was last seen on the south end. Lots of full time residents live on the South Strand. I believe that residents who get the Sun News delivered south of here(like Pawleys Island, Litchfield etc) also get that section. :rocker:

 

[Peekerfoo]

BBM
How about putting placards up in your windows saying CARTERSVILLE or GEORGIA or some other word that he can see/read easily? I put them in all caps thinking maybe he learned to write that way and never changed to smaller letters. But then again they said he worked and had a paycheck. Does anyone know where he worked?

His pictures are all over MB and he hasn't gone up to them and pointed out that it was a picture of him, that we know of.

I bought the brightest neon yellow sheets of posterboard I could find today and I plan to work on those tonight. I will put the town and state on them because that's a good idea. I want them to look "friendly" to him. I'm trying to think of places to put them where homeless people might hang out because if he's with them it will be in the same places.. I was thinking of parks, convenience stores, etc.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

NonniB, I'm sorry for your health issues and I hope from here on you'll get better every single day.
I wasn't blaming you or any other posters for anything at all and I realize that you and many others have done everything possible and more to help Johnny's case and tried to help his family along the way.
Nowhere did I say that you haven't done enough. It must be something seriously wrong with how I express myself in English if my post made you feel that way.

What I see is that the family themselves will not be doing the reaching out, that's the reason I was stating the communication has broken down. It's clear to me that is not possible to force anyone to accept help or share info with the forum if they don't want to. You and many others have done already much for Johnny.
Unfortunately from the heart of Europe where I'm from I can't be much help for Johnny. I can only think with you all. I hope he will be found safe soon.

Orgona, I know you were just sharing info, and I agree with everything you said. I was absolutely not offended by what you said. You have great communication skills, and I am so glad you are here with us at WS. I'm looking forward to "sleuthing" with you. This is actually not the weirdest case here. I would suggest you look at Haleigh Cummings case, but nothing is happening now on the case. It's a long story...I'll explain later. LOL
BTW do you mind if I ask what country you're from? You don't have to say if you don't want to. I have a special country in Europe I just love. Sorry for O/T.

 

[katydid23]

I am wondering if he has left that area completely. There have been no more recent sightings. Could he have accepted a ride hoping to get closer to Atlanta?

 

[Peekerfoo]

I am wondering if he has left that area completely. There have been no more recent sightings. Could he have accepted a ride hoping to get closer to Atlanta?

I feel that's a very real (and scary) possibility. That's why a bigger audience is needed. I wish NG or JVM had picked up the story even if only to give him a quick blurb. Anything to get his picture and info out there would be helpful.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

You have described the experience perfectly. I think Julie's mind may be skipping around when she is getting info from LE or anyone else. I think she only catches bits and pieces when info is being relayed to her.
Back on Aug.24th ,post # 219 , I said this was like the game "Gossip" where the info is passed along to many people and by the end the info is completely different.

I never imagined when I got involved that it would become so confusing.
This should have been a quick and easy "find" in my opinion.

So many people have had contact with Johnny ,if more publicity had been done initially he would have been found by now.
JMO

ETA: not judging the family or MBPD. I'm sure everyone thought Johnny would have been found quickly.

I do still believe that both the family and LE know something about Johnny that we don't know ( although it's coming out in dribbles) and that is why we are so confused.
Whatever that thing is,it may be why Julie has backed away from us. Maybe asked too many questions or expected more than the family wanted to do.
I just don't know.

I agree, it seems there is just something the we are just not being told. The only thing that that the family has told me that I haven't posted here is that Johnny drinks a beer occasionally. Well, I do that! What's wrong with that, right? I didn't mention that because, to me "a beer" is a non-issue, in most cases. I don't know what else it could be.?

 

[Nonni Brenda]

I found the pricing for an ad in The Sun, and the version that goes out to the south of MB, like Georgetown, is pretty reasonable. I'm going to take out an ad there for Johnny.

It'll be a little ad But folks may read it! If y'all have suggestions for how to shorten the info we need to convey, please throw them out here


Hey, it would be great if we could get a picture of Blackie or a dog that looks like Blackie, btw. If you can mention that to the family, I'd be much obliged. I'll help make up posters that have Blackie on them, and that might be what catches Johnny's eye! More people will notice, too, if there is a cute dog and a man on a poster. It's something different and personalizes Johnny, I think.

Hi Writer. I think that is a great idea. If Julie calls me tomorrow like she said she would, I'll check wth her and go over and take the pic and post it here. thanks.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

I bought the brightest neon yellow sheets of posterboard I could find today and I plan to work on those tonight. I will put the town and state on them because that's a good idea. I want them to look "friendly" to him. I'm trying to think of places to put them where homeless people might hang out because if he's with them it will be in the same places.. I was thinking of parks, convenience stores, etc.

Peek, you're one in 10 million.:rocker:

 

[Nonni Brenda]

I understand what you're saying, Orgona. It's hard for the people who have spoken with the family to convey what it's been like for us. If we are too honest it comes off as we're being unsympathetic, but if we sugar coat it we don't feel like we're being fair to the rest of you who care about Johnny. I tend to try and be as honest as I can be and it may sound to some like I'm not trying to understand the family's plight. I do understand, but there is much else that I do NOT understand and that's where I have the problem. I can only say that if you haven't personally communicated with them, you have no idea how frustrating it can be. There is more I could say about that, but I won't. Let's suffiice it to say that those who have spoken with them are all pretty much in agreement on how difficult it is to understand why they do (or don't do) the very things that could bring their loved one home. I don't know the reasons for that. I have several guesses, but those are also best kept to myself...for now.

No hard feelings and, again, welcome.

I agree totally with everything you said...:back:

 

[Amster]

If the family or Mr. Brown applied for disability and it was denied....why is he described as disabled? Just because most people are turned down the 1st time doesn't automatically mean he would get disability if he applies again.

 

[MissJames]

I agree, it seems there is just something the we are just not being told. The only thing that that the family has told me that I haven't posted here is that Johnny drinks a beer occasionally. Well, I do that! What's wrong with that, right? I didn't mention that because, to me "a beer" is a non-issue, in most cases. I don't know what else it could be.?

Julie mentioned the beer and malt liquor to me also. They saw a chair with a can of malt liquor in a wooded area where homeless sometimes camp. She thought it could have been Johnny so OLG and I went back and checked.
Also ,OLG and I talked at length with a waitress in the Bar and Grill across the street from Surfside Beach Resort.
She recalled a young (22 yr old ,they carded him) white man buying a beer for an older black man. She and a co-worker she called,remembered it because the young man said his friend didn't have any ID but he was 40+. They discussed it and decided to go ahead and sell them the beer ,even though they are supposed to check everyone's age. We called Julie with the info and she asked if they remembered what Johnny drank,but the waitress didn't remember.
Julie was skeptical because "why would a white guy want to buy Johnny a beer?"
but the original tip of Johnny in front of that Bar and Grill came from Bellyup.

We were still in the Bar and Grill when Peekerfoo called with her sighting from the day before,which actually fit into the other places Johnny was seen .

We were just a day behind him. :banghead:

 

[MissJames]

I have to say,my own "Johnny" has been very entertaining this afternoon and I realize how very blessed I am that he is safe at home with me.

He had a seizure Friday at school and my husband picked him up .He slept the rest of the day in my lap ,and I couldn't help but wonder what if Johnny needs help or medical attention?

He really does need to be found .That's the bottom line.

 

[MissJames]

I bought the brightest neon yellow sheets of posterboard I could find today and I plan to work on those tonight. I will put the town and state on them because that's a good idea. I want them to look "friendly" to him. I'm trying to think of places to put them where homeless people might hang out because if he's with them it will be in the same places.. I was thinking of parks, convenience stores, etc.

bus stops ? Fast food places ,the entrance to "the hill" :what:

You really are a trooper. I can come help Thursday .We could hit Soccaste and Georgetown.
My son has a dr appt tomorrow.

Take a picture of your signs and post it here :woohoo:

 

[TxLady2]

I understand what you're saying, Orgona. It's hard for the people who have spoken with the family to convey what it's been like for us. If we are too honest it comes off as we're being unsympathetic, but if we sugar coat it we don't feel like we're being fair to the rest of you who care about Johnny. I tend to try and be as honest as I can be and it may sound to some like I'm not trying to understand the family's plight. I do understand, but there is much else that I do NOT understand and that's where I have the problem. I can only say that if you haven't personally communicated with them, you have no idea how frustrating it can be. There is more I could say about that, but I won't. Let's suffiice it to say that those who have spoken with them are all pretty much in agreement on how difficult it is to understand why they do (or don't do) the very things that could bring their loved one home. I don't know the reasons for that. I have several guesses, but those are also best kept to myself...for now.

No hard feelings and, again, welcome.

Pardon me for butting in, but:
None of you have come off unsympathetic to me!! Just wanted you and the others to understand that. I think it's marvelous what you all have done and are still doing. This is for Johnny. He's the one who needs your help and the one we care about so deeply. You have all gone way above and beyond, and if I lived closer I would be right there beside you helping out.

 

[Peekerfoo]

If the family or Mr. Brown applied for disability and it was denied....why is he described as disabled? Just because most people are turned down the 1st time doesn't automatically mean he would get disability if he applies again.

I don't know too much about disablity, but I do have a neighbor that lost both of her legs to a flesh eating type of bacteria and she was denied the first time! She got it on the second attempt.