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SC SC - Mount Pleasant, near Wando Bridge, Blk/WhtMale 14-19, UP8421, skull, est DOD '00-'06, Aug'06
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Missing since September 1, 1999 from Hemingway, Georgetown County, South Carolina
Classification: Endangered Missing
Vital Statistics
Circumstances of Disappearance
Dale was last seen at a family member's residence, in the vicinity of the 4200 block of Carvers Bay Road, in Hemingway, SC.
He was later sighted in October 1999 in Georgia.
His gray 1999 Oldsmobile Alero Coupe was later located at an apartment complex in Daytona Beach, FL.
Investigators
If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
Georgetown County Sheriff's Office
843-436-6055
Agency Case Number: 01000758
NCIC Number: M-200435888
Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.
Source Information:
Namus
Classification: Endangered Missing
Vital Statistics
[*]Date Of Birth: August 19, 1978
[*]Age at Time of Disappearance: 21 years old
[*]Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'6"; 160 lbs.
[*]Distinguishing Characteristics: Black male. Black hair; brown eyes.
[*]Marks, Scars: Tattoo of the name "Leary" on upper arm, previously fractured nose.
Circumstances of Disappearance
Dale was last seen at a family member's residence, in the vicinity of the 4200 block of Carvers Bay Road, in Hemingway, SC.
He was later sighted in October 1999 in Georgia.
His gray 1999 Oldsmobile Alero Coupe was later located at an apartment complex in Daytona Beach, FL.
Investigators
If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
Georgetown County Sheriff's Office
843-436-6055
Agency Case Number: 01000758
NCIC Number: M-200435888
Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.
Source Information:
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Dale Leary
Wow. Great find, jacobd83.
Wow. Great find, jacobd83.
Dale Leary
Wow. Great find, jacobd83.
I think I'm going to submit him as a possiable match
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Dale Leary is a really good match. I think the age progression of Desmond Santonio Dix also closely resembles the Mount Pleasant composite. Too bad the one photo they have is so blurry.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dix_desmond.html
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dix_desmond.html
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Desmond Dix
Yes. The eyes are very similar.
Yes. The eyes are very similar.
Was about to make a thread for this doe, but I just saw that one already exists.
I did a search in NamUS for black males between the ages of 10 and 25 missing before August 1, 2006, and I noticed Dale Leary right away. Additionally, I agree with Desmond Dix being a potential match. I have been following Desmond's case for almost five years now and when I stumbled upon MPJD, I immediately thought of him.
Here are some others I thought were noteworthy; in addition to the parameters I specified above, I picked out a few that I thought were the closest to the demographics of this victim, particularly those who went missing from SC or NC who were in their early teens to twenties. Since there isn't much to go by, I think we can be a little bit lenient in terms of whether or not a missing person matches up perfectly to the estimates made about the remains, seeing as they've already incorrectly identified this person as being a member of the wrong sex.
Mike Borges (17, 2005, NC): The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Missing from a close by state, but still more than three hours away from where the remains were found, and he is thought to have traveled north to NJ rather than south to SC. Age matches up well.
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Travis Lynch (24, 2003, NC): The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
He was last seen four hours away from the discovery site, and his age is far out of the estimated age range. However, if they are basing the age range primarily on dental information and the fact that only two of MPJD's wisdom teeth were not yet erupted, some people get their wisdom teeth as late as 25, and it should be noted that two of MPJD's wisdom teeth presumably had already erupted (#17 and #32) so he might not have been too far off from adulthood. Another thing: Travis is very small for a male (5'4)--this is a total shot in the dark, but perhaps that played into the misidentification of this body as being female, even though most of the body was not recovered.
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Antwon Williams (20, 1998, SC): The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
He went missing from as little as 18 minutes away from where the skull was found, but he is out of the estimated age range and went missing two years before the earliest estimated year of death.
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Toby Bing and Shawn Jones (18/22, 1999, SC): The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) and The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Toby almost matches up perfectly with the age range, and I still think that it's not completely out of the question that MPJD could be a bit older than the estimate.
Chrissy Beard (case #2369), Terence Washington (1609), Abdul'Nur Williams (6819), Kawan Pryor (1789), and Lamarst Porter (2216) all perfectly or almost perfectly match up with MPJD in terms of age and went missing within a few years of the age estimate, but they all went missing a great distance from Mount Pleasant, so I'm not quite as sure about them.
This is assuming that none of these people have already been ruled out--I am unable to find the rule-out list for this UID or any UID case on NamUS since the redesign. Kevin McClam would have been my first pick had it not been for Jake479 pointing out that he has been excluded.
I did a search in NamUS for black males between the ages of 10 and 25 missing before August 1, 2006, and I noticed Dale Leary right away. Additionally, I agree with Desmond Dix being a potential match. I have been following Desmond's case for almost five years now and when I stumbled upon MPJD, I immediately thought of him.
Here are some others I thought were noteworthy; in addition to the parameters I specified above, I picked out a few that I thought were the closest to the demographics of this victim, particularly those who went missing from SC or NC who were in their early teens to twenties. Since there isn't much to go by, I think we can be a little bit lenient in terms of whether or not a missing person matches up perfectly to the estimates made about the remains, seeing as they've already incorrectly identified this person as being a member of the wrong sex.
Mike Borges (17, 2005, NC): The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Missing from a close by state, but still more than three hours away from where the remains were found, and he is thought to have traveled north to NJ rather than south to SC. Age matches up well.
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Travis Lynch (24, 2003, NC): The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
He was last seen four hours away from the discovery site, and his age is far out of the estimated age range. However, if they are basing the age range primarily on dental information and the fact that only two of MPJD's wisdom teeth were not yet erupted, some people get their wisdom teeth as late as 25, and it should be noted that two of MPJD's wisdom teeth presumably had already erupted (#17 and #32) so he might not have been too far off from adulthood. Another thing: Travis is very small for a male (5'4)--this is a total shot in the dark, but perhaps that played into the misidentification of this body as being female, even though most of the body was not recovered.
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Antwon Williams (20, 1998, SC): The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
He went missing from as little as 18 minutes away from where the skull was found, but he is out of the estimated age range and went missing two years before the earliest estimated year of death.
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Toby Bing and Shawn Jones (18/22, 1999, SC): The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) and The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Toby almost matches up perfectly with the age range, and I still think that it's not completely out of the question that MPJD could be a bit older than the estimate.
Chrissy Beard (case #2369), Terence Washington (1609), Abdul'Nur Williams (6819), Kawan Pryor (1789), and Lamarst Porter (2216) all perfectly or almost perfectly match up with MPJD in terms of age and went missing within a few years of the age estimate, but they all went missing a great distance from Mount Pleasant, so I'm not quite as sure about them.
This is assuming that none of these people have already been ruled out--I am unable to find the rule-out list for this UID or any UID case on NamUS since the redesign. Kevin McClam would have been my first pick had it not been for Jake479 pointing out that he has been excluded.
Another one: Farrika Brown (18) went missing from Lancaster, SC and is close to the estimated age range of the victim; however, we went missing in 1995, and it's believed that our Doe was dead no more than five or six years before his remains were found in 2006. I still think Farrika is noteworthy enough to mention here, though: The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Like I said before, I can't figure out where the exclusions lists are anymore. I think that several of the names that I've listed have probably been ruled out already.
Like I said before, I can't figure out where the exclusions lists are anymore. I think that several of the names that I've listed have probably been ruled out already.
Bumping.
Someone on another website pointed out the Antwon Jones connection. The age is slightly wrong, but like I've said before, this person was already wrongly labeled as a female, and the circumstances of Antwon's disappearance are the most likely to coincide with this John Doe case, in my opinion.
Someone on another website pointed out the Antwon Jones connection. The age is slightly wrong, but like I've said before, this person was already wrongly labeled as a female, and the circumstances of Antwon's disappearance are the most likely to coincide with this John Doe case, in my opinion.
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Bumping case up. Who could this young man be?
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Bumping case up. Did any of you end up submitting any possibilities? Can anyone list rule-outs?
Poor guy, so young
Poor guy, so young
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MP2258Bumping case up. Did any of you end up submitting any possibilities? Can anyone list rule-outs?
Poor guy, so young
Michael Borges
04/30/2005
Cumberland
NC
MP5600
Harrison Butler Sr
06/12/1988
Sumter
SC
MP289
Antwon Williams
08/24/1998
Charleston
SC
MP6375
Kevin McClam
03/30/1997
Berkeley
SC
MP6239
Lakisha Jones
12/15/1999
Davidson
TN
MP2533
Sherri Truesdale
06/13/1970
Forsyth
NC
Has Eddie Tillman been ruled out? He was last seen on a train with an older male. I think the nose looks quite spot on.
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Not that I can tell. He's not listed as a rule out on namus.
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Bumping case up. His NamUs profile:
Unidentified Person / NamUs #UP8421
Male, Black / African American
Date Body Found: August 20, 2006
Location Found: Mount Pleasant, South Car
olina
Estimated Age Group: Adult - Pre 20
Estimated Age Range (Years): 14-19
Estimated Year of Death: 2000-2006
Circumstances of Recovery:
Human skull found near bridge
Published on 08/22/06 in the Post & Courier
Staff report
MOUNT PLEASANT A family on a fishing excursion Sunday afternoon found a human skull near the base of the Wando Bridge, authorities said.
The Charleston County Coroner's Office confirmed the skull was human, but did not know how long it had been there. Testing was expected to take at least a week, Deputy Coroner Dottie Lindsay said. An initial inspection did not reveal any obvious signs of trauma.
A Mount Pleasant couple and their two sons, ages 10 and 11, were in their small boat when the husband spotted a black object on the shoreline around 2 p.m., according to a police report. At first he thought it was an anchor.
After calling 911, the husband scooped up the skull with a life preserver and moved it farther up the bank so the rising tide would not carry it away, the report states. The family met Mount Pleasant police officers at Remley's Point boat landing and took them back to the spot.
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Unidentified Person / NamUs #UP8421
Male, Black / African American
Date Body Found: August 20, 2006
Location Found: Mount Pleasant, South Car
olina
Estimated Age Group: Adult - Pre 20
Estimated Age Range (Years): 14-19
Estimated Year of Death: 2000-2006
Circumstances of Recovery:
Human skull found near bridge
Published on 08/22/06 in the Post & Courier
Staff report
MOUNT PLEASANT A family on a fishing excursion Sunday afternoon found a human skull near the base of the Wando Bridge, authorities said.
The Charleston County Coroner's Office confirmed the skull was human, but did not know how long it had been there. Testing was expected to take at least a week, Deputy Coroner Dottie Lindsay said. An initial inspection did not reveal any obvious signs of trauma.
A Mount Pleasant couple and their two sons, ages 10 and 11, were in their small boat when the husband spotted a black object on the shoreline around 2 p.m., according to a police report. At first he thought it was an anchor.
After calling 911, the husband scooped up the skull with a life preserver and moved it farther up the bank so the rising tide would not carry it away, the report states. The family met Mount Pleasant police officers at Remley's Point boat landing and took them back to the spot.
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Any thoughts on TB? He disappeared from South Carolina in 1999, 18-years-old . Sounds like foul play. However I don't think he looks a lot like the reconstruction.
Just to note, TB disappeared with EDJ, age 22. However, IMO EDJ also doesn't match the reconstruction. (I mention them mainly because of South Carolina.)
TLH could be considered, IMO.
Age 15, missing from Ohio in 1999.
Someone has already mentioned DL.
He has a link to South Carolina.
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Just to note, TB disappeared with EDJ, age 22. However, IMO EDJ also doesn't match the reconstruction. (I mention them mainly because of South Carolina.)
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
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TLH could be considered, IMO.
Age 15, missing from Ohio in 1999.
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
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Someone has already mentioned DL.
He has a link to South Carolina.
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
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