Prosecution has quite the damning evidence against defendant. Will be very interested in ballistics. moo
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Anyone know if MM message texted to a friend saying that AM behavior felt "fishy" and that he's up to something has been mentioned during trial yet? Also, were there other text message from MM concerning AM's behavior? TIA
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Alex Murdaugh Allegedly Lured Wife to Cabin on Night She Was Killed — and She Texted Friend It Seemed 'Fishy'
Murdaugh was charged Thursday in connection with the 2021 murders of his wife and son, but his lawyers say he's innocent
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Yes and no. That's the story from the defence. I'm curious to see the facts around the time that Alex left the house, and how Maggie's cell phone travelled from the kennels to where it was found. Did the phone travel directly from the kennel to where it was found?
"Harpootlian then tried to poke holes in Waters’ assertions about the cell phone records.
“Now the cell phone records, and you’re going to hear this from their own experts, are incomplete,” Harpootlian said. He said they found Maggie’s cell phone the night of the killing on the side of the road about a half-mile or so away from the crime scene. “They found it by using ‘Find My iPhone.’ ...
Harpootlian also said cellphone data will show that at 9:06 p.m., as he cranks his car and telemetry data shows his phone connecting with his car, Maggie’s phone was being thrown on the side of the road almost a half-mile away.
“Now that is Houdini. That is magic. That is inexplicable,” he said."
link“Now the cell phone records, and you’re going to hear this from their own experts, are incomplete,” Harpootlian said. He said they found Maggie’s cell phone the night of the killing on the side of the road about a half-mile or so away from the crime scene. “They found it by using ‘Find My iPhone.’ ...
Harpootlian also said cellphone data will show that at 9:06 p.m., as he cranks his car and telemetry data shows his phone connecting with his car, Maggie’s phone was being thrown on the side of the road almost a half-mile away.
“Now that is Houdini. That is magic. That is inexplicable,” he said."
I'm inclined to believe that Maggie's phone was found using the tracking app that Buster and Maggie shared, which the defence describes as "find my phone."
"[Maggie] knew of [her sons] whereabouts at all times, and they knew hers. In fact, Buster had an app on his phone that showed his mother’s location through her phone. It is this app that helped investigators locate her discarded phone in the woods."
linkBut was the truck at the house when it was started according to the defense statement? Perhaps the black box will tell if that's true but I have a sneaky feeling that DH wouldn't have made that factual statement if it could have been disproved by the black box data.
It's entirely possible AM drove the 1/2 mile or so with his phone either in DH's famous faraday bag (or some other way maybe battery out), shut the suburban off, tossed the phone and then removed the phone from the bag and restarted the car with the phone pairing to it. jmo
Edited to add the battery out part.
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There was so much blood, prosecutors questioned how Murdaugh, who reported finding the bodies, could have touched them and not been covered in it.
They played uncut 9-1-1 calls of Murdaugh telling dispatchers he’d tried to get a pulse from Paul and Maggie. They also showed jurors a videotaped interview with investigators in which he says he attempted to roll Paul over.
Law enforcement who've take the witness stand so far, have reported seeing no blood on his clothing.
Colleton County Sheriff’s Office Detective Laura Rutland testified she had taken note of Murdaugh's clean clothes and was asked by the prosecution if it looked as though he'd changed them.
“He is sweating, and they are dry. So, I'd say yes," answered Rutland.
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Tears, first responders didn't see, flow during week one of Alex Murdaugh murder trial
There was so much blood, prosecutors questioned how Murdaugh, who reported finding the bodies, could have touched them and not been covered in it.
They played uncut 9-1-1 calls of Murdaugh telling dispatchers he’d tried to get a pulse from Paul and Maggie. They also showed jurors a videotaped interview with investigators in which he says he attempted to roll Paul over.
Law enforcement who've take the witness stand so far, have reported seeing no blood on his clothing.
Colleton County Sheriff’s Office Detective Laura Rutland testified she had taken note of Murdaugh's clean clothes and was asked by the prosecution if it looked as though he'd changed them.
“He is sweating, and they are dry. So, I'd say yes," answered Rutland.
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Tears, first responders didn't see, flow during week one of Alex Murdaugh murder trial
The law enforcement source tells PEOPLE that blood spatter allegedly found on Alex Murdaugh's clothes indicates he was at the scene at the time of the murder, and not visiting his father at the hospital, as he later claimed.
Additionally, the source says that Murdaugh's cell phone, watch, and vehicle GPS also contradict his assertion that he was continually with his father at the hospital. Investigators say that Murdaugh lured Maggie to the scene, saying that he wanted to go with her to visit his ailing father, with whom she was very close.
On her way to the house, Maggie allegedly messaged a friend, saying that something about her husband's behavior felt "fishy," the law enforcement source says. "He's up to something," Maggie allegedly wrote to her friend.
Perhaps the biggest piece of evidence that law enforcement has is cell phone audio and video that appears to place Murdaugh at the scene, talking with Maggie just moments before she was killed.
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Additionally, the source says that Murdaugh's cell phone, watch, and vehicle GPS also contradict his assertion that he was continually with his father at the hospital. Investigators say that Murdaugh lured Maggie to the scene, saying that he wanted to go with her to visit his ailing father, with whom she was very close.
On her way to the house, Maggie allegedly messaged a friend, saying that something about her husband's behavior felt "fishy," the law enforcement source says. "He's up to something," Maggie allegedly wrote to her friend.
Perhaps the biggest piece of evidence that law enforcement has is cell phone audio and video that appears to place Murdaugh at the scene, talking with Maggie just moments before she was killed.
Inside the 'Mountain of Evidence' that Police Say Proves Alex Murdaugh Killed His Wife & Son
Alex Murdaugh is accused of murdering his wife and son, but his lawyers say he's innocent
"But then when you take the shirt for testing under a microscope, there appears to be very fine blood spatter, which is invisible to the naked eye, and that's why we do ballistics and blood spatter test," she continued.
Stay in the know:What we know, and don't know, about the Alex Murdaugh crime saga
At times, Murdaugh looked like the attorney he used to be, entering the courtroom carrying a large folder of files, reviewing documents, chatting and smiling with a young blond female on the legal team. At one point, he shook his head no as the judge read the charges against him.
Judge Newman read a list of 254 potential witnesses that may be called to testify.
Several members of Maggie Murdaugh's family may be called, as well as Buster Murdaugh and John Marvin Murdaugh. At least one boat crash survivor, Morgan Doughty, may testify.
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At times, Murdaugh looked like the attorney he used to be, entering the courtroom carrying a large folder of files, reviewing documents, chatting and smiling with a young blond female on the legal team. At one point, he shook his head no as the judge read the charges against him.
Judge Newman read a list of 254 potential witnesses that may be called to testify.
Several members of Maggie Murdaugh's family may be called, as well as Buster Murdaugh and John Marvin Murdaugh. At least one boat crash survivor, Morgan Doughty, may testify.
Alex Murdaugh murder trial: Recapping Week 1. What happened in court and what's to come.
The first week of the Alex Murdaugh murder trial has come to an end in Colleton County, SC. Take a look at what happen and what to expect in week 2.
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COLLETON COUNTY, S.C. (FOX Carolina) - A motion filed by Alex Murdaugh’s defense attorneys to block blood spatter testimony in his murder trial outlines new details about the night Maggie and Paul Murdaugh were killed.
Graphic: Court documents reveal new details in Murdaugh murders
The 62 page Document:
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23580607/murdaugh-motion-for-sanctions.pdf
Graphic: Court documents reveal new details in Murdaugh murders
The 62 page Document:
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23580607/murdaugh-motion-for-sanctions.pdf
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From your link ...
What stands out for me is that Paul's head exploded - so he no longer has a head - and his father is fooling around with the body, allegedly looking for a pulse rather than passing out, vomiting, or reacting in any way that would indicate shock and horror. He even admits to chucking the phone on his son's body rather than putting it aside and explaining that he moved the phone.
"The blast to Paul’s head exploded his skull leaving his brain at his feet.
... Murdaugh telling dispatchers he’d tried to get a pulse from Paul and Maggie. They also showed jurors a videotaped interview with investigators in which he says he attempted to roll Paul over."
... Murdaugh telling dispatchers he’d tried to get a pulse from Paul and Maggie. They also showed jurors a videotaped interview with investigators in which he says he attempted to roll Paul over."
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Is the defense is saying that it's not necessarily blood on his shirt, but if it is blood, it's not spatter, it's transfer blood, from (wiping his hands after) touching his wife and son's bodies for pulses?
Except officers are testifying and video appears to confirm that the shirt AM is wearing has no blood on it.
Is the defense prepared to concede that there are two shirts? How are they going to explain the wardrobe change? He checked for pulses (sure he did), then drove (?) to the house to get a gun and spiffy up? As one does.
So, so many problems for the defense.
Faraday bags and pork 'n beans. Reeks of desperation to me.
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Looked at maps 1/2 mile from location of crime scene driving takes 1 minute. If you are speeding it would take less time.
One minute is sixty seconds so it’s possible to say that one phone turning on and another turning off in the same minute.
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One minute is sixty seconds so it’s possible to say that one phone turning on and another turning off in the same minute.
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No yet. I don't expect we will hear about this text until the day the friend is called to testify. JMOAnyone know if MM message texted to a friend saying that AM behavior felt "fishy" and that he's up to something has been mentioned during trial yet? Also, were there other text message from MM concerning AM's behavior? TIA
Alex Murdaugh Allegedly Lured Wife to Cabin on Night She Was Killed — and She Texted Friend It Seemed 'Fishy'
Murdaugh was charged Thursday in connection with the 2021 murders of his wife and son, but his lawyers say he's innocent
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Do we know if MM's phone was found along the road that still borders the Murdaugh property? I am thinking that since 1/2 mile is a short distance on a large property like that, DH may be using "by the house" (AM's truck starting) to be a very vague reference. He wants people to infer he means literally by the house, like 10 or 20 feet away. But in reality he may mean by the propery in general. I think he's being vague on purpose to confuse the actual, physical location. MOO.
As a Southerner, it's like saying, "over yonder, by the house", which is vague and could encompass a decent-sized area. Imo.
I'm confused about the shirts. If AM changed out of a shirt covered with blood into a fresh shirt we saw in the SLED interview then which shirt was tested? The clean white shirt couldn't have had blood or blood spatter on it from the shootings. If the tested the other shirt where did they find it?
And what is this about the defense claiming the shirt was destroyed?
What really blows my mind is if LE decided that night AM was guilty wouldn't they be smart enough to go search the house when they see a clean and dry AM?
Perhaps this is DH’s plan....just confuse one juror. He's a slippery one.
Can someone enlighten me?
And what is this about the defense claiming the shirt was destroyed?
What really blows my mind is if LE decided that night AM was guilty wouldn't they be smart enough to go search the house when they see a clean and dry AM?
Perhaps this is DH’s plan....just confuse one juror. He's a slippery one.
Can someone enlighten me?
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I had seen it opined that perhaps AM's white tshirt (wearing when LE arrived) had been worn under the raincoat (with gunshot residue) that was later found at his mother's house. MOO.
I have no idea, though. It is confusing because he looks freshly laundered and one of the LE people said he (AM) was sweating but looked clean. And I would think in that humidity, if AM had been wearing the tshirt under a raincoat (which are usually treated to make them water resistant, at a minimum, but also makes you more likely to sweat, imo), he would have appeared more sweaty or damp as far as the shirt was concerned.
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Eta: Otoh, if it's one of the heavy weight cotton tees, those retain their shape/look even under various circumstances (rain, sweat, etc.). And sweat wouldn't be as apparent on a white tee as it would on a darker tee. All imo.
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If his Chevy Suburban had the remote start feature, he could have used the Chevy smartphone app to start the car and get his A/C running before he got in.
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Perhaps Alex wore a raincoat during the murders, which kept his clothing mostly clean? I don't know how he could keep his shoes clean if he was fooling around with Paul's headless body. This is graphic [WARNING], but, without a head, there would be arterial spray from Paul's neck.
Alex had a lot of time alone after the murders, and he could have hidden something somewhere on the property where it would not be found.
"Waters, the prosecutor, says that roughly a week after the murders Alex Murdaugh showed up early in the morning at his parents home where his mother has late-stage Alzheimer’s.
Waters describes how Murdaugh was seen carrying something blue upstairs. The prosecutor says police investigators discovered a rain coat wadded up inside of a blue tarp inside Murdaugh’s mother’s house. He says Police discovered gunshot residue inside the rain coat."
Waters describes how Murdaugh was seen carrying something blue upstairs. The prosecutor says police investigators discovered a rain coat wadded up inside of a blue tarp inside Murdaugh’s mother’s house. He says Police discovered gunshot residue inside the rain coat."
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If this is a fact it does make you think Alec had help. There is no doubt in my mind he’s responsible, but I have wondered if his cuz assisted either as one shooter, or for both. Just not sure AM has the nautz to pull trigger looking his son in the face and taking down Maggie like a deer. MOO.
One thing that I also have wondered about was how he was able to maintain his composure at his mother’s house, in front of the caregiver, and in the several phone calls during his drives back and forth to Almeada. I image his adrenaline was pumping — that makes my voice shakey.
I don’t care how much of a sociopath, despicable, scoundrel he is, I think a certain amount of his tears are from his new reality. I doubt his fantasy of the shootings included pieces of brain and body tissue blown everywhere. MOO. MOO.
I reserve the right to tweak my opinions later!
EDIT: Like with @gremlin444 ’s thought on “remote start” \/\/
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