GUILTY SC - Tiffany Souers, 20, Clemson student, found strangled, 26 May 2006

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I think that the killer must have gone to ATM's where he frequents or feels most comfortable. He certainly was prepared, wasn't he? Who carries extra bandanas with them?? Wouldn't you think that the killer would drive somewhere far away to try and use the card to withdraw money--unless he didn't readily know of any other area.

Does anyone think that Tiffany was familiar with this guy (like the guy who lived in the complex and was a grad student at Clemson) and that this guy asked to borrow her phone or somehow talked his way into her apartment that night?

If he lived in the complex, he may have known her routine and that she was alone. He may have watched her coming and going and waited for her to get home that evening.

The only thing that perplexes me is that she was on the phone 30 minutes after she arrived home. Do you think that the guy could have broken into her apartment and bounced on her as she was undressing for bed?
 
The friend, Faith, said she had called the police/tipline 5 times and she was afraid to tell greta who it was because he was still loose. She said she talked to the cops 2 times but that she had received some more info yesterday and had tried to call the tipline/it was busy so she called the police station and got voice mail so she left a message. Anyway, Greta told the cops to call this woman...maybe they will.
 
Update from the news just now.
100 tips have come in using the tip line.

Said the person wore the bandanas at a custume party, if I heard correctly..
 
Wudge said:
GM could tell what the model and year is. In about three years, someone in LE will get a brainstorm and ask them, instant promotion of course.
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In this link, it sounds like GM has weighed in on the model:

Also shown in surveillance photos are hood and grill portions of the suspect's vehicle, which Ariail said General Motors experts identified as a GMC or Chevy Blazer-type two-door SUV made between the years 1982 and 1994.
 
richandfamous said:
The friend, Faith, said she had called the police/tipline 5 times and she was afraid to tell greta who it was because he was still loose. She said she talked to the cops 2 times but that she had received some more info yesterday and had tried to call the tipline/it was busy so she called the police station and got voice mail so she left a message. Anyway, Greta told the cops to call this woman...maybe they will.
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It was interesting. I watched the repeat of the show. Greta first asked the other girl if she knew of anyone who could do this- the answer was no. Then she asked Faith if she knew if the police had any suspects.... (or a question like that, not directly asking her if she knew WHO had done it).. and she hesitated.. and said No. Then Greta, looking a little lost, said... "Well, we're going to take a quick break be right back"...
When they came back from commercial, she asked Faith if she knew who may have done this... straight out like that... and Faith said "YES". She said she had called 4 or 5 different times trying to tell the police, and it was my impression that they either didn't take her serious, or they weren't getting back to her.

So Greta says "CLEMSON POLICE, CALL FAITH!"
 
mssheila said:
It was interesting. I watched the repeat of the show. Greta first asked the other girl if she knew of anyone who could do this- the answer was no. Then she asked Faith if she knew if the police had any suspects.... (or a question like that, not directly asking her if she knew WHO had done it).. and she hesitated.. and said No. Then Greta, looking a little lost, said... "Well, we're going to take a quick break be right back"...
When they came back from commercial, she asked Faith if she knew who may have done this... straight out like that... and Faith said "YES". She said she had called 4 or 5 different times trying to tell the police, and it was my impression that they either didn't take her serious, or they weren't getting back to her.

So Greta says "CLEMSON POLICE, CALL FAITH!"
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Wow, u said it better than I did...yes, that's what happened except that Faith also said she was afraid for her safety and did not want to name the suspect on tv.
 
On Studio B- the friend Faith says that Tiffany had come into contact with a "local harasser" several times. She can't rule this person out (even with the surveillance picture) and she seems to think that this "harasser" could be the killer. They say people who know him may be talking to the police to tell them where he is.

It sounds like this guy is well known in that area. Faith said she thinks there will be an arrest soon.

ETA: 8:54 PM

I just saw Faith on "The Line Up". She did say clearly that the ATM photos and the description of the vehicle still could be the guy that she suspects.

I just want to say this.. I sincerely hope she's pointing her finger at the right guy. The reason I say this is that she is really talking a LOT about someone who hasn't even been arrested yet. She hasn't said his name, but she's been on every major national network now giving the town a pretty good idea who this person is. However, she is the only person who's pointing at him publicly. Her other friends have said no such thing, even when they're on TV standing right next to Faith.

She's said he's a married man with children, and he acts incredibly inappropriate with females. She says that she's had multiple conversations with other people about him both before and after the murder... and he's the "town harasser", in her words. He's been the subject of much gossip... Many people will likely know exactly who she suspects has done this to Tiffany.


If he's not the guy... he has been slandered in the WORST way. I guess what I'm saying is... someone should tell Faith that she's gotten her message across now. She needs to leave the rest to the police. If she's wrong, she could get in pretty big trouble for going on all these shows talking about a local man who may be totally innocent..... :eek: :twocents:

This is all JMO!
 
mssheila said:
On Studio B- the friend Faith says that Tiffany had come into contact with a "local harasser" several times. She can't rule this person out (even with the surveillance picture) and she seems to think that this "harasser" could be the killer. They say people who know him may be talking to the police to tell them where he is.

It sounds like this guy is well known in that area. Faith said she thinks there will be an arrest soon.

ETA: 8:54 PM

I just saw Faith on "The Line Up". She did say clearly that the ATM photos and the description of the vehicle still could be the guy that she suspects.

I just want to say this.. I sincerely hope she's pointing her finger at the right guy. The reason I say this is that she is really talking a LOT about someone who hasn't even been arrested yet. She hasn't said his name, but she's been on every major national network now giving the town a pretty good idea who this person is. However, she is the only person who's pointing at him publicly. Her other friends have said no such thing, even when they're on TV standing right next to Faith.

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This is all JMO!
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As you say if she is indicating this guy and it turns out he isn't the one - she better lawyer up quick. To me the worst part of her blabbering is if she is correct and this guy takes flight because he has seen her blabbing and now knows the cops may be looking specifically for him. What if he isn't caught for a length of time because he runs, following her blabbering, and ends up hurting or forbid killing another innocent girl ? Seems to me she is blabbing because she felt the police wouldn't listen to her. She may well have interferred with this investigation. The interviewers are no better IMO either.

Too late now... JMO
 
raisincharlie said:
As you say if she is indicating this guy and it turns out he isn't the one - she better lawyer up quick. To me the worst part of her blabbering is if she is correct and this guy takes flight because he has seen her blabbing and now knows the cops may be looking specifically for him. What if he isn't caught for a length of time because he runs, following her blabbering, and ends up hurting or forbid killing another innocent girl ? Seems to me she is blabbing because she felt the police wouldn't listen to her. She may well have interferred with this investigation. The interviewers are no better IMO either.

Too late now... JMO
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If I were the friend of Tiffany and the last person to see her alive....and I thought I knew something about who might have done this...and I feared for my safety...and I had tried to tell the cops but they didn't seem interested in my info...I would be blabbing it all over the tv too! The cops should know how to handle people with information. jmo
 
richandfamous said:
If I were the friend of Tiffany and the last person to see her alive....and I thought I knew something about who might have done this...and I feared for my safety...and I had tried to tell the cops but they didn't seem interested in my info...I would be blabbing it all over the tv too! The cops should know how to handle people with information. jmo
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Quess I would be wondering why the police didn't want to listen. But to make an accusation on national TV without knowing 100% the person was involved, out of fear, frustration, whatever, hardly seems the way to improve anything let alone one's safety - nothing like displaying one's face to the world and the potential killer. Not very bright IMO if one is fearful for their life. I would agree the police know how to handle information. Afraid - she should be keeping a low profile instead of showing her face on every talk show that will give her air time. JMO.
 
I haven't seen Faith on television. However, if the "harasser" is married with children, he may not fit the profile of being a young guy, possibly a college student. From what I could see from the ATM photo, the guy gives me the general impression of being a young guy, possibly a college student, a young guy that used to be a college student or who hangs out with students.
 
I agree nan. LE has been fairly specific about the profile. 18-25 years old, 1st murder, uncomfortable now, not likely to flee (could be because he is financially dependent on parent), etc.
 
raisincharlie said:
Quess I would be wondering why the police didn't want to listen. But to make an accusation on national TV without knowing 100% the person was involved, out of fear, frustration, whatever, hardly seems the way to improve anything let alone one's safety - nothing like displaying one's face to the world and the potential killer. Not very bright IMO if one is fearful for their life. I would agree the police know how to handle information. Afraid - she should be keeping a low profile instead of showing her face on every talk show that will give her air time. JMO.
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I haven't seen all of Faith's tv interviews but in the one I saw on Greta, she did not give a name or identify the subject. Did she accuse someone specifically? If not she has covered her arse legally. As to wondering why the police didn't want to listen....that could be any number of reasons, he could have connection, ie. LE, government, (dog catcher, BTK, just kidding). But never the less, people didn't report BTK for fear of retaliation. Sorry, just thinking out loud...always gets me in trouble.
Anyway, I don't think she has damaged the investigation by talking to media. jmo
 
That #5 is a phenominal photo Nan. I can almost see right thru the bandana to see his whole face. Looks like his mouth is stretched a bit from the bandana or nylon he has on it, but I can pretty well tell what he looks like!

So Concerned, I didn't understand what you meant in saying the link is forbidden?



Scandi
 
scandi said:
That #5 is a phenominal photo Nan. I can almost see right thru the bandana to see his whole face. Looks like his mouth is stretched a bit from the bandana or nylon he has on it, but I can pretty well tell what he looks like!
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I would think that the FBI or police would have some kind of computer program to draw a picture of what this guy looks like. They should do some kind of computer enhancement and release that photo.
 
nanandjim said:
Look at the photos at the link. The photo taken at 3:37 a.m. (5th photo) looks like the bandanna is down or that you can see the outline of the guy's face and mouth. You can click on the photos to enlarge them.
http://clemsonews.clemson.edu/WWW_releases/2006/May/souers/photos/suspect/suspect.html

It also looks like the guy has on some type of sunglasses. He certainly came prepared, didn't he??
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It does look like sunglasses. Good catch! I bet it was all stuff he had in his vehicle. The other thing about the atm visit is she may have been trying to prevent the assault and said to take her money but not hurt her etc. gave him the number but he was rattled and couldn't remember. This is another reason I think he is young and inexperienced and probably surprised he murdered her. But once he got the card he thought he would try one last humiliation.
 
Gee, it makes me wonder why LE chose the picture they did to put on national TV when they had this particular shot!


Scandi
 
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