Science, Modelling (including actions and results of what top infected countries/states are doing)

[jjenny]

I don't think one necessarily needs to take 9 times the regular dose. So this is how much the 10 people in a small study were taking. 60 mg is 3 tablets that have 20 mg each.
"At daily doses ranging from 60 to 240 mg, the histamine-2 receptor antagonist widely used to suppress gastric acid production was linked to reduced severity across a range of symptoms 24 to 48 hours after starting treatment in 10 outpatients with a clinical diagnosis of COVID-19, reported Tobias Janowitz, MD, PhD, of Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory in New York. Symptoms cleared within 14 days, the team said."
Common Heartburn Drug for COVID-19 Symptoms? | MedPage Today

 

[jjenny]

Abilene woman working on cure for COVID-19, part of research team


Dr. Lacy Galloway told me about her work on this treatment two years ago. She was inspired by the search for a treatment for Ebola. She worked with Dr. Rothstein, the former VP of John Hopkins, to use the UV light which she works with as a dentist to kill superbugs.

Rothstein describes it :

“Basically you put an IV in the patient, drain out approx. 3CC’sper kilogram of body weight, run it through a device over ultra violet light and then send it back into the body.”

I can’t believe this hasn’t received any national news coverage. It sounds to me like it would work much better and more quickly than the current drug therapy treatments we have now.

It sure doesn't sound very simple. Draining blood, running through a special device-sounds similar to an ecmo machine, which we have very few of.

 

[jjenny]

By the way, is covid even in blood? She proposed to UV light the blood, but blood cells don't have the receptors for covid. They don't blood tests to test for covid-there obviously is a reason for it. If covid is not in blood, what exactly is UV light going to kill?
"Blood cells don’t have the binding sites COVID-19 is looking for. The virus is focused on attacking the respiratory and digestive systems."
Why you won’t get COVID-19 from a blood transfusion

 

[jjenny]

Apparently, Dr. Robert Rothstein, recently retired VP of Medicine at Johns Hopkins believes that it that it can.
Reference for Dr. Rothstein:
Robert Rothstein: Biographies

I made a mistake on Dr. Lacy Mankin’s last name. Galloway is her maiden name.

Covid is a not a blood borne pathogen. Blood cells lack receptors for covid to bind to. Currently, it's not believed covid can be transmitted by blood donation. Covid tests are not done on blood (to look for virus).
What exactly are they proposing to kill irradiating blood by UV light?

 

[PayrollNerd]

I think I have a better chance of killing Covid-19 via my new A/C system's UV light. It kills viruses and prevents mold growth.

An apheresis machine, which is what I was on for my transplant, splits out the components of the blood. The blood continually transfuses through the body and machine. It is good that this lady is thinking out of the box so to speak, she's just a bit off course.

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An apheresis machine is a device which receives blood removed from a patient or donor’s body and separates it into its various components: plasma, platelets, white blood cells and red blood cells. Depending on the reason for apheresis, one of these components is isolated and collected by the instrument, while the others are returned to the body.

 

[PayrollNerd]

By the way, is covid even in blood? She proposed to UV light the blood, but blood cells don't have the receptors for covid. They don't blood tests to test for covid-there obviously is a reason for it. If covid is not in blood, what exactly is UV light going to kill?
"Blood cells don’t have the binding sites COVID-19 is looking for. The virus is focused on attacking the respiratory and digestive systems."
Why you won’t get COVID-19 from a blood transfusion

The antibodies are in the blood but the virus is airborne and invades the body. You need the nasal test to diagnose it. I am part of a study and have been given a finger prick Covid-19 antibody test for free. I have to get a medical professional to administer it. The goal is to see how Multiple Myeloma patients respond to Covid-19, what works and what doesn't, etc.

I found out this week that I may have been exposed back in Jan/Feb time frame. Not by someone who had it but their spouse. So they could be a carrier and I could have been exposed. I have not been sick other than allergies which is amazing for me being so immune compromised.

 

[jjenny]

The antibodies are in the blood but the virus is airborne and invades the body. You need the nasal test to diagnose it. I am part of a study and have been given a finger prick Covid-19 antibody test for free. I have to get a medical professional to administer it. The goal is to see how Multiple Myeloma patients respond to Covid-19, what works and what doesn't, etc.

I found out this week that I may have been exposed back in Jan/Feb time frame. Not by someone who had it but their spouse. So they could be a carrier and I could have been exposed. I have not been sick other than allergies which is amazing for me being so immune compromised.

But antibodies are a good thing. To kill virus in blood by UV light, virus actually has to be in blood. So the idea of using UV light to kill covid in blood has a fatal flaw, if there is no covid in blood.

 

[meanmaryjean]

But antibodies are a good thing. To kill virus in blood by UV light, virus actually has to be in blood. So the idea of using UV light to kill covid in blood has a fatal flaw, if there is no covid in blood.

AND even if there were- the virus exists in cells of the body- the entire body, and cannot be 'treated' with UV light.

 

[10ofRods]

Looks like Walmart has it. According to an article I read, you need to take 80mg 3 times a day for about 11 days

Common Heartburn Drug for COVID-19 Symptoms? | MedPage Today

Yes, that's about right - if you know you have CoVid. I'm not sure what the side effects of this large dose would be if a person mistakenly took it, not having CoVid. I am assuming that one could do the same thing again if one actually got CoVid, but there's no data on that question that I know of.

 

[10ofRods]

I don't think one necessarily needs to take 9 times the regular dose. So this is how much the 10 people in a small study were taking. 60 mg is 3 tablets that have 20 mg each. Most common dose was 80 mg, 3 times a day, but they only took it for 11 days. So you don't need to take it for months. This is something you can buy over the counter, and is still relatively cheap even with a price gouging.

"At daily doses ranging from 60 to 240 mg, the histamine-2 receptor antagonist widely used to suppress gastric acid production was linked to reduced severity across a range of symptoms 24 to 48 hours after starting treatment in 10 outpatients with a clinical diagnosis of COVID-19, reported Tobias Janowitz, MD, PhD, of Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory in New York. Symptoms cleared within 14 days, the team said."
Common Heartburn Drug for COVID-19 Symptoms? | MedPage Today

Yes, but again, this is presuming that it's for treatment of an existing case.

I am interested in Pepcid as a possible prophylactic. Like heparin, it obviously treats an underly issue with receptors (in the gut; heparin in the nose - and also a very direct connection between the spike proteins in Sars-Covid-2 and what heparin does).

If Pepcid actually hits receptors that CV is trying to use...then it too might be a prophylactic. What I'm reading is that the higher doses (240 mg = 12 tabs?) were more effective with actual CV. The study above is outpatient - there are inpatient studies as well.

Nearly everyone diagnosed with CV who is treated as an outpatient will see symptoms resolve in 14 days. If they get worse, they'll be admitted and then it will be treated as an inpatient case.

At any rate, we're taking it as a preventative measure, and maybe we'll up our dose a bit. It's interesting how few in my own real life social circle are interested in even reading about these things. I guess they want to wing it.

 

[Jessalba]

cases are increasing day by day in India. Corona seems a biggest problem in India now. Need to stay at home anyhow. I am trying to busy myself in landscaping my garden, I hope you are also finding ways to keep yourself busy in this situation.. Hoping for good

 

[Footwarrior]

A great explanation of how COVID-19 models work.

https://ncase.me/covid-19/

 

[PayrollNerd]

I’m guessing a few threads were combined. I was confused there for a minute.

Earlier this week, I went to the Health Dept. The head nurse administered my Covid-19 Antibody test for the study I’m in. It was negative. I expected it to be as I have not been sick, thankfully.