scuffmark on wall/suitcase

[Britt]

Originally posted by Nehemiah
Ned, you said..."Fact: Burke Ramsey stated that Jon Benet was awake and in fact carried in gifts the evening she was murdered. Contridicting his parents statement that she was asleep."

Can you cite a source for this? I have been thinking about something and this would add to my thoughts.

I'm not Ned, but I think he'll let me answer this one for him.

That's in Thomas's book. In Burke's June 1998 interview:

He said that his sister fell asleep in the car on the way home but awakened to help carry presents into the house of a friend. When they got home, JonBenét walked in slowly and went up the spiral stairs to bed, just ahead of Patsy. p. 355, paperback

 

[Toltec]

John says it was a NEW suitcase....Patsy says it was an OLD BLUE SAMSONITE. She does not use it...she uses the one with the rollers.

Patsy claims that she last saw the suitcase near the boiler room.

John claims that he brought the suitcase downstairs.

Okay...according to Patsy, the OLD BLUE SUITCASE was last seen by her near the boiler room.

WHO MOVED IT TO THE BASEMENT WINDOW AREA?

 

[Nedthan Johns]

Now if I recall my conversation with Lou correctly, John Ramsey stated the suitcase was kept UNDER the stairs

 

[Nedthan Johns]

Britt You always have the answers. Up the spiral staircase on her way to bed, but according to John Burke and he stayed up to work on a model? is that correct. So was the last time Burke saw JB was on the way to bed? If so, this would confirm that JB in fact went to bed, but the altercation occured after Burke went to bed, I would love to ask Burke when the last time was that he saw his sister.

 

[Nedthan Johns]

Toltec: Patsy stated to LE that she was packing 3 suitcases for the trip to Orlando in JAR's room. She stated that her suitcase was upstairs in her dressing room.

Ned; I only see 2 suitcases in JAR's room, one on the bed, and one that may be in that stripped chair. God who let this woman decorate? Where is the third?

It is possible that one of the suitcases could have come from under JAR's bed? Perhaps Patsy needed to borrow JAR's suitcase for the trip to Orlando.

Ned: Would make sense and may be why the dust ruffle is ruffled.

Patsy claimed that they were to return to Boulder the day before the trip to Charlevoix. Why take their packed suitcases for Orlando to Charlevoix?

Ned: Why even pack them ahead of time if they had a day to do so?

 

[Blazeboy3]

Originally posted by Nedthan Johns
Toltec: Patsy stated to LE that she was packing 3 suitcases for the trip to Orlando in JAR's room. She stated that her suitcase was upstairs in her dressing room.

Ned; I only see 2 suitcases in JAR's room, one on the bed, and one that may be in that stripped chair. God who let this woman decorate? Where is the third?

It is possible that one of the suitcases could have come from under JAR's bed? Perhaps Patsy needed to borrow JAR's suitcase for the trip to Orlando.

Ned: Would make sense and may be why the dust ruffle is ruffled.

Patsy claimed that they were to return to Boulder the day before the trip to Charlevoix. Why take their packed suitcases for Orlando to Charlevoix?

Ned: Why even pack them ahead of time if they had a day to do so?

IMHO...she should have had an "automatic coffee maker" going ...just to be AHEAD of thing(s)?...common sense...???

 

[SisterSocks]

With their money I' m surprised they didn't have Juan Valdiaz himself brewing coffee. While His Donkey sat in the yard like the Buck Deer, that John and Patsy saw ,the last time they visted the boulder house before they bought it . In fact Pats said this must be the place the Buck stops here.... source--DOI

 

[ajt400]

Where did you here the hair was Melinda's? The hair found in the suitcase was JonBenet's

Also, you listed tons of forensics pointing to JonBenet's parents, but what about the duct tape used to cover her mouth or the rope used to bind her? That has not been linked to either parent, and they have nothing to show that they once bought or owned these things.

All the evidence you have pointed out don't necessarily point to John and Patsy, it says that this (the actual murder itself) was a crime of opportunity, not of careful planning.

 

[Nedthan Johns]

ajt: the fact that the duct tape was only sold at the McGaukins store and Patsy shopped their one month prior and bought items that cost the same as the tape and the rope yet can't remember what those items were, certainly makes it possible that she was the one that purchased these items. This was NO crime of opportunity, had it been the pedophile would have had his way with his victim or taken her for prolonged activity. This child was being molested prior to the crime, the murder was accidental and then made to look like someone else committed it to cover the sexual molestation.

 

[yvonneka]

Hmm...those links are only for AOL members

 

[singularity]

I believe this suitcase is extremely important to solving this case.

Hate to reply to a 13 year old post but I agree 100%. I hate how the suitcase got lumped into the intruder theory which caused many involved to overlook its contents which are interesting to say the least. The Ramseys loved to dance around this suitcase which says a lot about it IMO. Once Smit says the intruder used it to climb out the window, the Ramseys seemed perfectly happy to let him run with that.

Talk about being able to avoid an elephant in the room.