SDSO...Reasons To REOPEN Rebecca's Death Investigation!! **LIST ONLY NO DISCUSSION**

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  • #41
Another brilliant Cynic post and this is also in my signature. Cynic you rock!!!

Here is an animation that I did based on the police theory of the case:

RZN-vid - YouTube

A few notes regarding the pictures that were used in the animation:
I resized a female to be 5 feet, 3 and a half inches using an assumption that the railing is 36” high.
The final hanging location is also based on the above assumption.
She is depicted as standing on the outside of the railing; she, of course, was on the inside.
She is depicted as bent over backwards because I wanted to show where the face would be.


Standing:
2yvtq1w.jpg


Bent:
1enj1i.jpg


Falling:
akd4ee.jpg


9’ Mark:
2zow0t2.jpg


Final location 9’2”
n6t9b8.jpg


Where are the injuries?
2r4rf9y.jpg


The autopsy report says the following with respect to the head and torso of RN

Head:
On the central forehead there is a 1 x 1-3/4 inch group of three vertically oriented parallel, thin, linear abrasions measuring from inferior to superior, ½ inch, 5/8 inch, and 5/8 inch (discontinuous) respectively. The most inferior one is within ¼ inch of the medial edge of the left eyebrow. On the right upper forehead, just past the hairline, there is a ¼ red abrasion.

Torso:
None

So, given that her face would have be scraping over nearly 1 1/2 feet of railing, where is the injury to her nose???
More importantly, with her torso going over 2 feet of railing, why is there not a single abrasion or injury of any kind???
 
  • #42
Excellent thread, Sunnie!

I have concerns about the black gloves and black latex glove listed in the search warrant. What were the results of testing on these items?
 
  • #43
Thanks Smooth Operator!!

I believe the original graphic was done by joe2 at CP. Just to give credit to their awesome work! :great:
 
  • #44
I believe the original graphic was done by joe2 at CP. Just to give credit to their awesome work! :great:

Thank you so much Deanna!!! I really appreciate that a lot!!
 
  • #45
Just out of curiosity I've been working on a timeline of phone calls and text messages of some of the persons on RZ's cell phone records. Here's what I've come up with. If anyone finds errors, please correct in your post. It was a tedious effort! I'm pretty much cross-eyed now. Thanks so much to tvscum for the phone number keys.

RZ Cell Phone Activity
7/11/2011 & 7/12/2011

AS - 901-485-xxxx
July 11
5:11PM - Incoming 5M
9:52PM - Outgoing 2M
10:57PM - Outgoing 4M

July 12
9:42AM - Incoming 4M
3:57PM - Outgoing 2M
4:17PM - Outgoing 1M
7:39PM - Incoming 1M

July 11
11:01PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
11:01PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
11.08PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
11:10PM - TEXT MESSAGE In

July 12
8:53AM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
8:53AM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
8:57AM - TEXT MESSAGE In
8:57AM - TEXT MESSAGE In
8:58AM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
9:00AM - MTM TEXT MESSAGE In
--------------------------------------

NR - 209-814-xxxx
July 11
10:02PM - outgoing 2M

July 12
10:41PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
--------------------------------------

JS - 602-502-xxxx
July 11
10:24AM - outgoing 1M
10:54AM - outgoing 1M
9:37PM - outgoing 2M
10:04PM - outgoing 1M

July 12
4:50PM - outgoing 1M
7:34PM - outgoing 1M

July 11
11:04AM - TEXT MESSAGE In
1:41PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
3:04PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
3:28PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
3:28PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out ??
3:33PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
3:35PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
3:38PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
4:01PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
4:01PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out ??
6:08PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
6:18PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
6:19PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
6:22PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
6:22PM - TEXT MESSAGE In ??
6:28PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
7:04PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
7:10PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out

July 12
2:21AM - TEXT MESSAGE In
2:23AM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
7:27AM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
7:28AM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
9:15AM - TEXT MESSAGE In
9:16AM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
9:17AM - TEXT MESSAGE In
9:21AM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
9:25AM - TEXT MESSAGE In
9:35AM - TEXT MESSAGE In
9:35AM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
10:24AM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
10:25AM - TEXT MESSAGE In
10:39AM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
3:45PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
3:45PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
4:07PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
4:11PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
4:11PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
5:22PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
5:38PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
5:39PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
5:44PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
5:44PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
5:44PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
5:45PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
5:46PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
8:41PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
8:41PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
8:43PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
---------------------------------------

Dr HL - 602-614-xxxx
602-494-xxxx
July 11
3:51PM - Incoming 4M (602-494)
9:30PM - Outgoing 2M (602-614)
10:00PM - Outgoing 1M (602-614)

July 12
8:31AM - Incoming 3M (602-614)
9:55AM - Outgoing 1M (602-614)

July 11
8:17PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out (All TM from 602-614)
8:25PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
8:28PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
9:22PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
9:22PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
10:28PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
10:45PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
10:58PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
10:58PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out

July 12
9:23AM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
9:36AM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
9:38AM - TEXT MESSAGE In
9:52AM - TEXT MESSAGE In
9:53AM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
 
  • #46
Thank you SO much Deanna!!! I feel these records will be VERY important to have in the future. I thank you for your hard, eye crossing work and for posting this here!!!!!:great:
 
  • #47
5:38PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
5:39PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
5:44PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
5:44PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
5:44PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
5:45PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out
5:46PM - TEXT MESSAGE In
8:41PM - TEXT MESSAGE Out

In Out In Out In Out In Out In Out In Out In Out In Out In Out In Out In Out In Out
That's not hinky, that's kinky! (okay just kidding thank you very much for all your work. My apologies for my tacky humor. :)
 
  • #48
Just wanted to point out that I did infact give credit where credit was due as is evident In my post sharing the Adam detailed diagram.. I made certain to give props to a commentor on Coronado Patch for the magnificent and help diagram!! Just wanted to make sure that was clear..
 
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  • #50
New hinky meter article today:

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/10/01/rebecca-zahau-case-worth-a-thousand-words/

Now, there are six loops around the left wrist so the “middle” would be the 3rd or 4th loop around the left wrist. Why (or better yet “how” ) would she get black paint on the 3rd or 4th wrap around her left wrist and not get it on the first, second, or maybe third? And if you go back and watch Ms. LE Bind-myself’s demonstration, how did she bind her wrists at all without brushing her right hand against her left hand and getting paint on it?

And how the heck did she not get any paint on the ankle bindings or the blue t-shirt? Are we to believe that she bound her wrists first, removed her right hand, somehow managed to keep the cleat hitch binding from getting all gimped up while she then bound her ankles virtually one-handed? I mean at some point you have to give the explanation that either the excess paint had already been wiped off on other items, or it had begun to dry and therefore didn’t transfer to the ankle bindings.

OR, are we to believe she bound her ankles first, THEN PAINTED THE DOOR (nude and ankle bound), and then bound her wrists? Wouldn’t she have to wrap the blue t-shirt around her neck first before binding her wrists, so wouldn’t the blue t-shirt have a MUCH larger probability of having black paint on it? It has more surface area and is more absorbent than the rope, right? And how did she put the ligature around her neck and not get any paint on it, but end up getting it on the “knot tail”?

Could it be that the paint on the knot tail was transferred to the tail when it brushed against Rebecca’s right hand after she was bound? It’s definitely long enough to reach her hands behind her back and especially when the ligature has been placed loosely around her neck and before she goes over the railing to draw it tight.

And why are there black-paint fingerprint smudges all over the trash bag but SDSO never said anything about the fingerprints found on the bag?
 
  • #51
Another reason to reopen the ivestigation is because even Harry Houdini didn't tie himself up with rope... he only escaped :D

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbvZZsYZmEY"]Houdini Rope Escape - YouTube[/ame]

Now, Rebecca is great, but she is no Houdini, she could not escape the ropes someone tied her in.
 
  • #52
OK, serious now, I just looked at the photos of Rebecca falling (above) - why didn't her body slam into the side of the house a couple times??
 
  • #53
Bringing this over from the "What One Thing?!?!" thread, per SunnieRN's request:

So here's my list. It's not necessarily an exhaustive list of the reasons (although it may be exhausting reading it :crazy: ) why I doubt the official suicide finding, but it includes the reasons I've currently compiled.

1. This is my #1 reason: the impossible geometry of the fall, based on Valhalls' excellent mathematical analysis.

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/09/14/rebecca-zahau-case-the-geometry-in-rebeccas-fall/

2. The 4 subgaleal hemorrhages (especially the one on the right superior parietal scalp - the top of her head), indicative of blunt force trauma.

3. The lack of significant facial & torso injuries, based on Cynic's brilliant computer animation.

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - The case for murder


4. Again, the lack of significant injuries to RZ's torso, since it's been assumed that she leaned over the railing & pushed off from her toes (all while defying the impossible geometry, no less). The AR (page 13) notes 3 small, superficial abrasions to the lower abdomen.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...TItOWM1Mi00NGE4LWEyZDgtMjc3OWUxZTYzYmY5&hl=en

Based on a close-up photo of the balcony railing, even if RZ had been able to defy the impossible geometry of the fall (which I seriously doubt) she should have sustained numerous, deep lacerations to her torso as she slid over the rough, jagged areas of the railing.

http://www.sdsheriff.net/coronado/images/rz8699.jpg

5. The lack of livor mortis in the extremities after hanging for ~ 4 hours.

6. The fixed posterior livor mortis, after lying semi-supine tilted to the left side for 12+ hours. The lack of fixed livor mortis to the left side, also after lying tilted to that side for 12+ hours.

7. The 2 hour time frame (after having allegedly listened to a vm message @ ~ 12:50; not to mention phone records show no evidence of an incoming call @ ~ 12:30 that resulted in the vm message that was allegedly listened to @ ~ 12:50) to make the ultimate decision to commit suicide (absent any previous mental health history or known suicidal ideation), to devise a workable suicide plan, and to assemble the instruments associated with a workable suicide plan (rope, kitchen knives, paint supplies), and to carry out that plan, including figuring out how to successfully tie the bindings to ankles, wrists, bedframe, and to fashion an effective noose.

8. The exact length of the noose rope: without apparent measuring (as is evident in the dearth of footprints on the balcony tiles) to ensure it would not be too long or too short from where it was tied off to the bedframe & coursed all the way across the room, across the balcony floor, & over the railing - how did she know the noose rope would not be too long or too short?

9. The obvious contamination of the crime scene: Exhibit A) the boot print on the balcony tiles. IMO, if the balcony tiles were tromped upon, it's possible that the rest of the primary crime scene (if not also the secondary crime scene i.e. the rest of the mansion, the garage, etc.) may have also been compromised, with the possibility that potential evidence may have been lost.

10. No fingernail scrapings, or clipped & preserved fingernails were noted in the AR. Without collection of these items, and without testing for possible foreign DNA, there is no way to conclusively determine that RZ had not fought against an attacker.

11. The blue tee shirt wrapped around the victim's neck - on the outside of the rope - and stuffed into her mouth.

12. The music that was reported to have been heard by neighbors @ ~ 1:00 - 1:30 a.m. on the night of her demise.

13. The telephone conversations with the decedent's sister (during which the decedent was reported to have not seemed despondent or suicidal) on the night of her demise.

14. The decision by SDCSD to not attempt to create a re-enactment of the hanging.

15. The sticky tape residue on RZ's shins: if it was athletic tape - where is the rest of the roll? If it was duct tape - where is the rest of the roll? Did she put the tape on her legs, or did someone else?

16. The noose was wrapped over her hair. As someone who has had long hair my entire life, I know from experience that a woman with long hair will automatically (without thinking about it) pull her hair out from under anything restrictive (purse strap, backpack strap, collar, scarf, necklace, etc.). IMO, if someone else had wrapped the noose around RZ's neck, that person would not have removed her long hair from beneath the rope.

17. The curious lack of anyone else's DNA or fingerprints anywhere in the immediate crime scene (including the lack of anyone else's fingerprints or DNA besides RZ's on the kitchen knives, which are typically tools that are handled by all the adults in a household).

18. Lack of official information regarding other rooms or surfaces in the mansion (including the garage) or adjoining guesthouses that were processed for possible evidence.

19. The message on the door: RZ has been described as someone who cared about others; someone who was always there for her family & friends. Psychologically speaking, it's my opinion that a person who is sensitive to the feelings & needs of others (as she was said to have been) would have more than likely written a detailed suicide letter so that her loved ones could have understood the reason for suicide & to hopefully provide them with a sense of closure. The message on the door did not accomplish that, IMO, but only created more questions, more doubt, and certainly did not provide closure. IMO, the message on the door seems to have been written by a third party who was attempting to taunt JS.

20. The blood on RZ's fingers (page 10, AR): unless the blood was collected & tested, there is no way to determine if it was her own blood, or someone else's.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...TItOWM1Mi00NGE4LWEyZDgtMjc3OWUxZTYzYmY5&hl=en

21. The victim was found nude. Yet, she had not removed a black "Bionic Band" and a yellow "Livestrong" band from her left wrist, nor did she remove a "Power Balance" band from her right wrist (page 8, AR).

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...TItOWM1Mi00NGE4LWEyZDgtMjc3OWUxZTYzYmY5&hl=en

Her ears were pierced, but she wasn't wearing earrings @ the time of her death. Nor was she wearing any other jewelry. If she planned to kill herself, and had removed all other clothing & jewelry, why did she not remove the "Bionic Band", the "Livestrong" band, and the "Power Balance" band?

The list (of why the *official* suicide finding strains credulity, and why, IMO, an independent investigation is warranted) grows ever longer.

Picking up where I left off:

22. The additional shoe print on the balcony tiles, discovered by Dr. Maurice Godwin when he viewed the photos of the balcony floor: this shoe print can be seen beneath the boot print of the LE officer who admittedly contaminated the crime scene.

Image of the additional shoe print:

SuspiciousBalconyshoemar.jpg


http://www.radaronline.com/photos/i...nknown-footprints-balcony-zahau-case-revealed

23. The measurement of the area of "disturbed dust" on the balcony railing: SDCSD reported this area to be 11" wide, when it was actually 9" wide (2 whole inches off) TY Cynic! Closer analysis by Cynic revealed that even this 9" area of "disturbed dust" was not continuous, but was, in fact, only about 3" at its widest point (which incidentally corresponds to the width of someone's hand) as well as two other more narrow areas (about 1.25" and .50") that seem to correspond with where the red rope strained against the railing during the hanging (as evidenced by the red rope fibers).

Please see Cynic's marvelous illustration:

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - The footprints/shoeprints on the balcony


24. The 10:41 p.m. text message on July 12 from NR to RZ, to which RZ did not reply. The sender of the message claims she sent the text earlier in the evening. To date, cell phone records have not corroborated this claim.

25. The scream(s) reportedly heard coming from the mansion by a neighbor(s) @ approximately 11:30 p.m. on Tuesday, July 12, just prior to RZ's death.

26. The lack of proof by SDCSD as to the whereabouts of JS @ the time of RZ's death. SDCSD stated they verified the whereabouts of JS via video surveillance tapes from Rady's Children's Hospital. However, it was revealed post press conference that JS had, in fact, left the hospital to allegedly sleep @ the RMcD House across the street from the hospital between the hours of 1:00 a.m. - 7:00 a.m. on July 13 (the night/morning of RZ's death). Search warrants show that SDCSD did not request video surveillance tapes from the RMcD House, but only from the hospital.

27. The additional shoe print in the crime scene bedroom, which is noted to be in EXTREMELY close proximity to the iron bed & other crime scene evidence (AFTER the bed moved 7.5" from the wall, which, IMO, rules out the possibility that the shoe print can be attributed to the CSIs, since the bed more than likely moved 7.5" during the hanging & before the CSI team arrived on the scene).

To quote Dr. Maurice Godwin:

"The toe is actually underneath the foot of the bed," Dr. Godwin told RadarOnline.com about the shoe print in the photo given to RadarOnline.com that was part of the police evidence. "This could suggest that it is likely not from the police."

shoeprint.jpg


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/09/rebecca-zahau-death-shoe-print-found-bedroom


As always, this is a group effort. Thank You to Everyone for your input!

It is my hope that a new investigation into the manner of RZ's death will be opened (hopefully, by an independent law enforcement agency).
 
  • #54
Thank you SO much Sorrell!!! This is a useful and thorough accounting and I love knowing it is here, as with so many threads, I am having trouble finding important posts!!!! Thanks again!!!:woohoo::great::seeya:
 
  • #55
Thanks, SunnieRN. That's a lot of work and a great job. Also thanks to the other posters.
Can I mention the 'clumps' of hair mentioned in the search warrants? Who's were they? Where were they found? Does the hair also have roots? Were these pulled hairs?
And lastly, why would there be clumps of hair lying around anyway?

That's another reason to me.
 
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jonah_sig2.jpg

Another signature from letter to the AG.
 
  • #58
Deanna, thank you so very, very much!!! If the writing on the door is ever released, this may be very important!!:great:
 
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Thank you jjenny!!:seeya: Much appreciated!!:great:
 
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