Searching for Anna - #1

[Annasmom]

I just learned (while reading a foreign newspaper on line) that the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children now has an international site: www.icmec.org. However, their dates for searching only seem to go back a few years and Anna doesn't seem to be in their data base. Any ideas?

 

[SherlockJr]

I just learned (while reading a foreign newspaper on line) that the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children now has an international site: www.icmec.org. However, their dates for searching only seem to go back a few years and Anna doesn't seem to be in their data base. Any ideas?

Here is the contact information. The advanced search goes back to the 70's. You may want to contact them to have Anna added to their database. Of coarse, don't dial the 001, just 1-703-837-6116. I just called the number and it is a working number. A recording comes on asking to leave your name & phone number and they will return your call. I'm sure during work hours, someone answers the phone.



The International Centre for Missing & Exploited Children
Charles B. Wang International Children's Building
699 Prince Street
Alexandria, Virginia 22314-3175
United States of America

Telephone:001.703.837.6116
Fax:001.703.549.4504
Email: [email protected]

 

[laini]

I zoomed it up super big on my computer, and I definitely think the box you are referring to is labeled with a name that contains an F. I see an L before the F, so possibly Alfie? I don't know. The name on the little girl's overalls is Emily. The other boxes are labeled with a name ending "ando," Christian, and Jane/June.

The face looks like Anna, but the hair is darker than hers was when it disappeared, I think. The woman's hair is clearly blonde-ish, but the little girl's looks darker, though that could be because it's wet. QUOTE

What is this referring to, SherlockJr? I must have missed something.

 

[SherlockJr]

I was referring to what was discussed about the girl at Synanon and her name being Emily. Then in the book Annasmom's dream, Anna says she was with Emily.

 

[smile22]

was'nt that girl accounted for? didnt someone mentione that a syanon member said the little girl was born in syanon and i know the family?

 

[Dr. Doogie]

was'nt that girl accounted for? didnt someone mentione that a syanon member said the little girl was born in syanon and i know the family?

Through a WS member and Gerry Nance at the NCMEC, contact was made with several Synanon members who stated that the girl in the picture was not Anna, but a different girl who they named who had been born into the commune before Anna disappeared. However, the girl's name was not listed as "Emily". It is possible that in a commune environment, clothing was shared or passed down from older children to younger children, which would explain the name difference.

My gut feeling is that the girl in the picture is not Anna (but my gut has been wrong before).

Here is a link to the picture:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/drdoogief/detail?.dir=aac9&.dnm=e637re2.jpg&.src=ph

 

[christine2448]

was'nt that girl accounted for? didnt someone mentione that a syanon member said the little girl was born in syanon and i know the family?

Here's my take on this....the "girl" not the picture, the one who said she doesn't believe it's her, from Synanon, we found while trying to find Rose Cole. While researching Rose Cole we also came across the picture you speak of. The lady I met from Synanon, said she new this girl and family and it could not be Anna. I'm not sure that this is reliable. I hope the discountment of the "Synanon girl" was not only based on this former Synanons remarks....I had not come to Anna's thread until all of this, by 'this' I mean communicaitons with this woman via email and postings in Roses thread....so I had thought you all researched this other little girl and were sure she wasn't at match.....?? Doogie?

 

[christine2448]

Through a WS member and Gerry Nance at the NCMEC, contact was made with several Synanon members who stated that the girl in the picture was not Anna, but a different girl who they named who had been born into the commune before Anna disappeared. However, the girl's name was not listed as "Emily". It is possible that in a commune environment, clothing was shared or passed down from older children to younger children, which would explain the name difference.

My gut feeling is that the girl in the picture is not Anna (but my gut has been wrong before).

Here is a link to the picture:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/drdoogief/detail?.dir=aac9&.dnm=e637re2.jpg&.src=ph

Oh, :doh: :doh: , if I had only read one more post! So, she definitly was discounted by other means. I thought you all woulda researched more, I was right!

 

[SherlockJr]

Let me explain..... I only brought this up to bring up comparisions with dreams. I believe dreams have reasons. Annasmom recalls one of her many dreams. In her dream, Anna tells her she was with "Emily". I thought it was interesting that an Emily (the little girl from Synanon) was discussed here.

 

[laini]

I was referring to what was discussed about the girl at Synanon and her name being Emily. Then in the book Annasmom's dream, Anna says she was with Emily.

Ok, thank you. As Smille22 said, was that Synannon girl ruled out as being Anna? Still an interesting connection you saw there.

 

[smile22]

i do belive in dreams and have had some freeky dreams before that i took to mean more than what a dream book could answer. you were discusing the name emily and it didnt hit me other than the synanon connection. do you think that the people who took anna renamed her emily if so now we need to focus on people named emily that are looking for their birth family. do you think these people could have brainwashed her? what if some point in her life she was having these dreams about another life. and her new parents brushed it off or she went to see a doctor.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

On May 17, 2006, I received the following email from Gerry Nance of the NCMEC:

"My contact has shown the pictures of Anna to three members (former) who
lived in the Oakland facility during the 70s. None recognized the
photograph of Anna and all said that there were very few young children
there, and everyone would make a fuss over them, so the chances of one
being secreted into the facility would be nil. One member said there
were some children in the Santa Monica facility, but they were kids of
single parents who had no where else to leave them.

Although not officially a cult, they meet enough criteria in my mind
that I am looking at them from a cult standpoint: In the 70s and early
into the 80s, they had folks flocking to the door. That is also the
time when isolation started and continued. To isolate, you must first
isolate the member from family, but you also have to put a moat around
the member and the community, nothing that would give authorities reason
to rock your boat was allowed. The practice of kidnapping young
children when there are so many women in the facility of child bearing
age would be a high risk. I am not saying that this is not still a
possibility, but the odds of it are beginning to change."

Other sources within WS at the same time came to the same conclusion. The WS sources also supplied the name of the girl who the Synanon members identified as the girl in the picture. We were able to locate a family website where pictures of the family were posted (including girl in the picture as an adult). These pictures did not resemble the age-progressed pictures of Anna, and the girl showed a definite family resemblance to her siblings.

Because of this, I concluded that the girl in the picture was not Anna. Remember that the the possible Synanon connection only came about because of someone researching the Synanon archives during the hunt for Rose Cole came across this picture and recognized the resembance between Anna and the girl - no concrete evidence was every uncovered that would point us to believe that Synanon had any involvement in Anna's case (other than the general location and George Waters's employment in a drug-treatment facility).

Because the Synanon member's all came to the same conclusion independently and because they were not aware of why they were being asked about the girl in the picture, it is unlikely that they were being anything other than truthful in their responses. As much as I would have loved to concluded otherwise, I felt that we were attempting to fit the "square peg" of Anna's disappearance into the "round hole" of the Synanon cult.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

Concerning dreams, psychics and visions:

I do believe that there is some validity in what they tell us, but the reliability of that information is so questionable that focusing our search on information that has arisen solely from this type of source would probably be futile unless it is supported by hard evidence that it may be truthful.

For example, several of the psychics and dreams indicated that Anna was in the central valley area of California (either specifically Bakersfield, such as in Annasmoms dream, or by general description of people and the environment where she was). Except for Annasmom and Joe Ford traveling to Bakersfield to look for the street and house that she had seen in her dream, the search for Anna has not focused on this area. Yet, when evidence does arise that seems to correspond with the psychic sources, it is given extra scrutiny, such as the adopted woman who was born in San Francisco on the same day as Anna and was raised in Galt, CA (which is in the central valley area).

Until a psychic says, "She is alive. Here is her address and phone number. Call her now.", I have to take anything they say with a huge grain of salt. And I believe that if we follow their vague clues, we will end up chasing ghosts and phantoms (and ultimately, our own tails).

 

[Annasmom]

Annasmom

Near the end of Chapter 6 in the book, you mention GW wanted to join a commune with 2 bachelors and 2 single women. Can you share more about this? A certain religion or organization?

Sorry I didn't answer this sooner. No, there was no religion or organization involved in this. In fact, calling it a "commune" in the hippie days would probably give the wrong idea. All the people involved were health professionals, and the place was a big luxurious house near where they all worked.

 

[Annasmom]

Concerning dreams, psychics and visions:

Until a psychic says, "She is alive. Here is her address and phone number. Call her now.", I have to take anything they say with a huge grain of salt. And I believe that if we follow their vague clues, we will end up chasing ghosts and phantoms (and ultimately, our own tails).

Doogie, since you have used the "psi" word, I should take this opportunity to quote J. D. Rhine, who is called the "father of modern parapsychology". He said, in direct reference to Anna's case, that "there is no quality control on psychics". I have been to dozens of psychics, more than I really want to admit, without getting anything tangible which could be acted upon. And since we're talking about it, a couple of them were real con artists who claimed to "work with the police" but in fact wanted enormous sums of money to take on a case.

 

[Annasmom]

I just got a lovely birthday card for Anna (yes, early; it's not until Sept. 25) from the Vanished Children's Alliance in San Jose, Calif., signed by five staff members. Their mail to me comes with a mini-poster of Anna's kindergarten picture on the front.

 

[Gina_M]

I just got a lovely birthday card for Anna (yes, early; it's not until Sept. 25) from the Vanished Children's Alliance in San Jose, Calif., signed by five staff members. Their mail to me comes with a mini-poster of Anna's kindergarten picture on the front.

Annasmom, that is so nice and thoughtful of them!

I was exploring some social networking sites a bit, and I haven't seen this
one mentioned before so I thought I'd post about it: http://www.43things.com/
and its related sites, http://www.43places.com/ and http://www.43people.com/.
These are basically sites where you can make a list of goals for yourself:
things you'd like to do, places you'd like to visit, and people you'd
like to meet, respectively. You can search by keyword, and meet
people who have similar goals.

After I did a search on http://www.43people.com/, it displayed this message:
Not finding the person you were looking for? Create a placeholder page for them.

You can create a placeholder page, listing the person's first name, last name,
and distinguishing details. I thought it might be a good idea to create
a placeholder page for Anna.

Oh, and there's a whole list of social networking websites here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_networking_websites

 

[Dr. Doogie]

Recent events in my personal life have prevented me from spending as much time as I would have liked on the search for Anna. Those events have begun to settle down, and I hope to rededicate myself to the tasks at hand. There are several projects that will further our search that have been put aside that can now be persued with vigor. I will be starting those this week and will post my progress here on the thread. Thanks to everyone for sticking with the search during this digression.

 

[Shadow205]

Recent events in my personal life have prevented me from spending as much time as I would have liked on the search for Anna. Those events have begun to settle down, and I hope to rededicate myself to the tasks at hand. There are several projects that will further our search that have been put aside that can now be persued with vigor. I will be starting those this week and will post my progress here on the thread. Thanks to everyone for sticking with the search during this digression.

Glad that things have settled down for you Doogie. My life has been hectic lately too. I've been here but not with the amount of time needed to really get anything done. I'm kind of out of ideas right now with Anna so if you want to throw something my way, I'd be glad to work on it.

 

[christine2448]

Glad that things have settled down for you Doogie. My life has been hectic lately too. I've been here but not with the amount of time needed to really get anything done. I'm kind of out of ideas right now with Anna so if you want to throw something my way, I'd be glad to work on it.

What Shadow said, we are all hear for ya, just give us a holla!