Seeking Key Info 6/10-6/14 for New Leads

[Leila]

That's interesting since it mentions that June 9th date again--I wonder why Casey holds this date as significant? I've always wondered why Cindy never elaborated about what the circumstances were when she had Caylee visit her father on Father's Day--did Casey bring Caylee back home, was Caylee with the Grandparents alone, or some other scenerio? Cindy also stated she had last seen Caylee on June 9th--before she corrected herself with the Father's Day date. Somehow that June 9th date must mean something.

Actually, Cindy only corrected herself under duress. It was LE who determined that the video of Caylee reading at the assisted living facility was taken on June 15th, not June 8th as was originally asserted. It was LE that made the correction. The Anthonys were off by one week, but for some reason, all used that June 9th date initially.

If you look at a June calendar............June 8th and 15th were both on a Sunday, with June 9th and 16th being on a Monday. They had their weeks mixed up, but for all of them to initially say June 9th was the last day they saw Caylee is significant. They all said June 9th until corrected by LE, so this date of June 9th must be important.

My guess is this, June 9th, is the date Casey moved in with Tony. I suspect that George and Cindy were not happy with this arrangement.

Since we know from what's been stated by Tony's roommates, Clint and Nate, Caylee never spent the night at Tony's apartment. So Casey was doing something with Caylee at that point.......either leaving her with someone for the night, or drugging her.

I think whatever happened was preceeded by a major argument between Casey and her parents on July 15th (neighbor heard yelling and cursing).

 

[liltigress]

To Troy on Facebook
Casey Anthony (Orlando, FL) wrote
at 2:40pm on June 24th, 2008
she still has yet to move into the house. hell, in the past 9 days, i haven't even been living at the house. DRAMMMMMA. i'll fill ya in later on.
miss ya, yo.

This puts her last date living in the Anthony home again to June 15th.

 

[CrimeAddict]

It would make sense that Caylee was at the GP's house sleeping all those nights because wasn't the fight about money and caring for Caylee that occured on June 15th? or was it just about money? It would make sense if she was taking off to sleep at her new bf's place, and leaving Caylee with her parents, maybe they wanted her to take some responsibility for her daughter.

 

[BondJamesBond]

OK. Since, the last, independently verified sightings of Caylee were on 6/15, there's plenty of attention being focused on the events post-6/15.

I propose that there's valuable information to be gathered from the period 6/10-6/14 that could yield a break, or at least some new leads.

*Per Ricardo's statement, Caylee's last night @ Glenwood Apt was 6/9.
*Per Kristine's statement, Caylee played @ Lake Underhill 6/12 or 6/13 6-8:30PM
*Per Clint's statement, Caylee was @ Tony's Apt on the afternoon of 6/13.
*Per multiple statements, Caylee NEVER spent the night @ Tony's Apt.

FIRST:

I propose that there MAYBE an error in the affidavit narrative (see below)

From original affidavit narrative:

It was he [Tony] that contacted Amy H. and had her call me regarding this case. Anthony said while the defendant lived with her* since June 9th, she [Casey] mentioned several times that Caylee was with the “nanny” at Disney, Universal Studios or the beach. She never gave him any indication the child was endangered or missing.

*[speculation that this is an error and should read, “him” (i.e. “lived with Tony since June 9th”.]:waitasec:​

SECOND:

IF you buy that Casey moved into Tony's 6/9...THEN Casey came up with her new, secret location to stow Caylee for the nights 6/10-6/14 (apparently w/o noticeably harming her) OR someone (e.g. George & Cindy) isn't being truthful about knowledge of Caylee's overnight whereabouts.

Could there be evidence (e.g. photo's, video, sightings, receipts, apartment/rental house viewings, etc.) during the period of 6/10-6/14 that is being overlooked due to focus on post-6/15 that could yield important leads to where Caylee might have been that may still hold evidence?!?!:detective:​

OK. OK.

Some of you are getting it. Still see folks straying though. PLEASE RE-READ THIS ORIGINAL POST CAREFULLY.
IMHO, THE TIMELINE IS MUCH SIMPLER THAN IT APPEARED BEFORE BECAUSE OF A SIMPLE ERROR.

Please don't worry about counting 31 days, or, why 6/9 vs. 6/15. Just humor me and wrap your noggin' around the post above.

 

[unsaid]

It would make sense that Caylee was at the GP's house sleeping all those nights because wasn't the fight about money and caring for Caylee that occured on June 15th? or was it just about money? It would make sense if she was taking off to sleep at her new bf's place, and leaving Caylee with her parents, maybe they wanted her to take some responsibility for her daughter.

I thought that too. I just wonder why it hasn't been cleared up. So was everything fine until the 15th? Casey and Caylee stayed at home until then and the GPs watched Caylee at night while Casey was out?

 

[BondJamesBond]

To Troy on Facebook
Casey Anthony (Orlando, FL) wrote
at 2:40pm on June 24th, 2008
she still has yet to move into the house. hell, in the past 9 days, i haven't even been living at the house. DRAMMMMMA. i'll fill ya in later on.
miss ya, yo.

This puts her last date living in the Anthony home again to June 15th.

I'd say it was the last date "she visited" vs. "living in". Based on multple statements, Casey was ramping up her overnight stays @ Tony's in early June, and I'm fixing her being moved into Tony's on 6/9.

 

[shotzie]

I just found this under Documents What did Casey have to talk to her father 67 minutes or is this a clerical error?

The Casey Anthony Released Cellphone Timeline

Casey's cellphone calls on June 16th, 2008

3:03pm - George Anthony's Cell (67 min to the next call) *Casey's father
4:10pm - Cindy Anthony's Work (1 minutes to the next call) *Casey's mother
4:11pm - Cindy Anthony's Cell (2 minutes to the next call) *Casey's mother
4:13pm - Cindy Anthony's Cell (1 minutes to the next call) *Casey's mother
4:14pm - Cindy Anthony's Work (5 minutes to the next call) *Casey's mother
4:19pm - Anthony Lazzaro (2 minutes to the next call) *Casey's Boyfriend
4:21pm - Jesse Grund (3 minutes to the next call) *Casey's ex-Boyfriend
4:24pm - Cindy Anthony's Cell (8 minutes to the next call) *Casey's mother
6:32pm - The Anthony Home (1 minute to the next call) *Casey's mother and father's house
6:33pm - Voicemail (33 minutes to the next call) *
7:06pm - The Anthony Home (14 minutes to the next call) *Casey's mother and father's house
7:20pm - Amy Huizenga (? anymore calls after that) *Casey's close friend at the time

June 17th's Tuesday's records were not revealed

 

[StickPoint]

Question - cause I'm getting confused I think...

Did Caylee go on said vacation or not?
If not, I think it's probably easy to determine that she slept at home w/ CA and GA in the house.
If she did - then that's the big key right? Who? Someone trusted. There obviously is some babysitter somewhere in this story - a REAL baby sitter. WHO? KOM? LA? LA GF?

Am I off base to your digging?

 

[liltigress]

Cindy jogged around the fact that it wasn't uncommon for Casey to take off for a few days at a time. At the point of Casey staying somewhere at night, leaving Caylee with Cindy and George, they both considered Casey still living with them.


ETA: Leaving Caylee with someone other than Cindy and George.

 

[unsaid]

Question - cause I'm getting confused I think...

Did Caylee go on said vacation or not?
If not, I think it's probably easy to determine that she slept at home w/ CA and GA in the house.
If she did - then that's the big key right? Who? Someone trusted. There obviously is some babysitter somewhere in this story - a REAL baby sitter. WHO? KOM? LA? LA GF?

Am I off base to your digging?

No I think that's right. If she wasn't with the GPs from 6/10-6/14...where was she? Was Casey at home up until Father's Day and the fight?

 

[Joyce]

It would make sense that Caylee was at the GP's house sleeping all those nights because wasn't the fight about money and caring for Caylee that occured on June 15th? or was it just about money? It would make sense if she was taking off to sleep at her new bf's place, and leaving Caylee with her parents, maybe they wanted her to take some responsibility for her daughter.

You know you may be right maybe Casey did move with tone on the 9th and was leaving Caylee with her parents at night and going there and taking care of her during the day Maybe that was some of the fight that she was staying out every nightI dont think in any interviews ive heard Cindy say anything about Caylee staying there without Casey But then also when Ca was going to talk to a Therapist maybe she was complaining about taking care of Caylee while Casey ran the rodes and thats why she told her kick her out and get Caylee taken from her

 

[BondJamesBond]

No I think that's right. If she wasn't with the GPs from 6/10-6/14...where was she? Was Casey at home up until Father's Day and the fight?

Precisely! Exactly! On THE spot!

 

[suzet]

I'm sorry if I am way off on this but I always thought that Caylee primarily stayed w/ the grandparents and would only occasionally stay w/ her mom elsewhere. I had the impression that Caylee was still w/ the Anthony's prior to 6/15.

I totally agree. Everything I have absorbed until this point gave me the impression Caylee was with Cindy and George almost every night all night until June 15. I thought, since Cindy was the breadwinner, she more or less used Casey as a babysitter for Caylee during the daytime. When Casey took Caylee away and kept her with her all night starting on the 15th (?), that changed everything. Once they had the fight on Father's Day, Casey was going to "show them" by taking Caylee all night instead of leaving her with Cindy. Maybe I need to be clunked on the head to see what I'm missing here, lol.

 

[liltigress]

So from June 9th Casey was taking Caylee somewhere during the night while she was shacked up at Tony's all the while George and Cindy assumed they still lived at their house and was only going out at night? Hence Cindy saying that it wasn't uncommon for Casey to take off for several days at a time.

 

[buster1234]

Actually, Cindy only corrected herself under duress. It was LE who determined that the video of Caylee reading at the assisted living facility was taken on June 15th, not June 8th as was originally asserted. It was LE that made the correction. The Anthonys were off by one week, but for some reason, all used that June 9th date initially.

If you look at a June calendar............June 8th and 15th were both on a Sunday, with June 9th and 16th being on a Monday. They had their weeks mixed up, but for all of them to initially say June 9th was the last day they saw Caylee is significant. They all said June 9th until corrected by LE, so this date of June 9th must be important.

My guess is this, June 9th, is the date Casey moved in with Tony. I suspect that George and Cindy were not happy with this arrangement.

Since we know from what's been stated by Tony's roommates, Clint and Nate, Caylee never spent the night at Tony's apartment. So Casey was doing something with Caylee at that point.......either leaving her with someone for the night, or drugging her.

I think whatever happened was preceeded by a major argument between Casey and her parents on July 15th (neighbor heard yelling and cursing).

Cindy's police statement actually says the last time she saw her granddaughter was June 8.

 

[liltigress]

This was also during the same week of the mini vacation she supposedly took. That would account for why her parents didn't consider her moved out at that point.

So where was Caylee? Why tell C and G they were with Jeff H and why the sudden urge to want to contact Jeff H's parents?

 

[liltigress]

Cindy's police statement actually says the last time she saw her granddaughter was June 8.

Yeah CLICK! That's when Casey left home with Caylee. Casey produced Caylee on June 15th for Father's Day then whisked her off again. Damn.

ETA: I just realized that sounded sarcastic. It wasn't at all meant that way. This was my blond moment where a light bulb went off.

 

[magic-cat]

Cindy's MySpace post about it says She left without warning and took Caylee...

SO I think it was after the fighting had reached its crescendo that she made her I WILL SHOW YOU WHO CAYLEE BELONGS TO stand, and out the door she went with her with no word of warning to anyone...

 

[suzet]

Ok, even though I believe Caylee slept at Cindy's every night until June 15th, if I was to wonder about a possible all night babysitter between June 10-14, how about Lee's girlfriend? Mallory? Monique? Hasn't she remained totally out of the limelight since Casey's first jail stint? I could see her and Lee babysitting Caylee while Casey slept at TonEs.

 

[Carrington]

What about Cindy's mother. The money was stolen from her checking account.
Casey had to have been to her home to access the checks.
We have heard nothing from her....Casey might have kept Caylee there.
Cindy and Caylee had dinner at her house Father's Day, at that time Cindy found out about the stolen checks, right? Maybe she found out more than she is saying.
IMO